Would Itachi have defended Konoha from Pain if he were still alive?

[GracefulSerenity]

I think he would but in a kind of incognito way. I mean, he'd be going up against the leader of the same organization he's in and saving the same village that labeled him as a traitor. He wouldn't reveal his identity like that.

 

[Dubbuoo]

since itachi was alive the other akatsuki members dared not touch konoha...

 

[Zato]

Itachi knew as much as a regular member of the akatsuki at the time Pain invasion, he only found out a little more when he was with Nagato as an edo. Pain was the actual leader, Tobi took over after his death although he had a lot of influence. Where did Pain call Tobi Master? I can't remember anything like that.

Nagato was following Tobi's orders the entire time. This is why after Itachi died, Tobi clearly states to Zetsu that they can now attack Konoha. Tobi knew that Itachi was sick and that Itachi was planning on fighting Sasuke in a staged fight. This is why after Nagato died, Tobi asked Konan why she and Nagato betrayed him. That right there tells you that he was indeed the true leader. I'll look for the page where he calls Tobi "master". Also Nagato asked Itachi if he knew the truth about Akatsuki and Itachi replied that he thought he knew more then Nagato but said that they both ended up being used by Tobi. Which means he knew that Tobi was the true leader the entire time(which is obvious).

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[Midday]

Nagato was following Tobi's orders the entire time. This is why after Itachi died, Tobi clearly states to Zetsu that they can now attack Konoha. Tobi knew that Itachi was sick and that Itachi was planning on fighting Sasuke in a staged fight. This is why after Nagato died, Tobi asked Konan why she and Nagato betrayed him. That right there tells you that he was indeed the true leader. I'll look for the page where he calls Tobi "master". Also Nagato asked Itachi if he knew the truth about Akatsuki and Itachi replied that he thought he knew more then Nagato but said that they both ended up being used by Tobi. Which means he knew that Tobi was the true leader the entire time(which is obvious).

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Leader is a position which Pain held, Tobi had a lot of influence there's a difference. Still what's suggesting Itachi knew all of Nagato's abilities and his real body, there's not much suggesting he did. He's only shown as much info as a regular member like Kisame, although Kisame became more in the loop when Tobi revealed his identity to him.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

- Itachi only found Kabuto because he was an Edo and could sense Kabuto through Edo Tensei; the page has been posted in this thread.
- Could you link me the page which shows Itachi knew about Nagato's secret?
- Itachi would not, in anyway, be able to sense where Nagato's body lies.
- You fail, hard. The only Uchiha who can defeat Pain is Madara, though Sasuke should be able to when the true power of his EMS is shown. Itachi stands no chance. This is backed up by the line which stated Pain was the strongest in Akatsuki (which was also outside character bias) and pre-school understanding of the manga.

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he refers to him as pain so if he knew nothing its only logical he would think yahiko was pain this page was a hint itachi is very insightful and was spying on the akatsuki

ama can't be absorded one down
speed and basic fighting skill easily over powers king of hell
ama makes summons pointless 3 down
the machine is EASILY wiped out by partial sus'
gen + nin human is done
don't see no version of almighty push really phasing sus considering hella people survived the strongest blow we already seen how easy that bullshit moon is countered

last time checked the true leader aka tobi was the strongest in the group
last time i checked kabuto paired them as his strongest other than madara

 

[Zato]

Leader is a position which Pain held, Tobi had a lot of influence there's a difference. Still what's suggesting Itachi knew all of Nagato's abilities and his real body, there's not much suggesting he did. He's only shown as much info as a regular member like Kisame, although Kisame became more in the loop when Tobi revealed his identity to him.

Dude, lets put it in simple terms then. Akatsuki seen Pain as their Leader. The only people that knew Tobi played a much bigger role were Itachi,Konan and Nagato at that time. If Tobi is leading Pain and Pain is taking those orders to lead the Akatsuki then who is the real leader? Read the side note on that page you posted on that post you made before your last one. The fact that Tobi asked Konan why Nagato and her BETRAYED him. Tells you who the real leader was. He even asked her why she still wore the Akatsuki cloak after betraying him. He gave Pain orders and those orders Pain gave out to the rest of the Akatsuki. Itachi on the other hand knew more about Akatsuki then the average Akatsuki member knew. He admitted this to Nagato himself. We only knew for a fact that Itachi knew that Tobi was "Madara" and was the real leader of Akatsuki.

 

[soulreaper11]

yes he would and these two things would of happen
1.itachi warned the village ahead of time so they are perpared for battle and him just playing the mysterous hero who saved the village and play the game of chess were he just dont get involve but set everything up to happen for a good or the best outcome.
2.itachi gets physically involve and everyone finds out about what really happen to the uchiha clan he helps to fight pain maybe he would die or maybe he would live but in the end itachi would want the people who say him fighting pain to keep their mouth shut and say he was on pain side.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

He would of died by helping Naruto.

 

[meatsworth1]

i think we would defend the village and he would make a huge differance in the fight but he was the only reason the village was not attacked thats what tobi said when itachi died he said the leaf was no longer off limits meaning the were going to attack so yes he would pose a huge problem for pain

 

[OnPoint]

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he refers to him as pain so if he knew nothing its only logical he would think yahiko was pain this page was a hint itachi is very insightful and was spying on the akatsuki

ama can't be absorded one down
speed and basic fighting skill easily over powers king of hell
ama makes summons pointless 3 down
the machine is EASILY wiped out by partial sus'
gen + nin human is done
don't see no version of almighty push really phasing sus considering hella people survived the strongest blow we already seen how easy that bullshit moon is countered

last time checked the true leader aka tobi was the strongest in the group
last time i checked kabuto paired them as his strongest other than madara

- Amaterasu is ninjutsu, no? Point answered. And there's no point in bringing up what went down in the battle with Naruto & Bee since Nagato was not under the impression that Edos could attack other Edos (As we saw when the 2nd Mizukage was unable to attack Muu etc). Itachi caught him off guard after putting himself under the effects of Kotomatsukami.

