[Debate] Women shouldn't be allowed in combat

[King Of Crows]

<(-.-<) Ladies and gentlewomen. Please remember to chillax, and calmly respond to someone's post without having the need to be a meany pants. That is all.

 

[Equalist]

I wasn't replying to the discussion you men seem to having. Simply the Op's original thread. I never found anything you guys said offensive, in fact most of the statements were pretty accurate. You must be new around here. I really could care less what you guys were discussing, It does not effect me on an emotional level at all. You do realize the bolded part can go both ways right? Now let me break your flawed side down k?

1.) Woman have fewer hoops to jump through in Military, Colleges and Job markets.

- This in some ways is true, but in many ways It's wrongly misjudged. If anything Woman have to work harder in college if they want to get into men dominated fields. They must do better than most male peers going for whatever degree. Say a woman and man are going for the same Job (Let's say Engineer). Let's say that they graduated with the exact same credits, but the company hires the Male. The female did all that work only to be not chosen. Why? Simple Male industry. Men are hired faster than Woman. Thus we have to work harder to achieve the same thing. Now in some cases you are correct we get what we want...Sorry we have boobs and guys are attracted to that LOL. Is that our fault? I already explained the Military. Let's move on shall we?

2.) Women can murder their husbands and children and still be acquitted.

-You must not know what you are talking about. They are acquitted because of two things. The Lawyers they hire and a jury. See here in America the Jury decides the fate of these Woman. You do realize Men can murder more than one person/woman and get away with it if they have the right lawyer and Jury. Ever heard of that guy who had murder his twins but he was let go because evidence wasn't enough? Being a woman really don't play a role? Is it her fault that the Jury were ****ing idiots and let her go? Have you ever looked close? most of the jurors are men -.-. Now gender don't play as big a role as people make It out be. People take advantage of the system!! Saying Woman get away with it is very sexist. Men get away as well.

3.) Women will almost always receive custody of children even if they are unfit parents.

- Again you are using a sexist fact. The fact they are a woman plays little part. I mean sure they can play that a Woman would be better, but really It's all on the judge in these cases. Have you ever been to one of these trials? I have. My mother was a horrible drug addict as was my father and they fought. My dad had a job at the time so the judge ruled.. Guess who won my Dad, awesome right? No he dumped me and my 3 sisters in an orphanage in Kentucky. My mother? Got clean and was doing great, bought a house and car. Hmm who was better off eh? But I guess woman ALWAYs WIN huh

4.)Single moms are neither encouraged to seek employment nor is it necessary to do so as in most cases fathers are nailed with so much in the way of child support and alimony that they themselves can barely survive.

- Once again a stupid and baseless statement. Most single mothers have to work 2 jobs or more to survive, Unless they married a super rich guy (Woman like that are disgusting). The fact is each state is different. Here you can be in a relationship and if you have a kid and are not married the man has to pay child support. That's not fair at all. BTW the amount is based off their income and how many kids they had. Woman in order to keep getting those payments have to work. My sister recently divorced she has 5 kids, guess how much he pays in total? 500 bucks. He makes 90k a year oh yeah he's suffering all right. As for alimony there is something called a prenup, also maybe if people didn't rush into marriage this shit wouldn't happen so often.

5.)Some women call themselves princesses and walk around with an inflated sense of self worth, believing that they should have a certain quality of living despite the fact that they have done nothing to earn it.

-This made me laugh harder than It should have. Who's fault is that? If they have rich parents and are brought up like that. I have only seen this happen in movies or in extreme cases of super rich men. You seem to take some of your points off of shows like The Real Housewives or those shows that give Woman a bad name. I seriously have no idea where this came from because most normal Woman would never say something so damn stupid. Girls maybe. If they do..man they should be ashamed of themselves lol

6) This is not a discussion about what you find offensive.

-If i do recall I never said I took offense to anything that was said. Is It my fault you took It that way? I don't think so. I simply gave my points and my reasoning behind them, If this came across as I was offended then you are sadly mistaken. Did your statements offend me? Not really, but I felt the need to point out how stupid some of those points where in my opinion. I'm entitled to do that. This has been delightful.

