Will Activating Bijuu Mode Completely Disable Genjutsu?

[xxSAGExx]

You just straight up denied the manga. I'm not surprised in the slightest that you find it "funny" as your post clearly shows either enormous bias to the point of blinding you from the obvious, or stupidity beyond what I can put into words. The reason no one that isn't trolling takes that panel seriously is because it completely goes against what we've seen in later chapters from all three ninja. Jiraiya would have major problems with them individually. Together? The rape that would occur would be unbelievable. Which makes the panel one of two things,
> A lie to protect Jiraiya.
> Or a retcon.

Tsukuyomi cannot be broken unless you possess the sharingan and are an Uchiha. Period. Kakashi MS or not isn't breaking it,at most he could put up enough resistance not to pass out right away once the justsu has ended. That last part is beyond hilarious as you're actually deciding that Izanami can be broken by someone outside it on the account of Suigetsu who knows literally nothing about the jutsu. In any case i'm fairly sure he didn't even say that. Pretty sure he was worried Orochimaru was going to take his power back, not wake up Kabuto.

Reread the manga. :|
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Me bias? You're one of the most bias on here, if I made a mistake I'll say so. You are right about the Suigetsu part, I was thinking about a discussion I had with a friend who asked why Kabuto wasn't snapped out when Orochimaru took his chakra since that disrupts Kabuto's chakra. You should take your own advice and reread the manga. Itachi tells Kakashi that he is not a true Uchiha and does not have their blood

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. Kakashi said only a Sharingan can match Itachi who goes on to say it's true that only a Sharingan user can take him on but only someone with the same blood as him (a true Uchiha) can defeat him and said his Tsukuyomi can't be beaten while Itachi later on says all jutsus have their weaknesses

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As for the later, Kisame already voiced that he couldn't beat Jiraiya then said Itachi should fair better but he has his disease and if he goes all out he dies. That's why Itachi said if the 3 of them fought then they all would be injured or die. We see Itachi somewhat can do, Kisame can do and what Jiraiya can do. Itachi was fighting someone weaker than him while also being sick, Kisame was fighting someone you can say is stronger than him but a bad match and who didn't want to be noticed, Jiraiya was trying to figure out who Pein was while fighting 1 to 3 to 6 enemies who are all Jounin-Kage level among each (they were fighting Chunins and Jounins in Konoha). Itachi said even if they had backup the same thing would happen, Jiraiya killed 3 Peins which goes with what Itachi said in part 1 about having backup.

 

[TrollKing]

No, they both get one shotted. But pnj solo all

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Tsukiyomi doubt it

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Tha'ts KCM Naruto, not a perfect jinchuriki

 

[Rizengan01]

And when a Jinchuriki is in BM the users chakra is disrupted.

When was this stated?

depends since sasuke was able to escape tsukyomi by activating the curse mark which disrupted his chakra should be the same when activating bijuu mode

Sasuke didn't use the Cursed Seal.

did sasuke activate the curse mark?

No.

 

[Trúth]

Me bias? You're one of the most bias on here, if I made a mistake I'll say so. You are right about the Suigetsu part, I was thinking about a discussion I had with a friend who asked why Kabuto wasn't snapped out when Orochimaru took his chakra since that disrupts Kabuto's chakra. You should take your own advice and reread the manga. Itachi tells Kakashi that he is not a true Uchiha and does not have their blood

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. Kakashi said only a Sharingan can match Itachi who goes on to say it's true that only a Sharingan user can take him on but only someone with the same blood as him (a true Uchiha) can defeat him and said his Tsukuyomi can't be beaten while Itachi later on says all jutsus have their weaknesses

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As for the later, Kisame already voiced that he couldn't beat Jiraiya then said Itachi should fair better but he has his disease and if he goes all out he dies. That's why Itachi said if the 3 of them fought then they all would be injured or die. We see Itachi somewhat can do, Kisame can do and what Jiraiya can do. Itachi was fighting someone weaker than him while also being sick, Kisame was fighting someone you can say is stronger than him but a bad match and who didn't want to be noticed, Jiraiya was trying to figure out who Pein was while fighting 1 to 3 to 6 enemies who are all Jounin-Kage level among each (they were fighting Chunins and Jounins in Konoha). Itachi said even if they had backup the same thing would happen, Jiraiya killed 3 Peins which goes with what Itachi said in part 1 about having backup.

And he eplained what the weakness was in Part one. An Uchiha with sharingan.

I'm not getting into a debate about this. Everything that I needed to say I have. Definetely not turing this into a vs. argument.
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[xxSAGExx]

And he eplained what the weakness was in Part one. An Uchiha with sharingan.

