Wind vs Lightning: Which has stronger cutting properties?

[Sennin of Logic]

Cutting was described as the basic function of wind. It wasn't for lightning. I think that, since wind specializes in cutting that it's better than lightning which seems to enhance and focus through the body (lighning armor, chidori being on an arm) The reason lightning seems to be so good is that we've been seeing no one but fantastic lightning users like 3rd raikage and Sasuke. Kishimoto needs to focus more on wind users.

 

[TrollingSage]

Cutting was described as the basic function of wind. It wasn't for lightning. I think that, since wind specializes in cutting that it's better than lightning which seems to enhance and focus through the body (lighning armor, chidori being on an arm) The reason lightning seems to be so good is that we've been seeing no one but fantastic lightning users like 3rd raikage and Sasuke. Kishimoto needs to focus more on wind users.

This. Lightning isnt supposed to cut. Lightning being given cutting/piercing properties is something only skilled lightning users can do.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Wind cuts lightning, so wind has better cutting abilities.

 

[AlphaScythian]

lightning is better for cutting then wind.
Aside simple chakra blade, lightning adds high particle vibration frequency that improve cutting just as piercing.
A wind blade simply will beat lightning blade due to nature weakness but loses in feats vs everything else.
Oddly sasuke matched danzo's wind blade

 

[Awesome G]

I think wind has better cutting properties..

 

[Retsu]

lightning is better for cutting then wind.
Aside simple chakra blade, lightning adds high particle vibration frequency that improve cutting just as piercing.
A wind blade simply will beat lightning blade due to nature weakness but loses in feats vs everything else.
Oddly sasuke matched danzo's wind blade

not true because naruto's group rasenshuriken sliced thru the juubi's hide which can supposedly tank it's own tbb, and danzo cut thru sasukes susanoo, no lightning user can top those feats.

 

[Draphsin]

Wrong

If Lightning doesn't cut then explain how Sasuke was able to cut one of Killer Bee 8 tentacle with the Chidori Sharp spear?

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You realize that's lightning + shape manipulation, right?

 

[AlphaScythian]

not true because naruto's group rasenshuriken sliced thru the juubi's hide which can supposedly tank it's own tbb, and danzo cut thru sasukes susanoo, no lightning user can top those feats.

Lightning users managed to cut tails and horns of 8-tails. Cut of all chakra arms of small bijus and obliterate lesser form of susanoo.
Danzo made 50cm deep cut in susanoo and that with 3 blades and baku's power added. Sorry tbb has no cutting power and isnt relevant here.
Rasenshuriken wasnt enough to defeat raikage but lightning was...

 

[Honord Sage]

As Kakashi explain to Naruto in the wind training Arc Wind beats Lightning. And makes Fire stronger.

 

[Retsu]

Lightning users managed to cut tails and horns of 8-tails. Cut of all chakra arms of small bijus and obliterate lesser form of susanoo.
Danzo made 50cm deep cut in susanoo and that with 3 blades and baku's power added. Sorry tbb has no cutting power and isnt relevant here.
Rasenshuriken wasnt enough to defeat raikage but lightning was...

not just any lightning, it was his own lightning, which hax hax offensive and defensive capabilities, and the juubi's hide is tough as hell if obito and madara thought it can tank a point blank blast which obliterated a town and the alliance HQ, so obviously anything that gets thru it is extraordinarily powerful, a rasenshuriken made it through and severed a few tails, nothing a lightning style user has done can top that. At all.

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And don't downplay the fact that danzo managed to go thru the most absolute defense in the manga, even if he had the help of a summon that was danzo's feat, and a lightning user has yet to demonstrate that much cutting power

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[AlphaScythian]

not just any lightning, it was his own lightning, which hax hax offensive and defensive capabilities, and the juubi's hide is tough as hell if obito and madara thought it can tank a point blank blast which obliterated a town and the alliance HQ, so obviously anything that gets thru it is extraordinarily powerful, a rasenshuriken made it through and severed a few tails, nothing a lightning style user has done can top that. At all.

