Would any uchiha be able to keep up with Bees' swordplay?

[Gold Lightning]

If you try and attack Bee's swords style head on or counter it with your own sword/kunai/kenjutsu then you will get wrecked. Sasuke, being the arrogant brat he is, thought he could take him head on.

Itachi being the smarter, wiser and more skilled brother new he had no choice but to dodge and evade, otherwise he would have got cut.

When it comes to Swordsmanship, Killer Bee is unbeatable.

 

[slimreaper]

^ Jinchurikis are a closely guarded secrets. So no. No one outside the village would know the extent of their abilities. They are called weapons for a reason. In sword play? Because of his injury, yes. As I explained he only got hit because of the distraction, otherwise, despite being severely wounded, he was keeping up with bee just fine.

thats basically what i said

 

[Owarij]

Judging by the scan I'd say Itachi wouldn't of been able to continue keeping up with Bee without using a justu/genjustu. Bee has one of the best sword play in the entire NV.

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I truly believed that had Itachi not backed off and continued to parry Bee it would of ended like this.

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The panel after that Sasuke immediately resorted to using a raiton justu to coat his sword.

Not taking into considering the vast difference between Sasuke and Itachi's reflexes, and that Itachi didn't have a proper weapon to engage in a kenjusu battle like that?

 

[To Whatever]

^ Jinchurikis are a closely guarded secrets. So no. No one outside the village would know the extent of their abilities. They are called weapons for a reason. In sword play? Because of his injury, yes. As I explained he only got hit because of the distraction, otherwise, despite being severely wounded, he was keeping up with bee just fine.

His injures were refereed to being severe hours or so after Tobi patched him up and told him the truth. What Juugo said to him is what you can only take at face value.

I do find it strange that the wounds Itachi gave him did not heal yet having his chest blown open and stabbed multiple times is irrelevant. Especially since those wounds are more severe and life threatening than anything he received from Itachi.

Just because Jinchurikis are closely guarded secrets doesn't mean Sasuke isn't incapable of using common sense. This is Sasuke we're talking about. He isn't like Naruto, who does trial and error runs with clone feints. I mean he's from the land of lightning. That's like Sasuke fighting a Jinchuriki from the land of sound and assuming he knows absolutely no sound based attacks or justu.

He was hit because he was surprised that a Kumogakure Jinchuriki knew lightning. That's a blow to Sasuke's intelligence.

He did keep up well for someone who wasn't at 100%, but it wouldn't be enough to beat Bee in pure Kenjustu even if was completely healed. EMS sasuke or Madara would be more than capable of countering him.

Not taking into considering the vast difference between Sasuke and Itachi's reflexes, and that Itachi didn't have a proper weapon to engage in a kenjusu battle like that?

I'd say it would be even since Sasuke was injured, and Itachi didn't have a proper weapon. But I did fail to take those into consideration

 

[shelke]

His injures were refereed to being severe hours or so after Tobi patched him up and told him the truth. What Juugo said to him is what you can only take at face value.

I do find it strange that the wounds Itachi gave him did not heal yet having his chest blown open and stabbed multiple times is irrelevant. Especially since those wounds are more severe and life threatening than anything he received from Itachi.

Just because Jinchurikis are closely guarded secrets doesn't mean Sasuke is incapable of using common sense. This is Sasuke we're talking about. He isn't like Naruto, who does trial and error runs with clone feints. I mean he's from the land of lightning. That's like Sasuke fighting a Jinchuriki from the land of sound and assuming he knows absolutely no sound based attacks or justu.

He was hit because he was surprised that a Kumogakure Jinchuriki knew lightning. That's a blow to Sasuke's intelligence.

He did keep up well for someone who wasn't at 100%, but it wouldn't be enough to beat Bee in pure Kenjustu

You mean how Juugo points out that his wounds never healed - severe wounds at that? It's a manga fact. Don't know why you are averting it. Face Value? No it's called coming up with excuses. When the manga puts it that his 'sever wounds never healed' then there is no such thing as a face value logic.

