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@Bold, did you even pay attention to Itachi's stories or just wank him without any base bro?


- Itachi was influenced over and over by Shisui, he looked up to him. Shisui told him what to do and etc = Manga fact

- Itachi got influenced into killing the Uchiha because of Danzo's purposals and etc, and the government making them out to be some sort of criminals = Manga fact


Wisdom = When did Itachi tell the Government why the uchiha were rebelling? When did Itachi tell them the struggle of the Uchiha? He didn't.... he followed orders like a good little shinobi, that many before him have done so

^^^^^^^^^ ALL THAT = MANGA FACT.

So don't talk about manga fact without looking at the entire thing. Itachi had the wisdom of hokage at age 7? Cool..... Hashirama was thinking about the world and how to stop a war around that age..

Was Itachi thinking about how to deal with Danzo's corruption? Was he planning on reforming the government ? No.... he killed Konoha citizens because a geezer wanted him to.

And what the hell Shisui has to do with Itachi's capacity of being Hokage again? Shisui just trusted his eye to Itachi protect the village, both had the "Will of Fire", but it doesn't mean that Itachi was relying on him. There's a big difference between relying yourself on a person and carry on his ideals. Itachi had to choose his way to protect Konoha by his own, he didn't follow Shisui's instructions or something like that, he just was carrying on Shisui's and his own will of protecting Konoha.

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And Itachi followed Danzo also because he was a pacifist and he wanted to protect Konoha above all. He chose the less worst option, because if the Uchihas had succeeded with their revolution, Konoha would fall into a civil war and be destroyed from inside, so others nations would take advantage and the Uchihas would die as well. I think you missed Obito telling the truth about Uchiha massacre to Sasuke, he clearly talks about that if you missed this point.

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It seems that you are the one who missed Itachi's entire thing.

And what Hashirama has to do with that? Yeah Hashirama was great, but your comparison has nothing to do with Itachi being a better Hokage than Obito and Kakashi.
 
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The conflict has already occured when uchiha became police. They will still looking opportunity to strike konoha and take over the póst for hokage.
Things had been quite for sometime. Obito's attack reignited the conflict
 

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Yeah and so did Itachi as captain of ANBU at age of 13 but Obito gets it becoz Hokage's seat is his father's property as he is Minato's student



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yea he was strong. But so what? Kakashi graduated at the age of 5, became a chunin at the age of 6. Is your strength what makes you a hokage?

Obito was a late bloomer like Naruto.
 

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Things had been quite for sometime. Obito's attack reignited the conflict

The conflict will still burst out when the limit is broken. They cant stand being treated like outsider.
 

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I think you won the dumbest member of the year award.

People provide you scans of the Hokage not one but two praising Itachi and you completley ignore them.

OT: Minato would still be Hokage,

-kakashi would be jounin level but not hokage level since he would not be Kakashi of the sharingan
-obito was fodder until he awakened sharingan so he would be slightly better than Kakashi -> he was never praised to be a genius
-Rin would be a medic
-Gai would be the same
-Naruto would learn SM, rasengan, sealing techs, and ftg so he would be the 6th
-Sasuke would probably get 3t and learn everything from Itachi + chidori aka hebi sasuke

The only person who had the wisdom and strength is Itachi, so yes he would be the fifth
Considering the crap you itachi fapboys be typing in this forum.. nah i'm pretty sure yall got that award booked.


Yea and when did i deny that Itachi wasn't good? never... did i deny it? no. So why are you complaining about the scans? But unlike yall I actually bothered to pay attention to the context of the conversation and the way they were meant.

Itachi had hokage wisdom at age 7 according to hiruzen why? Did you look at the why? No, of course you didn't.. because you blindly started praising that scan to be some sort of a doctrine that confirmed Itachi's superiority..
 

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The conflict will still burst out when the limit is broken. They cant stand being treated like outsider.
Things had been stable for a long time. No foreseeable instability was there
 

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And what the hell Shisui has to do with Itachi's capacity of being Hokage again? Shisui just trusted his eye to Itachi protect the village, both had the "Will of Fire", but it doesn't mean that Itachi was relying on him. There's a big difference between relying yourself on a person and carry on his ideals. Itachi had to choose his way to protect Konoha by his own, he didn't follow Shisui's instructions or something like that, he just was carrying on Shisui's and his own will of protecting Konoha.