- Naraka Path generally stays away from combat situations as it's job is to revive any Paths with are destroyed.

- Itachi would exhaust all his chakra on the 8 summons + Gedo Mazo + Konan alone. Also find it extremely far-feteched that Gedo Mazo will simply defeated by a simple Amaterasu. This thing is almost the size of a mountain.

- What Genjutsu? Tsukuyomi? Good luck trying to tortue a dead body. Tsukuyomi is useless, and i'd love to see Itachi continue to use ninjutsu after, as you say, he destroys all of the summons.

My turn.

- Chibaku Tensei ends this.
- Banshou Tenin pulls Itachi out of Susanoo, Human Path ends this.
- Preta Path absorbs Susanoo.
- Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu, Preta Path > Amaterasu
- Tsukuyomi cannot harm dead bodies
- Chou Shinra Tensei ends this.
- Gedo Mazo ends this.
- Nagato's summons alone would force Itachi to exhaust his chakra supply(Cerberus, Chameleon etc).
- Preta Path fodderizes his ninjutsu.
- Preta Path can absorb Itachi's chakra reserves directly if Nagato touches him; no ninjutsu whatsoever for the Uchiha boy if this occurs.
- Stamina, Nagato stomps.
- All 6 Paths at once, Itachi is outnumbered.

 

[gameove]

do you realize if team guy was there and if danzo helped and with itachi they would fodderize pain, he was just lucky because kakashi was the strongest ninja that fought him

tobi said that he waited until itachi died to attack on konoha that means sthg

and about chou shinra tensei (tsunade and other ANBU survived it its only used to destroy buildings not to kill anybody

u dont nnedd itachi . if u just danzo n his men .that would be it

 

[cookiemonster455]

Yes, and he may do it by using KA on Nagato.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Yes, and he may do it by using KA on Nagato.

If he would of not given the crow to Naruto. Yeah, he can KA.

 

[sage1999]

NO CAUSE sasuke is more important

 

[sunnex]

Itachi present wouldn't make any different. If he decide to support the konoha, he will join them in hell lol.. Pain is the boss

 

[HiddenWarrior]

The example you used from the manga shows that akatsuki wouldn't attack konoha while Itachi was around.

But in the scenario I think he would defend konoha because of his sense of duty and before his death he already started to suspect Sasuke to be a lost cause; hence his talk with Naruto shortly before his death. Without konoha, there's no redeeming the Uchiha name anyway.

Naruto & Itachi vs Pain .. Narachi by way of knockout

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

- Amaterasu is ninjutsu, no? Point answered. And there's no point in bringing up what went down in the battle with Naruto & Bee since Nagato was not under the impression that Edos could attack other Edos (As we saw when the 2nd Mizukage was unable to attack Muu etc). Itachi caught him off guard after putting himself under the effects of Kotomatsukami.

- Naraka Path generally stays away from combat situations as it's job is to revive any Paths with are destroyed.

- Itachi would exhaust all his chakra on the 8 summons + Gedo Mazo + Konan alone. Also find it extremely far-feteched that Gedo Mazo will simply defeated by a simple Amaterasu. This thing is almost the size of a mountain.

- What Genjutsu? Tsukuyomi? Good luck trying to tortue a dead body. Tsukuyomi is useless, and i'd love to see Itachi continue to use ninjutsu after, as you say, he destroys all of the summons.

My turn.

- Chibaku Tensei ends this.
- Banshou Tenin pulls Itachi out of Susanoo, Human Path ends this.
- Preta Path absorbs Susanoo.
- Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu, Preta Path > Amaterasu
- Tsukuyomi cannot harm dead bodies
- Chou Shinra Tensei ends this.
- Gedo Mazo ends this.
- Nagato's summons alone would force Itachi to exhaust his chakra supply(Cerberus, Chameleon etc).
- Preta Path fodderizes his ninjutsu.
- Preta Path can absorb Itachi's chakra reserves directly if Nagato touches him; no ninjutsu whatsoever for the Uchiha boy if this occurs.
- Stamina, Nagato stomps.
- All 6 Paths at once, Itachi is outnumbered.

What do those things you stated do to "a shield that can turn back any attack"? kishi made to many mistakes with giving itachi power... a sword to seal which has no physical presence a shield to reflect anything and a powerful genjutsu that can only be prevented by being an uchiha...

 

[Expulso]

Of course he would. He would easily beat Pain.

 

[OnPoint]

What do those things you stated do to "a shield that can turn back any attack"? kishi made to many mistakes with giving itachi power... a sword to seal which has no physical presence a shield to reflect anything and a powerful genjutsu that can only be prevented by being an uchiha...

Oh, you want to talk about the hyperbole mirror? I could disgrace you right now but I will give you a choice of ignoring this message and moving on my friend.

 

[Oldspiceman]

I believe itachi would have died in that battle. He obviously is a genius when it comes to combat so he would have figured out, if he hadnt already, pain's secret and he would have caused all of the paths to converge on him which would lead the rest of konoha to nagato.