The stab wounds were not lethal at all, as Bee points out. So the only time he truly got hit was when he didn't deliver a finishing blow on Bee, lying comatose at his feet.

That is your interpretation then. Jins are closely guarded secrets. Sasuke and his team did as much research on him as he could. There is no common sense in such scenario. Really? Strong enough Raiton to throw him back? Big difference.

@Qwariji

Vast difference in reaction rate? You must be joking. Lol

 

[To Whatever]

You mean how Juugo points out that his wounds never healed - severe wounds at that? It's a manga fact. Don't know why you are averting it. Face Value? No it's called coming up with excuses. When the manga puts it that his 'sever wounds never healed' then there is no such thing as a face value logic.

The stab wounds were not lethal at all, as Bee points out. So the only time he truly got hit was when he didn't deliver a finishing blow on Bee, lying comatose at his feet.

That is your interpretation then. Jins are closely guarded secrets. Sasuke and his team did as much research on him as he could. There is no common sense in such scenario. Really? Strong enough Raiton to throw him back? Big difference.

@Qwariji

Vast difference in reaction rate? You must be joking. Lol

I wasn't trying to avert it as a Manga fact. It was probably wrong of me to assume that enough time passed to the point where he was still wounded, but it wasn't as severe compared to how he was when Tobi told him the truth.

I know they did as much research as they could but that's something he should at least be aware of.The raiton wasn't enough to throw him back, it was enough to stop him in his tracks. When Bee counters is when he was thrown back.

 

[Owarij]

Vast difference in reaction rate? You must be joking.

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These two scans say 1000 words

 

[Solo]

Excuses excuses, did Itachi even land a single fatal blow on Sasuke during their fight? The only one I remember is amaterasu, which he evaded with substition. Juugo was obviously talking out of his ass.

So Sasuke was bandage up for nothing, huh?

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[Solo]

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These two scans say 1000 words

Pretty sure Sasuke was keeping up Sage Mode Madara who was blitzing people left and right, no?

 

[saw2097]

So Sasuke was bandage up for nothing, huh?

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Karin could have healed him afterward, Sasuke wasn't wearing any bandages when he went after Bee.

 

[TrollingSage]

So Sasuke was bandage up for nothing, huh?

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I said fatal blow didnt I? Whatever injuries Itachi gave him, he received a lot worse from Bee. But guess what? He was fighting the 5 kages a few days after that and didnt seem to be affected by any injuries at all.

 

[shelke]

@Owarji

That was more along the lines of perception. The fact that Sasuke is vastly superior in Kenjutsu and much better in Shurikenjutsu speaks volume in itself.

I wasn't trying to avert it as a Manga fact. It was probably wrong of me to assume that enough time passed to the point where he was still wounded, but it wasn't as severe compared to how he was when Tobi told him the truth.

I know they did as much research as they could but that's something he should at least be aware of.The raiton wasn't enough to throw him back, it was enough to stop him in his tracks. When Bee counters is when he was thrown back.

By throwing him back, I didn't mean blasted him off his feet, I meant it pushed him back. Bee's Raiton is pretty decent, as he threw a pencil at Kisame who said that had he not evaded it, it would have drilled a hole in his scull, when that same Kisame easily survived V2 Bee's attack.
Sasuke cannot possibly know this. Let's not get too one-sided here, just because it's Sasuke.

 

[Owarij]

Pretty sure Sasuke was keeping up Sage Mode Madara who was blitzing people left and right, no?

That just boosts Itachi's reaction feats even more doesn't it

That was more along the lines of perception. The fact that Sasuke is vastly superior in Kenjutsu and much better in Shurikenjutsu speaks volume in itself.

What in the world does perception have to do with that?
The issue there was for the brothers to see the attack, activate susanno and defend... Sasuke failed to do so, Itachi had to activate his and shield sasuke...he noticed and thought about all of that before the attack even struck

 

[Solo]

Karin could have healed him afterward, Sasuke wasn't wearing any bandages when he went after Bee.