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Again explosive damage and cutting damage arent comparable. we clearly see that with juubi. 8-tails 2 survived his own tbb but his tails get cut off by big shurikens even.

And don't downplay the fact that danzo managed to go thru the most absolute defense in the manga, even if he had the help of a summon that was danzo's feat, and a lightning user has yet to demonstrate that much cutting power

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You clearly overplaying this part here. I still see a layer of susanoo left there.

3rd raikage was tested by both wind and lightning and we clearly saw whats stronger.
I dont recall manga to state that wind is overall best for cutting only that it would win vs lightning due to nature weakness

 

[Silverblade]

Wind. Air cuts through anything.....

 

[Retsu]

Again explosive damage and cutting damage arent comparable. we clearly see that with juubi. 8-tails 2 survived his own tbb but his tails get cut off by big shurikens even.
You clearly overplaying this part here. I still see a layer of susanoo left there.

3rd raikage was tested by both wind and lightning and we clearly saw whats stronger.
I dont recall manga to state that wind is overall best for cutting only that it would win vs lightning due to nature weakness

I bet you the rasenshuriken tops out anything another lightning user could have done in that situation, and once again it was his own haxxed lightning that pierced him, obviously chidori or any variant would have done even less damage than the rasenshuriken.

and it's obvious that the juubi's defense>anything we've seen during the manga, and a wind type jutsu cut thru it, it's only common sense that if the juubi can survive a town obliterating tbb, that it has superb all around defense, and isn't susceptible to cutting attacks anymore so than it is to explosive, or any type of damage for that matter.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I bet you the rasenshuriken tops out anything another lightning user could have done in that situation, and once again it was his own haxxed lightning that pierced him, obviously chidori or any variant would have done even less damage than the rasenshuriken.

True nukite is stronger then chidori but it had to deal with haxxed raiton armour aswell, where wind failed.

and it's obvious that the juubi's defense>anything we've seen during the manga, and a wind type jutsu cut thru it, it's only common sense that if the juubi can survive a town obliterating tbb, that it has superb all around defense, and isn't susceptible to cutting attacks anymore so than it is to explosive, or any type of damage for that matter.

Juubi's defense comes mainly from its huge size not from hardness.
Explosive damage was far too trolled in this manga and juubi is simply a huge biju for me and as we've seen a biju survives easily tbb blasts so do susanoos but are very malleable thus easy to cut.

Since only raikage was tested by both, its only fair to draw conclusions from him.

 

[xcoyote]

manga doesnt lie.
Wind>Lighting
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[fastrthnwind]

As many people have said earlier, Wind has a far greater cutting ability that Lighting which has greater piercing ability.

CUT:
Make an opening, incision, or wound in (something) with a sharp-edged tool or object

PIERCE:
to enter or thrust into sharply or painfully

There is a difference between the two words and each element aptly describes its properties quite clearly.

 

[Kakashisquad]

Guy once said kakashis lighting blade cut threw lightning

 

[BlinkST]

not just any lightning, it was his own lightning, which hax hax offensive and defensive capabilities, and the juubi's hide is tough as hell if obito and madara thought it can tank a point blank blast which obliterated a town and the alliance HQ, so obviously anything that gets thru it is extraordinarily powerful, a rasenshuriken made it through and severed a few tails, nothing a lightning style user has done can top that. At all.

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Moot point. Sasuke's Chidori spear cut through the fission beings.

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Wind was never stated to have a cutting advantage over lightning, either. It was simply stated to be a weapon suitable for a certain range of fighting by Asuma.

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[BenjerminGaye]

Wind>Lightening Wind cuts due to increased sharpness hence the nature
Lightning just increases the vibrations/oscillation. of whatever its ran through.

 

[BlinkST]

Wind>Lightening Wind cuts due to increased sharpness hence the nature
Lightning just increases the vibrations/oscillation. of whatever its ran through.

How the weapon achieves sharpness is irrelevant. The question is which weapon is sharper after these methods are applied.