I'm not getting into a debate about this. Everything that I needed to say I have. Definetely not turing this into a vs. argument.
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That's not a weakness, that's someone having the capability to defeat him. He only said his a Tsukuyomi can't be beaten which is false from his later statement. He said a Uchiha with the Sharingan can defeat him. Two different things and he was talking about Kakashi who was trying to do the exact thing Itachi was talking about. Tsukuyomi have all the weaknesses as any other genjutsu and that's not said otherwise in the manga.

 

[Trúth]

That's not a weakness, that's someone having the capability to defeat him. He only said his a Tsukuyomi can't be beaten which is false from his later statement. He said a Uchiha with the Sharingan can defeat him. Two different things and he was talking about Kakashi who was trying to do the exact thing Itachi was talking about. Tsukuyomi have all the weaknesses as any other genjutsu and that's not said otherwise in the manga.

He refers to Tsukuyomi and says that someone with sharingan could resist maybe. But only someone with both Uchiha blood and Sharingan could break it. It doesn't get any clearer than that. I can't believe I even have to explain this.

We're done here.​

 

[Sound]

There is no need for that solely for the fact that the bijuu can disrupt their host's chakra to snap them out of genjutsu. Killer Bee demonstrated that Gyūki could disrupt his chakra in base against Itachi.

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[xxSAGExx]

He refers to Tsukuyomi and says that someone with sharingan could resist maybe. But only someone with both Uchiha blood and Sharingan could break it. It doesn't get any clearer than that. I can't believe I even have to explain this.

We're done here.​

Let me ask you some simple questions that should prove Tsukuyomi can be broken like other genjutsus if one have the ability or skills too.

1st, what Uchiha did Itachi fight and use his Tsukuyomi on to know a Uchiha with the Sharingan might be able to break out or better yet, with what Uchiha did he use it on to know only they can break it? 13 year old Itachi just got his MS from Shusui dying so he didn't have mastery over his MS jutsus.

2nd, who did Itachi fight and use it on to know no one else can break it? We only saw Itachi fight a young Deidara and Orochimaru in flashbacks and those were normal genjutsus and not Tsukuyomi.

3rd, Perfect Jinchuuriki weren't even introduced at the time nor have Itachi shown to have any knowledge of them so how would he know if they could break out or not?

So as you can see from those questions, when you think about it, Itachi have nothing to base on his comment and he even later says all jutsus have weaknesses. Saying it's other Uchihas isn't a weakness, that's their capability.

 

[TrollKing]

There is no need for that solely for the fact that the bijuu can disrupt their host's chakra to snap them out of genjutsu. Killer Bee demonstrated that Gyūki could disrupt his chakra in base against Itachi.

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Not when all the partners get one shot XD

 

[KingHashirama]

It was becoz a person with same blood can break Tsukiyomi and Itachi had planned his loss

False, that one of Itachi's made up crap.

Tsukuyomi can be broken just like a normal genjutsu. Just because its a strong genjutsu, doens't mean it has a special breaking code.
And also Sasuke had stronger eyes than Itachi.


And the fact that people still claim on to the dumb notation of "only same blood can break tsukuyomi" despite that already being countered by Jiriaya.

 

[flyboyissac]

I don't think it works that way, especially considering sauce is using his eyes to control the bijou

Bjiuus that have jins are on a completely different scale then when they are alone.
The Juubi is the best example

 

[TrollKing]

False, that one of Itachi's made up crap.

Tsukuyomi can be broken just like a normal genjutsu. Just because its a strong genjutsu, doens't mean it has a special breaking code.
And also Sasuke had stronger eyes than Itachi.


And the fact that people still claim on to the dumb notation of "only same blood can break tsukuyomi" despite that already being countered by Jiriaya.

The reason why itachi only his brother can beat him is because only his brother had that potential unlike the rest of non uchiha like kakashi and minato

 

[TrollKing]

Bjiuus that have jins are on a completely different scale then when they are alone.
The Juubi is the best example

There's no "different levels", its just the difference between yes team work and no teamwork, you may add intelligence and "focus"

 

[Trúth]

Let me ask you some simple questions that should prove Tsukuyomi can be broken like other genjutsus if one have the ability or skills too.

1st, what Uchiha did Itachi fight and use his Tsukuyomi on to know a Uchiha with the Sharingan might be able to break out or better yet, with what Uchiha did he use it on to know only they can break it? 13 year old Itachi just got his MS from Shusui dying so he didn't have mastery over his MS jutsus.

2nd, who did Itachi fight and use it on to know no one else can break it? We only saw Itachi fight a young Deidara and Orochimaru in flashbacks and those were normal genjutsus and not Tsukuyomi.

