[Discussion] Will Teach and Dragon fight?

[KingHashirama]

That's because he didn't have a bounty. Being a member has NOTHING to do with bounty because Teach was a member of the Worst Generation when he had no bounty. If being a member of the Generation had anything to do with bounty, how would Teach be a part of it with no bounty?

Thats why 11/12 of the worst generation are supernova, a title that you said is from bounties. While Teach being put there, due to him becoming a big powerhouse?


when would he have gotten a bounty?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Thats why 11/12 of the worst generation are supernova, a title that you said is from bounties. While Teach being put there, due to him becoming a big powerhouse?


Because teach never got the chance to get a bounty on him.

Are you ****ing dumb? Teach has zero bounty and is part of the Worst Generation, so how can the group have anything to do with bounty? How does someone with NO BOUNTY make it into a group if the being in the group depends on bounty?

 

[KingHashirama]

Are you ****ing dumb? Teach has zero bounty and is part of the Worst Generation, so how can the group have anything to do with bounty? How does someone with NO BOUNTY make it into a group if the being in the group depends on bounty?

Question is are you ****ing dumb? The dude was a warlord, he couldn't get a bounty after beating Ace. Him being a warlord prevents him from gaining any sort of bounty. He wasn't included in the group, before the Ace incident when he became a Warlord, from what i recall. And then he attacked Marineford, before resigning. And then over the timeskip, he probably did get a bounty. And now hes a god damn Yonko. Are you so ****ing naive, to believe that this dude doesn't have a ****ing bounty on him?


And also, "worst generation" = the 11 supernovas. Blackbeard got put with them, due to the simple fact he rose in power very quick. During the actual introduction of the "worst generation" aka the bloody supernova, blackbeard was not included.

Worst generation = those who rose to power quick = Determined by bounty = Supernova + a dude who is a yonko


All the supernova = Preping for New world, WHILE Blackbeard = already in the new world.

^^^ Yet they are from the same generation right?

So please, don't call me a "dumbass", when you are the one being stubborn.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Question is are you ****ing dumb? The dude was a warlord, he couldn't get a bounty after beating Ace. Him being a warlord prevents him from gaining any sort of bounty. He wasn't included in the group, before the Ace incident when he became a Warlord, from what i recall. And then he attacked Marineford, before resigning. And then over the timeskip, he probably did get a bounty. And now hes a god damn Yonko. Are you so ****ing naive, to believe that this dude doesn't have a ****ing bounty on him?


And also, "worst generation" = the 11 supernovas. Blackbeard got put with them, due to the simple fact he rose in power very quick. During the actual introduction of the "worst generation" aka the bloody supernova, blackbeard was not included.

Worst generation = those who rose to power quick = Determined by bounty = Supernova + a dude who is a yonko


All the supernova = Preping for New world, WHILE Blackbeard = already in the new world.

^^^ Yet they are from the same generation right?

So please, don't call me a "dumbass", when you are the one being stubborn.

If being a member of the Worst Generation relies on bounty, and Teach couldn't get a bounty, then Teach couldn't be a member of the Worst Generation.

If being on honor roll requires straight As, and you don't have straight As, then you can't be on honor roll.

If being able to buy alcohol requires 21 years lived, and you haven't lived for 21 years, then you can't buy alcohol.

Do you see the pattern? If Teach was unable to get a bounty and WG required a bounty, then he would be unable to become a part of the group. Worst Generation=12 people who the most pivotal changes in the world revolved around, which included 11 Supernova. Had nothing to do with bounty or the fact that they were Supernova, it was a coincidence.

Yes they are from the same generation, Teach is literally a member of the Worst Generation with them.

Rising to power has nothing to do with bounty. Doflamingo rose to power with a bounty at 340,000,000, power that Luffy and Law have to reach, both people who have exceeded Doflamingo's bounty.

 

[KingHashirama]

If being a member of the Worst Generation relies on bounty, and Teach couldn't get a bounty, then Teach couldn't be a member of the Worst Generation.

If being on honor roll requires straight As, and you don't have straight As, then you can't be on honor roll.

If being able to buy alcohol requires 21 years lived, and you haven't lived for 21 years, then you can't buy alcohol.

Do you see the pattern? If Teach was unable to get a bounty and WG required a bounty, then he would be unable to become a part of the group. Worst Generation=12 people who the most pivotal changes in the world revolved around, which included 11 Supernova. Had nothing to do with bounty or the fact that they were Supernova, it was a coincidence.

Yes they are from the same generation, Teach is literally a member of the Worst Generation with them.

Rising to power has nothing to do with bounty. Doflamingo rose to power with a bounty at 340,000,000, power that Luffy and Law have to reach, both people who have exceeded Doflamingo's bounty.

Holy shit.

Is Blackbeard part of the generation of pirates that grew strong out of nowhere? Yes.
Is he actually part of their generation (the bloody rookies)? no.