My apologies if I said something to offend you. May I buy a dress for you as a peace offering?

 

[King Of Crows]

My apologies if I said something to offend you. May I buy a dress for you as a peace offering?

I demand a 100 human sacrifices. She demands 100 puppies. :devil::devil: ( Don't sacrifice the puppies )

 

[Joebama]

I gotta say I'm shocked at how sexist some of you are.
Yeah, there are biological differences between the sexes. That's self-evident. Beyond that, though, there's basically nothing!
Like seriously, come on. Everyone should have the same rights. Period.

 

[Revyy]

My apologies if I said something to offend you. May I buy a dress for you as a peace offering?

I don't wear dresses. How about some whiskey?

I demand a 100 human sacrifices. She demands 100 puppies. :devil::devil: ( Don't sacrifice the puppies )

not the puppies. Spiders I demand 10,000 spiders.

 

[King Of Crows]

not the puppies. Spiders I demand 10,000 spiders.

Fudge that Spiders are scary !! :T_T: !!!

 

[Equalist]

Like seriously, come on. Everyone should have the same rights. Period.

That was the point of my argument. Everyone should have the same rights. The harsh reality is that they don't. That's been the main issue since this discussion started. Even Hime's pseudo-feminist rant touched upon that issue. But what you and Hime don't understand is that we're not discussing "your views" we're discussing reality and the things wrong with the world we live in.

Case in point everyone should have equal rights but we don't. Both women and men are screwed by the very same systems under which both sexes live.

 

[Revyy]

Fudge that Spiders are scary !! :T_T: !!!

I know satan's servants , but I want too massacre as may as possible :snick:

 

[King Of Crows]

I know satan's servants , but I want too massacre as may as possible :snick:

Ohhhh, you want to sacrifice them ..... In that case, burn all the spiders !!! !

 

[Revyy]

That was the point of my argument. Everyone should have the same rights. The harsh reality is that they don't. That's been the main issue since this discussion started. Even Hime's pseudo-feminist rant touched upon that issue. But what you and Hime don't understand is that we're not discussing "your views" we're discussing reality and the things wrong with the world we live in.

Case in point everyone should have equal rights but we don't. Both women and men are screwed by the very same systems under which both sexes live.

You remind me of that guy from Avatar. Seems like you're trying to act and think like him.

 

[Equalist]

I was trying to rep you but it seems I'm unable to do that or even quote your post. In essence your readdressing of moral issues is correct. My problem with you at this point however (or rather your ideals) is that despite your rant you say you are fine with the way things are right now. Explain that to me.

I as a man am not happy with the way women are treated. But as a man I am also not happy with the special treatment that women get in the justice system. So as I am ignorant of your point, explain what is fine about the world we live in to you.


EDIT: Ah, that's why I couldn't quote you. You edited your post from an argument that actually showed you possessed the intelligence beyond that of monkey to slam me with some juvenile insult. Negged

 

[King Of Crows]

EDIT: Ah, that's why I couldn't quote you. You edited your post from an argument that actually showed you possessed the intelligence beyond that of monkey to slam me with some juvenile insult. Negged

She compared you to Armon ..... Don't be so sensitive :|

 

[Equalist]

She compared you to Armon ..... Don't be so sensitive :|

She did so in a derisive fashion. Suppose she said you're immovable like Stalin. I would blush and say stop. But suppose she said wow you're an intolerant **** like Stalin. I would say I how dare you. You grasped the denotation of her post, however I understood the connotation therein. There is a distinct difference between what is said and what is intended.

 

[Revyy]

I was trying to rep you but it seems I'm unable to do that or even quote your post. In essence your readdressing of moral issues is correct. My problem with you at this point however (or rather your ideals) is that despite your rant you say you are fine with the way things are right now. Explain that to me.

I as a man am not happy with the way women are treated. But as a man I am also not happy with the special treatment that women get in the justice system. So as I am ignorant of your point, explain what is fine about the world we live in to you.

