Will Sarada awaken a new doujutsu?

[Umari Senju]

I don't know. Hagoromo is the common ancestor of Uchiha and Senju. Homura is the common ancestor of Hyuga and whatever else. That is why Uchiha+Senju=father doujutsu rinnegan (Hagoromo).

I understand your reasoning here but again it really has nothing to do with the clans. Uzumaki are distantly related to Senju just as the Hyuuga are distantly related to the Uchiha, yet Naruto was able to obtain the Rikudo Sage Mode regardless of being only Half Uzumaki who are only partly related to Senju.

It was because of his Ashura chakra. Same applies to Madara and Sasuke or anyone else who has become a transmigrant of the brothers.

The clans have little baring other than initially being one of the 2 to possess a doujutsu. (which is why I chose Neji as an example)

Since both Sharingan and Byakugan originated from Kaguya (who possess all 3 doujutsu) either Hyuga or Uchiha have the potential to awaken the Rinnegan (provided they are an Indra/Ashura incarnate).

The only real prequisite that is needed for the Rinnegan other than the special chakra of the brothers is belonging to either the Hyuga or the Uchiha as you need a doujutsu to begin with to awaken the Rinnegan.

Otherwise for the elite Uchiha, EMS is the pinnacle of their clans doujutsu and no higher.

I think it's because of their lineages, not because of them being former incarnates. If Hashi already died that means he is no longer an incarnate and that Naruto was, so how could his cells still have any traces of Ashura in it aside from him directly descending from Ashura like any other Senju?

Keep in mind Madara implanted Hashirama's DNA into his body after their battle at the valley of the end. Naruto and Sasuke were not born yet and Madara used Izanagi to ressurect himself sometime later. So they were both alive when this grafting of the flesh took place.

after that and many decades later in his elderly state Madara finally awakened the Rinnegan.

But they were both still very much alive when the initial melding of the chakra took place. Go back to the Hagoromo explanation to Naruto. It might help clear it up a bit if you read through it again.

 

[Xaiban]

The only real prequisite that is needed for the Rinnegan other than the special chakra of the brothers is belonging to either the Hyuga or the Uchiha as you need a doujutsu to begin with to awaken the Rinnegan.

That was never confirmed in the manga. Try to keep the debate based on manga facts instead of speculation.

 

[Holy God]

The combination of the Uchiha and Senju does not create the Rinnegan, the power of Ashura and Indra does. Madara had Hashirama's cells injected into him which is what awakened his own. How does that work? Because Madara's body was then soon configured to Hashirama's DNA and they were combined, meaning Madara would generate a combination of their chakra, also known as Hagoromo's. The same happened to Sasuke when Kabuto used Hashirama's cells. His Rinnegan then furthered in advancement by the addition of Hagoromo's extra yin chakra.

As for why any simple Uchiha and Senju cannot create the Rinnegan, well the reason is simple. After one of the brothers creates a child, then the DNA is mixed among that of the mother, meaning the chakra becomes of a different signature and what-not. It's possible to receive the Rinnegan by mixing the two sons of Hagoromo because he created two children, meaning the chances of his genes being near perfectly split increases. While the Uchiha and Senju did come from them, neither of the brothers received the Rinnegan nor passed it on, so it'd be impossible for any descendant combination to awaken it without their specific chakra signatures. I believe it was even told that in the olden days, the Uchiha took advantage of Senju's cells to power their Izanagi. None of them awakened the Rinnegan.

 

[Umari Senju]

That was never confirmed in the manga. Try to keep the debate based on manga facts instead of speculation.

hmm guess you didn't see my edit on this....or I forgot to save it. I typed in theory. But my point still stands if from what Hagoromo stated himself is true (that Rinnegan comes from Ashura/Indra chakra) then my theory is still sound and clan has no real barring on awakening the Rinnegan. But it should be safe to assume you need to belong to a clan that has a doujutsu to begin with to receive the Rinnegan. Since Hyuga and Uchiha are the only Doujutsu clans in the NV......there you have it.

 

[GuySensei]

I understand your reasoning here but again it really has nothing to do with the clans. Uzumaki are distantly related to Senju just as the Hyuuga are distantly related to the Uchiha, yet Naruto was able to obtain the Rikudo Sage Mode regardless of being only Half Uzumaki who are only partly related to Senju.

It was because of his Ashura chakra. Same applies to Madara and Sasuke or anyone else who has become a transmigrant of the brothers.

The clans have little baring other than initially being one of the 2 to possess a doujutsu. (which is why I chose Neji as an example)

Since both Sharingan and Byakugan originated from Kaguya (who possess all 3 doujutsu) either Hyuga or Uchiha have the potential to awaken the Rinnegan (provided they are an Indra/Ashura incarnate).

The only real prequisite that is needed for the Rinnegan other than the special chakra of the brothers is belonging to either the Hyuga or the Uchiha as you need a doujutsu to begin with to awaken the Rinnegan.

Otherwise for the elite Uchiha, EMS is the pinnacle of their clans doujutsu and no higher.



Keep in mind Madara implanted Hashirama's DNA into his body after their battle at the valley of the end. Naruto and Sasuke were not born yet and Madara used Izanagi to ressurect himself sometime later. So they were both alive when this grafting of the flesh took place.

after that and many decades later in his elderly state Madara finally awakened the Rinnegan.

But they were both still very much alive when the initial melding of the chakra took place. Go back to the Hagoromo explanation to Naruto. It might help clear it up a bit if you read through it again.

Yes I understand 100% where all of you are coming from as well and I've heard it before. It's just that I always thought EMS+Senju DNA= rinnegan. I read that chapter and he did say that Madara "mixed Indra's Chakra's with Ashura's chakra to bring out my powers"--- I always took that as meaning Senju DNA+Uchiha ultimate eyes=rinnegan. And I see how this logic could apply to Madara awakening rinne, but definitely not Sasuke. Hashi had been long dead by the time of Sasuke's birth and especially his reanimation where he gave him chakra to defeat Madara--- meaning that he was no longer the incarnate by that time (Naruto was), so that is why I think it is only a matter of being a Senju rather than having special chakra.
Also, Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke his powers, not Indra's and Ashura's from what I understand.

 

[Umari Senju]

Yes I understand 100% where all of you are coming from as well and I've heard it before. It's just that I always thought EMS+Senju DNA= rinnegan. I read that chapter and he did say that Madara "mixed Indra's Chakra's with Ashura's chakra to bring out my powers"--- I always took that as meaning Senju DNA+Uchiha ultimate eyes=rinnegan. And I see how this logic could apply to Madara awakening rinne, but definitely not Sasuke. Hashi had been long dead by the time of Sasuke's birth and especially his reanimation where he gave him chakra to defeat Madara--- meaning that he was no longer the incarnate by that time (Naruto was), so that is why I think it is only a matter of being a Senju rather than having special chakra.
Also, Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke his powers, not Indra's and Ashura's from what I understand.

Well you can blame Kishi for introducing us to the Ashura and Indra transmigrant thing so late in the manga. We were led to believe the whole EMS+Senju+Uchiha DNA = Rinnegan and later we learned otherwise XD

 

[GuySensei]

Well you can blame Kishi for introducing us to the Ashura and Indra transmigrant thing so late in the manga. We were led to believe the whole EMS+Senju+Uchiha DNA = Rinnegan and later we learned otherwise XD

Haha I guess you are right my friend. That Kishimoto...

 

[scorezor]

Incorrect. Uchiha + Senju do not wield a new Doujustu or else Obito would have awakened it. Madara awakened rinnegan because Indra + Ashura not Uchiha/Senju.

indra + ashura are filler characters but ok