Also, he was added in as part of the "worst generation" title, after the MF events, where he did gain a bounty. So , yea he was added in with a bounty.


Blackbeard wasn't a rookie, he isn't climbing up the ladder to take on the yonko. He was already in New world, when the rookies were still getting ready for it.


So no, he was not part of the same generation, he was added in later to the title of "Worst generation", due to his growth into becoming a Yonko. But, originally he is not part of the actual freaking generation, as he was never a supernova.

Kidd/Luffy/Capone/HAwkins/Law/and etc are all rivals of each other. Blackbeard is one of their aims now, just like Kaidou/Shanks/Big mama are their aims.

 

[loj]

Except they obviously aren't strong enough to change the world now. This same logic can be applied to Blackbeard, one of the 4 strongest pirates in the world.

How can you guys say, "its okay for Blackbeard to lose to Dragon, he will just get stronger." But yet say, "Dragon should not lose because the revs will change the world." Both Blackbeard and the rev army will get stronger, neither one of these parties is strong enough to accomplish their goals yet. So saying one should lose and one should not is being bias because they both aren't yet ready.

Dragon can't do it all alone, he's going to need Luffys help and maybe others, the army will get stronger like this.

Unless u expect a timeskip...when would they change the world then? The story is 70% done.18y manga is ongoing it's time for rev to do something...I mean wtf do u expect? revs doing something after a timeskip or something?

Revolutionary time is coming and there is no way Dragon gonna lose in his first ever real apperance...who knows how strong revs are? Seeing Koala's reaction for Dragon statement I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are stronger than BB crew...

 

[OG sama]

Unless u expect a timeskip...when would they change the world then? The story is 70% done.18y manga is ongoing it's time for rev to do something...I mean wtf do u expect? revs doing something after a timeskip or something?

Revolutionary time is coming and there is no way Dragon gonna lose in his first ever real apperance...who knows how strong revs are? Seeing Koala's reaction for Dragon statement I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are stronger than BB crew...

70% of the manga is left I guess Luffy won't even be admiral level or become the Pirate king. A lot can happen with just 30% of progression, not that I buy that 30% left anyway. None of the Yonko or Admirals are even defeated that's going to take up more than just 30%. The story has 9 more years to go, a lot of things can change between then such as the revos strength.

 

[loj]

70% of the manga is left I guess Luffy won't even be admiral level or become the Pirate king. A lot can happen with just 30% of progression, not that I buy that 30% left anyway. None of the Yonko or Admirals are even defeated that's going to take up more than just 30%. The story has 9 more years to go, a lot of things can change between then such as the revos strength.

Im giving it 5 years at max.

Revs need to start doing something unless u want that to be a last minute call...

 

[OG sama]

Im giving it 5 years at max.

Revs need to start doing something unless u want that to be a last minute call...

I really don't but I don't see them showing their power till the final war.

 

[straightup]

You sound like you have a hard time understanding, this is about my opinion, on who I find badass. And why I want Kidd to be the final villain, I could careless, if you agree or not. Yea, the normal person, does tend to include the look of a person, in determining if they are more badass or not. You think all the people would still like Zoro/Law/Luffy/Kidd if they looked like Teach? no. As their look and the way they dress, along with their attitude is a deciding factor in what people determine to be badass.


Cool, and as I said, Kidd will grow in parallel with Luffy as far as their powers go.
So hes more badass because he has more power? That sounds just like Bandwagoning

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If you think the latter is more badass.. again.. more power to you..To me he is not badass.


He is part of the rookies.. that doesn't = same generation as far as actually being from their generation goes. As he is already a Yonko, while the people from Luffy's generation, are climbing their way up to beat the Yonko. Big difference.


Yea, it was his fault for defending himself, and getting rid of a wanted Pirate, that would be a threat to him. Why are you making excuses for Ace setting his own demise?

The moment Ace chose to attack BB, with the intent to kill/beat him, he set the path for his death. Was BB going after Ace? no.. Did Ace expect BB to show him mercy? Or did you expect BB to show Ace mercy, after defeating him? BB did what was best for him, which was turning Ace in and becoming a Warlord, otherwise he would've just killed Ace himself.

I say since teach is a perfect parallel to the real life pirate king Blackbeard it would only make sense that oda would follow along with that. Oda is big on bringing real life myths and legands to op verse and to have an actual Blackbeard in there should say enough. Besides Kidd has been introduced under kiado so I'm going to assume that Kidd would be like the second in command for the kiado fight. My guess is luffy never actually fights Kidd and zoro wrecks him while luffy tears kiado a new a hole.

 

[ichirou]

BB is a coward he wouldnt dare attack the revolutionaries directly it it is too much to handle for a rising yonkou. He will just be wasting resources and manpower by attacking them. BB wont start a fight if he sees himself not winning. He didnt attack whitebeard till he is almost at his deathbed so i guess if he would attack he would first give this info into the marines to let them destroy the base then bb will finish it off.