You really believe that woman get special treatment? That's ridiculous..*** don't play a role. It's what you can prove in court, Look who decideds if these woman/men go free? The Jury. If Woman get special treatment then that falls on the jury, most cases I have seen there are more men on a jury for Woman cases. Good for you, you feel horrible about the way woman are treated but have you done anything about It? My rant is about how both men and woman can have the same thing. Every single point made in this thread about woman can apply to men. This world is terrible, I wonder what you have seen and done to make you so knowing? Have you ever seen war? Combat? Do you know what just happened in Turkey? I'm fine with where Woman are at in society like in America. Other countries? Not so much.

No, I was serious. It's kinda cool...

 

[King Of Crows]

She did so in a derisive fashion. Suppose she said you're immovable like Stalin. I would blush and say stop. But suppose she said wow you're an intolerant **** like Stalin. I would say I how dare you. You grasped the denotation of her post, however I understood the connotation therein. There is a distinct difference between what is said and what is intended.

"You remind me of that guy from Avatar. Seems like you're trying to act and think like him. "

I don't see the big deal. :| Stalin was real. He caused actual chaos and killed actual people. Armon has not.

 

[Equalist]

You really believe that woman get special treatment? That's ridiculous..*** don't play a role. It's what you can prove in court, Look who decideds if these woman/men go free? The Jury. If Woman get special treatment then that falls on the jury, most cases I have seen there are more men on a jury for Woman cases. Good for you, you feel horrible about the way woman are treated but have you done anything about It? My rant is about how both men and woman can have the same thing. Every single point made in this thread about woman can apply to men. This world is terrible, I wonder what you have seen and done to make you so knowing? Have you ever seen war? Combat? Do you know what just happened in Turkey? I'm fine with where Woman are at in society like in America. Other countries? Not so much.

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No, I was serious. It's kinda cool...

*blushes* Oh stop

 

[Revyy]

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*blushes* Oh stop

That ***** is guilty and we all know It!!!!!! Like I said the jury (bunch of idiots) and the defense didn't make a good enough case -.-. I was serious though, The legend of Korra was amazing.

 

[shelke]

I am flabbergasted the level of non-sense that is grossly rampant in this thread. Hand to hand or handling guns; there is no contest. Women cannot perform at optimum level compared to men given the biological differences. Kindly open a few books to understand how guns works. The constant recoil effect from the gun alone would wear a woman out much faster than man given his superior muscle fibers. It's as if no one has seen a single physics book here. My God!

Women shouldn't be allowed in the army in the combat division as they would take up the positions that could be filled up by men. That's that.

 

[King Of Crows]

I am flabbergasted the level of non-sense that is grossly rampant in this thread. Hand to hand or handling guns; there is no contest. Women cannot perform at optimum level compared to men given the biological differences. Kindly open a few books to understand how guns works. The constant recoil effect from the gun alone would wear a woman out much faster than man given his superior muscle fibers. It's as if no one has seen a single physics book here. My God!

Women shouldn't be allowed in the army in the combat division as they would take up the positions that could be filled up by men. That's that.

*Throws a physics book out the window* <(-.-<) Fetch.

 

[Equalist]

I am flabbergasted the level of non-sense that is grossly rampant in this thread. Hand to hand or handling guns; there is no contest. Women cannot perform at optimum level compared to men given the biological differences. Kindly open a few books to understand how guns works. The constant recoil effect from the gun alone would wear a woman out much faster than man given his superior muscle fibers. It's as if no one has seen a single physics book here. My God!

I'm flabbergasted at the level of non-sense that is your post.

Women shouldn't be allowed in the army in the combat division as they would take up the positions that could be filled up by men. That's that.

Women aren't taking up positions that can be filled by men. Know why? Because there aren't any men in those positions. If a man has the rank of anything from infantry to general he has that rank. A woman can't take a spot unless that spot is open. Your ridiculous, borderline retarded argument is just what I'd expect from those slackjawed, bumpkins who complain about immigrants taking their jobs when you're unemployed anyway.

With regards to the army or the marines I don't see you enlisting so obviously no one is taking your spot now are they? For the duration of this discussion I implore you to be silent lest you do more to damage our perception of you than the generations of inbreeding that already has.