Woman Jailed for being Against Homosexuality

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well, since i live in kentucky, allow me to explain this to you.

kim davis is an elected gov official who's job is to issue marriage licenses recognized by the government. as we all know, gov officials are not allowed to:

1. refuse service to anyone
2. refuse to comply with the federal law
3. enforce religious or personal beliefs onto the public

she was taken to court because she was not issuing marriage licenses out. she cited her religious beliefs as the reason for doing so. and the court denied her appeal, saying it was against the law to refuse to uphold the law based on religious beliefs, and gave hr the option to resign if she wanted. she did not. so instead, she conned to get payed by the taxes of ky citizens while not performing her job as a gov official. she was repeatedly brought back to court. she kept refusing to do her job.

she was arrested thursday for contempt of court, NOT for being christian. she got in trouble for attempting to enforce her religious views into the government. that is against the law.

smh at anyone who thinks this is "an attack on christianity". this woman was arrested for contempt of court and the refusal to comply with the law.

and anyone who thinks she has the right to use her religion in a government position is crazy.

Kim Davis was put in jail for not providing a marriage license to a gay couple. When did standing up for your beliefs lead to jail time? The world man, it's just getting worse

Also to quote Senin of Logic, pretty sure when she started the job the institution of marriage legally was between a man and a woman. The law has recently changed. Government officials can be laid from what I read

freedom of religion is in the constitution, but so is the ban from using religion in government. no one is infringing her rights in the slightest.

"they are violating my religious right by not allowing me to enforce my religion onto them and the government!"

...is nonsense.

the government is forbidden by the constitution from having an official religion or religious preference at any point.
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Thank you for explaining. That wasn't really something higlighted in the article. Even still, she did not have to be jailed. She could have been fired or someone else could have done it. We have cops killing innocent people and are getting suspended with pay and they also get our taxes which is why I said our justice system is a joke. This also a stepping stone for Christian to becoming the minority.

Also to quote Senin of Logic, pretty sure when she started the job the institution of marriage legally was between a man and a woman. The law has recently changed. Government officials can be laid from what I read
 
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I was told something else so I looked into it I know now

Thank you for explaining. That wasn't really something higlighted in the article. Even still, she did not have to be jailed. She could have been fired or someone else could have done it. We have cops killing innocent people and are getting suspended with pay and they also get our taxes which is why I said our justice system is a joke. This also a stepping stone for Christian to becoming the minority
well, just goes to show that when you see an article, you must realize there will always be bias clouding the facts.

also consider that since she was an ELECTED official, she can not be fired by anyone. she must either do her job or resign. both of which she refused to do.
 

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well, just goes to show that when you see an article, you must realize there will always be bias clouding the facts.

also consider that since she was an ELECTED official, she can not be fired by anyone. she must either do her job or resign. both of which she refused to do.
I see, I have a clearer understanding then. Looks like, I was wrong in this situation then.
 

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Well yes, she should be jailed. This whole issue in the end of the day simply comes down to this.
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A religious person-christian in this case- is abusing her authority to force her religion onto other people, people already established why she should be made to resign and about her being jailed, how long did she keep the couple hanging? And how much emotional distress did she cause to those two from an already suffering group? I don't support homosexuality but that doesn't give you the right to hurt them like that.

Don't misunderstand, she is an idiot; sure, but by no means innocent.
 
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It has everything to do with this because the cops breaking the law are not jailed. Who did she harm? No one.
It's not just about "harming." Someone who breaks into your house and just steals your TV didn't harm you, but they still receive punishment, don't they? The cop argument makes no sense. You are justifying being outraged at someone being jailed for violating the rights of another by being outraged at someone not being jailed for violating the rights of another. It's hypocritical. If you see cops getting off for their crimes as wrong, then you should say Davis getting off for her crime as wrong.