3rd, Perfect Jinchuuriki weren't even introduced at the time nor have Itachi shown to have any knowledge of them so how would he know if they could break out or not?

So as you can see from those questions, when you think about it, Itachi have nothing to base on his comment and he even later says all jutsus have weaknesses. Saying it's other Uchihas isn't a weakness, that's their capability.

None of this changes what was stated. I'm not even going to waste my time pointing out the flaws in your post. I keep sayin we're done and you keep replying anyway. :|​

False, that one of Itachi's made up crap.

Tsukuyomi can be broken just like a normal genjutsu. Just because its a strong genjutsu, doens't mean it has a special breaking code.
And also Sasuke had stronger eyes than Itachi.


And the fact that people still claim on to the dumb notation of "only same blood can break tsukuyomi" despite that already being countered by Jiriaya.

KH lives up to his legend. Still using fanfics and opinions to try and twist what the manga states. Carry on Lol​

There is no need for that solely for the fact that the bijuu can disrupt their host's chakra to snap them out of genjutsu. Killer Bee demonstrated that Gyūki could disrupt his chakra in base against Itachi.

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Even if we ignore the fact that the manga has already set the conditions on which Tsukuyomi can be broken this would still be wrong. The jutsu literally lasts an instant and it would take a PJ that long at least to realize it. By the time it's broken the damage has been done.
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[Zebstrika]

Lol, Tsukuyomi doesn't care if you can break genjutsu or not.

Once Itachi uses it, he has you instantly.

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But feel free to argue against the manga like some of the retards here.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Lol, Tsukuyomi doesn't care if you can break genjutsu or not.

Once Itachi uses it, he has you instantly.

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But feel free to argue against the manga like some of the retards here.

Like others, you're saying what was said before further info was given out. Perfect Jinchuurikis weren't a thing at that time and when it was it said they were immune because they can break out easily. Genjutsus take place in the mind, Bijuus and the host minds are connected and the Bijuu can pull the host or the host can decide to go to the Bijuu whenever and time has been shown to vary in that area since Naruto has been shown having whole convos yet still in battle.

Perfect Jinchuurikis could just use the Bijuus chakra themselves which gives them a huge chakra boost, thus disrupting their chakra flow as Sasuke did with his CM; he used it in his mind and broke out. Don't know why people don't get that a Doujutsus isn't like a summoning contract that requires blood, only thing that makes it better than other genjutsus is that it happens in a sec in the real world but Bijuus are in the Jinchuuriki so they would be in the time gap as well.

 

[Koha]

I think either you deliberately skipped the previous page of that chapter or you missed it unintentionally.

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Killer bee broke the tsukiyomi of itachi within a sec.

OT: no genjutsu works against perfect jin.even IT may not work against them

That was not Tsukuyomi. If it was Naruto would've spit up Itachi's crow IMMEDIATELY.Remember Kotoamatsukami was set to activated at the moment that Itachi's MS was used by Sasuke... Or in this case Itachi himself... That was a 3-Tomoe Genjutsu..


To the other debaters, Tsukuyomi works in such a way that TIME is completely distorted within the Tsukuyomi world, Itachi made 2 seconds in real time 3 days in his world... It still took Killer Bee as a perfect Jinchuuriki quite a few seconds to break out of Sasuke's Genjutsu which still means the Beast has to realize an abnormality in the flow of their Jinchuuriki's Chakra.. Which infact takes more than a few seconds without proper warning. In the Tsukuyomi world, that's damage done already.

 

[TrollKing]

That was not Tsukuyomi. If it was Naruto would've spit up Itachi's crow IMMEDIATELY.Remember Kotoamatsukami was set to activated at the moment that Itachi's MS was used by Sasuke... Or in this case Itachi himself... That was a 3-Tomoe Genjutsu..


To the other debaters, Tsukuyomi works in such a way that TIME is completely distorted within the Tsukuyomi world, Itachi made 2 seconds in real time 3 days in his world... It still took Killer Bee as a perfect Jinchuuriki quite a few seconds to break out of Tsukuyomi which still means the Beast has to realize an abnormality in the flow of their Jinchuuriki's Chakra.. Which infact takes more than a few seconds without proper warning. In the Tsukuyomi world, that's damage done already.

Which means will have to suffer tsukuyomi for 10 years if biju can break it

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[lanakui8]

when they use full bijuu mode, naruto and kurama meld their chakra together, so I donʻt really think itʻs possible to put either into a genjutsu.

also, bijuu experience reality through the perception of their jinchurikis, if the jinchuriki is hit with tsukuyomi and perceives time at 3 days per second, so does the bijuu, and the bijuu then has 3 days to snap the jinchuriki out of the jutsu.