I don't write the manga, Man. U_U

I said fatal blow didnt I? Whatever injuries Itachi gave him, he received a lot worse from Bee. But guess what? He was fighting the 5 kages a few days after that and didnt seem to be affected by any injuries at all.

It was explained:

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When he got close to the Leaf, Tobi lead him to the 5 Kage Summit.

 

[TrollingSage]

I don't write the manga, Man. U_U


It was explained:

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He could heal the wounds from Itachi and Bee in a matter of a few days without Karin it seems. Karin is no shape to be healing anyone in that scan. Yet he couldn't heal the little wounds he received from Itachi before he fought Bee, eventhough he had Karin to heal him that time? Yea am calling bs on that.

 

[To Whatever]

@Owarji

That was more along the lines of perception. The fact that Sasuke is vastly superior in Kenjutsu and much better in Shurikenjutsu speaks volume in itself.



By throwing him back, I didn't mean blasted him off his feet, I meant it pushed him back. Bee's Raiton is pretty decent, as he threw a pencil at Kisame who said that had he not evaded it, it would have drilled a hole in his scull, when that same Kisame easily survived V2 Bee's attack.
Sasuke cannot possibly know this. Let's not get too one-sided here, just because it's Sasuke.

I wasn't trying to get one-sided, and I don't dislike Sasuke as a character. I only used that page from 411 to convey what I believed would happen if Itachi continued to parry Killer Bee without a justu/genjustu. Given, that Edo itachi would probably been able to parry Killer Bee longer before being struck and he was countering with a Kunai.

But like I said I didn't consider Itachi using a Kunai and Sasuke not being at 100% when I used that page as reference. I did figure that it would be somewhat equal as both of them were at a disadvantage(only if you were to disregard the fact that Itachi doesn't feel pain in edo and could tank a sword slash) when they fought Bee.

Sasuke's recovery is kind of inconsistent. I don't know why Juugo mentions the wounds he suffered from Itachi in the same battle where his chest is blown open. As if that completely healed but those didn't

 

[shelke]

What in the world does perception have to do with that?
The issue there was for the brothers to see the attack, activate susanno and defend... Sasuke failed to do so, Itachi had to activate his and shield sasuke...he noticed and thought about all of that before the attack even struck

Lol That was perception. Sasuke even evaded Mei's attack, when he had his back turned to her. Come on. Not only that, he was manipulating Twin Fuma Shurikens, using Chidori spear and flying up to cut Deidara's Dragon's wings all at the same time. If these aren't superior reaction rates, then I don't know what is. The fact that Itachi has yet to even show such an advanced manipulation kinda puts a dent in your logic.

Susano'o's activation is faster than a Lightening Strike, so that isn't much. Then we have Kabuto's reluctance to hurt Sasuke, which also was a factor.

 

[shelke]

I wasn't trying to get one-sided, and I don't dislike Sasuke as a character. I only used that page from 411 to convey what I believed would happen if Itachi continued to parry Killer Bee without a justu/genjustu. Given, that Edo itachi would probably been able to parry Killer Bee longer before being struck and he was countering with a Kunai.

But like I said I didn't consider Itachi using a Kunai and Sasuke not being at 100% when I used that page as reference. I did figure that it would be somewhat equal as both of them were at a disadvantage(only if you were to disregard the fact that Itachi doesn't feel pain in edo and could tank a sword slash) when they fought Bee.

My bad then. I must have misread what you were saying.

 

[Solo]

He could heal the wounds from Itachi and Bee in a matter of a few days without Karin it seems. Karin is no shape to be healing anyone in that scan. Yet he couldn't heal the little wounds he received from Itachi before he fought Bee, eventhough he had Karin to heal him that time? Yea am calling bs on that.

Sasuke wasn't heal during his fight with Itachi. Sasuke passed out after his fight with Itachi. Sasuke was heal throughout his fight with Bee. He wasn't that wounded, tbh. At best, he was just tired.

 

[To Whatever]

I just want to know what attack from Itachi Wounded Sasuke so badly. If you re-read the fight it just looks like Sasuke was pushed past his very limits and was just incredibly fatigued.