What I'm saying is that she should not be jailed for following her beliefs. No matter which way you look at it, the growing Christian minority is slowly losing their religious freedom.To answer your comparison, no I'm not stating that. But you have a woman going to jail for belieiving her religion, but a guy who participated in raping kids having his jailed sentence reduced. Our law system is a joke
Except that's not the way it works. Your religious freedom allows you to follow a religion of your choice. But it does not give you the right to impede on the rights and safety of others in the name of your religion. If the law states that gay people have the right to receive marriage licenses, you cannot deprive the of that right in the name of your religion. She was not arrested because she believed homosexuals shouldn't get marriage licenses. She was arrested because the law says that homosexuals cannot be denied marriage licenses and because she refused to carry out her duty as an elected government official. If a cop refused to arrest a rapist because the rapist did so to a homosexual and he doesn't believe in their rights, or a doctor refused to perform a check up on a homosexual patient because of his religious belief, the same thing would happen.

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So God supports homosexuality now? Don't quote scripture if you don't know what your talking about. Times were different in that day and the laws were not like they are today. Another thing pointed out in the verse is "evil" which in biblically definition homosexuality follows under. In that same verse it also says that live as free not using freedom to cover up evil which negates anything you just said
e subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Riker, please don't be ignorant and quote scriptue you don't understand because this is a battle you won't win. So let's just leave scripture out of it.


The only thing I agree with is her quitting she should not have been jailed



And again with have another ignorant person who doesn't understand scripture trying to interpret what they don't know. What sin did she commit? Who is she judging? You talk about understanding people yet she was put in jail for something like this. People steal yet they get off with probabtion, the man that participated with Subway spokesmam in those pedophile rapes and child porno paid his way to prevent jail time, cops are killing blacks for no justifiable reason and are only getting suspended. Please don't come at me with nonsense like I don't know anything

God destroyed a city based off homosexual acts, did you know that?
Funny you talk about ignorance when you were ignorant to the scripture I was talking about. It's this, by the way:
Romans 13, 1-5
1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. 4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. 5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

This scripture declares that God has instated the governing authorities. He said "Do not do wrong" in reference to disobeying said authorities, showing that God views breaking the law of the governing authorities as wrong. By going against the authority that God instated, as he himself said he did, she is going against her religious beliefs.

There are, however, two arguments I've seen against this reasoning, but both backfire. One is that the scripture does not apply to laws that contradict God's standards and declarations. So if a law permits you to murder, or rape, or steal, you can't follow it. If that's the case, then she should not be in this position. If the career requires you to do something that goes against God's law, then you cannot be a part of that career. If that is the case, then it is not her place to deny these people their marriage licenses, but to quit.

The other, as you have said, is that the scripture no longer applies to modern day society. It is outdated, the standard no longer applies, and applied to a society of long ago. That means that a part of God's word, standards that God saw as good, have become obsolete. And even more strongly, they have become wrong because following them now would be wrong, due to them being obsolete. This makes the scriptures and the concept of God as a whole flawed. God is supposed to be a perfect being. Then how can his standards ever become obsolete and outdated; his standards should be perfect. The Bible is supposed to be infallible and indefinite, as it comes from God. Then how can parts of it be obsolete, useless, and not worthy of following in modern day society? If standards can become obsolete, then how do you know that some of the standards you still have haven't become obsolete, but you can't realized because you maintain usage? How do you know it all hasn't become obsolete?

This was not originally the terms of her job. Her job was to provide marriage licences to people under laws that did not contradict her belief. Her choice was a job that didn't contradict her beliefs, but was changed to be something that does not fit her beliefs. You're basically saying "Oh, the terms of her job have been changed on her? Tough, she should be unemployed!"

This needed resolved, as the job is now something that condones gay marriage, but imprisoning her is insane. This is breaching equality, and reaching domination.
No. Her job was to provide marriage licenses to people who the law says are eligible to receive one. That is her position. He religion does not affect how she does her duty, or what her duty is. If she lets her religion influence her duty when it shouldn't, then she is on grounds to be fired. And it just so happens that in this case, the way her religion affected her duty and the fact that she allowed it to affect her duty was illegal.