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And Itachi followed Danzo also because he was a pacifist and he wanted to protect Konoha above all. He chose the less worst option, because if the Uchihas had succeeded with their revolution, Konoha would fall into a civil war and be destroyed from inside, so others nations would take advantage and the Uchihas would die as well. I think you missed Obito telling the truth about Uchiha massacre to Sasuke, he clearly talks about that if you missed this point.

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It seems that you are the one who missed Itachi's entire thing.

And what Hashirama has to do with that? Yeah Hashirama was great, but your comparison has nothing to do with Itachi being a better Hokage than Obito and Kakashi.
Even the uchiha who Itachi killed had the "Will of fire".. so your point is? I never said shisui affected the capacity for Itachi to be wise.. I simply told you Itachi getting the wisdom compliment isn't something big , like you make it out to be.. Itachi never carried on Shisui's ideals, so what are you talking about? You implied Itachi was some sort of a wisdome sage at the age of 7.. and I said no he wasn't and showed you him relying on other people and following orders..


No you gave me a scan, that showed Itachi telling Uchiha were doing a revolution, and geezers going mad because they were about to be kicked out of office after 30+ years. So where is the part where he told them of the struggles? Nowhere.. right?


Pacifists only fight for self-defense, they don't go kill innocent people and kids, for corrupt geezers, because it would prevent an imaginary war that 1 person predicted would happen. That pacifist bullshit is dumb as hell, he was a f*cking anbu captain. Itachi wasn't the only ninja who desired peace buddy. Also, slaughtering the strongest clan in the village doesn't help much if others were to attack the village.



My comparison had to do with you and others wanking on the dumb "had the wisdom of a hokage at age 7, and thus hes better than others".... showing you how many people before and after him thought about superior things.


THeir thought process and how far he thought compared to others:

Itachi: Konoha

Hashirama: the world

Naruto: the world

Obito: the world

Madara: the world

Sasuke: the world

If you want to make an argument of Itachi becoming a Hokage.. .stop relying on the same old shitty post you people have been posting for ages, without even understanding it.
 
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And yet Kakashi became Hokage

After 3rd died, standards fell due to desperation and empty spot. Tsunade was not considered even when in her prime. That is because Hiruzen was competent at that time. Once he died standards fell. That is where Kakshi and Tsunade came in.

Off topic:- Happy that nobody has suggested Sakura as of yet. Free from troll s
 

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nope. it has to be minatos student. so rin would be :)
 

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Hokage standard. There is a reason why the 3rd chose nobody after 4th. Nobody was good enough.

I think he cant get contact with tsunade, and jiraiya is on mission or missing is yet to know. Orochimaru is out of question. But then he has to deal with danzo, and no one can stand against him (politic, experience) so he has to deal with it alone.
 

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Why is Obito a contender? :leaf: Without Madara saving him he is mush under a rock. Lol
 

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I think most opinions are converging here and pointing that Minato would have waited Indra/Ashura trans migrants to bloom. Till then he could have been Hokage himself
 

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Could have been? Easily. Hiruzen, a Hokage himself already confirmed that he had long since possessed the wisdom and intelligence to be Hokage. Since he was seven years old. By the time he was was an adult his wisdom and intelligence had only grown. This is made evident by the many shinobi who praised Itachi's intelligence among other things, as well as the statements Itachi himself would later go on to make. This being the most famous one.

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He would have had more than enough skill to become a Hokage as well. With just 3T he makes top tier shinobi look like a Genin. His skill with Genjutsu, and base Shunshin speed decides most battles before the opponent even knows it has started. Then there's still Kenjutsu, Shurikenjutsu's, Katons, and Suiton. He definitely has the power.

Depending on what you believe his illness to be, there's a chance that would not be a a factor in this situation. For example, I'm of the opinion that the illness comes with usage of the Mangekyou, so it is not a problem here. He wouldn't have obtained MS in this case after all, and therefore been healthy. Then of course, there's the fact that he was able to take care of himself well enough to survive so long with such a detrimental illness. With that in mind, Konoha doctors could likely even have cured him.

If his only competition would be Obito and Kakashi, then there is no competition at all. We can ignore Obito completely right away, the manga has already proven him to be nothing more than a subpar ninja without Hashirama's DNA, Madara's personal training, and MS. None of which he would have possessed in this scenario.

Kakashi has already made clear that he had no desire to be Hokage whatsoever. If we as assumed he did however, Itachi would likely have been selected over him. The Uchiha were considered to be powerful and elite. Itachi was elite even among the Uchiha. With the clan and Konoha still in good standing with each other, it's a fair assumption that Itachi would have been a rather popular candidate. His record is more impressive than Kakashi's despite Kakashi's own above average history.​
 
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