"You cannot be punished for following your beliefs." There are religions that believe it's right to commit human sacrifices. Pretty sure that's still punishable by law.
 

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This was not originally the terms of her job. Her job was to provide marriage licences to people under laws that did not contradict her belief. Her choice was a job that didn't contradict her beliefs, but was changed to be something that does not fit her beliefs. You're basically saying "Oh, the terms of her job have been changed on her? Tough, she should be unemployed!"

This needed resolved, as the job is now something that condones gay marriage, but imprisoning her is insane. This is breaching equality, and reaching domination.
She could have either resigned or let others issue marriage licenses, yet she refused to do either. Secondly, she was an elected official working in a government office. She was using her position to push her religious beliefs on other people by effectively not issuing licenses, thus breaching the establishment clause of the first amendment.
 

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And yet, others will argue that it is a hate crime against homosexuals. The religious folk are gonna have their freedom stripped from them in due time



So please explain to me the people that steal getting probabtion or the cops getting away with murder
Government and lawyers doing a crappy job :|
 

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So God supports homosexuality now? Don't quote scripture if you don't know what your talking about. Times were different in that day and the laws were not like they are today. Another thing pointed out in the verse is "evil" which in biblically definition homosexuality follows under. In that same verse it also says that live as free not using freedom to cover up evil which negates anything you just said
e subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Riker, please don't be ignorant and quote scriptue you don't understand because this is a battle you won't win. So let's just leave scripture out of it.


The only thing I agree with is her quitting she should not have been jailed



And again with have another ignorant person who doesn't understand scripture trying to interpret what they don't know. What sin did she commit? Who is she judging? You talk about understanding people yet she was put in jail for something like this. People steal yet they get off with probabtion, the man that participated with Subway spokesmam in those pedophile rapes and child porno paid his way to prevent jail time, cops are killing blacks for no justifiable reason and are only getting suspended. Please don't come at me with nonsense like I don't know anything

God destroyed a city based off homosexual acts, did you know that?
The city had way more sins. Fornication is fornication period
 

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You misunderstand what freedom of religion is. Freedom of religion allows you to choose, believe in, and practice the religion of your choice. This does not give you the right to impede on the safety or rights of others in the name of your religion.
This. Especially the bold part.
Who is she to decide if a gay couple has the right to make an official, important bond of love or not? These homophobic retards must be eradicated, any single one of them.
 
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This. Especially the bold part.
Who is she to decide if a gay couple has the right to make an official, important bond of love or not? These homophobic retards must be eradicated, any single one of them.
The best part is, they're all gonna die someday, and the world will keep on spinning.
You know this is the Old Testament, right?
LOL and? He still did it. If God was a douche in the Old Testament, he's a douche now.
Malachi 3:6
"I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.
 

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It's not just the fact she refused to give them to gay couples, she refused to straight couples as well. Religious beliefs should be expressed, but if your going to work in a public setting in such a way as she is, you need to still do your job. It's not the type of job you can just say "I refuse to do this for whatever reason". All is needed is you to sign a piece of paper, and hand it over. There is a lot I do not like, so do I tell people no just because of that? No. In my opinion, get over it, its your job.
 

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Goddamn, there are some stupid ass people on the base. What a waste of your braincells, OP. I stopped bothering replying in-depth to the simpletons on here as it would make no difference in the end. Smh
 
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I was told something else so I looked into it I know now

Thank you for explaining. That wasn't really something higlighted in the article. Even still, she did not have to be jailed. She could have been fired or someone else could have done it. We have cops killing innocent people and are getting suspended with pay and they also get our taxes which is why I said our justice system is a joke. This also a stepping stone for Christian to becoming the minority.

Also to quote Senin of Logic, pretty sure when she started the job the institution of marriage legally was between a man and a woman. The law has recently changed. Government officials can be laid from what I read
That's why you shouldn't get your information from Fox News.
 
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