Why would Hashirama?

[MickNerks]

It seems i am constantly beeing put in a place to show the ridiculiousness of some of the hashirama supporters. I have found another "statement" they like to make that proves that they couldnt possibly be using reason.

Now it seems that many wish to argue that Edo Hashirama wasnt at full power, because he didnt use Flowering tree world, Wood dragon, or his Advanced Medical Jutsu.

Now this made me laugh for obvious reasons.. Its simply not a smart thing to say. Let me explain why these techniques were possibly not shown.



1. Flowering tree world

Seriously...

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Why would hashirama use a technique that would put not only hiruzen to sleep, but also tobirama and orochimaru. Orochimaru and tobirama would not be able to escape from the pollen seeing that they were locked in a remote area. Ultimately orochimaru would be knocked unconcious and hashirama would just sit there waiting becuase the person controlling him is out cold.. This would suggest that using this techinque would not be smart on hashirama's part.





2. Wood dragon

I find it funny that people actually wanted to see wood dragon be used against hiruzen. A dragon made of would who's main purpose is to absorb bijuu chakra.

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It really makes so much since for hashirama to summon it seeing that hiruzen is a jinchurikri (sarcasm). I mean im sure you may feel that hiruzen is as powerful as a bijuu, but in all reality he is not a bijuu. Once again there is no reason for that technique to be used at all.




3. Medical Ninjutsu

This shows the true ignorance on the base. Some of you guys wanted to see a Edo Hashirama use medical ninjutsu. Im so confused as to what he was gonna heal.lol The man automatically regenerates and has unlimited chakra. The fact that would instantly make us all reconsider his intelligence levels.

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And for all those who say kabuto perfected edo tensei, I want you to read something very carefully.

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Kabuto says very clearly that Orochimaru perfected Edo Tensei. Kabuto did not perfect it so please stop trying to creat your on facts. If anything kabuto truely weakened the technique.

Kabuto is not even strong enought to completly master Edo tension. He also states in the manga that he needs more of orochimaru's chakra in order to increase his binding power of edo tension.

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And once he does absorb anko's oro chakra he states that his binding power becomes more powerful. And gives credit to orochimaru for having such magnificent chakra.

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So ultimately kabuto wanted more control over the edo's; his chakra was just not strong enough to bind them all.
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But anyway thats all i have to say on that as well..

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[KidGamer65]

Orochimaru was toying with the Hiruzen, that's why people say they weren't at full power, though saying they weren't at full power is the wrong way to say it.

So the Edo Kages didn't go all out on Hiruzen, if they had, he would have lost.

 

[TheSages456]

troll thread. the mods should close this.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Hmm nice thread

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[OnPoint]

Let me guess. The Mokuton Kage Bunshin, which only the Mangekyō can see through, was left unused simply for the lulz?

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

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He did master it. Even though Oro's chakra was essential for it, he was able to use it perfectly.

 

[MickNerks]

Orochimaru was toying with the Hiruzen, that's why people say they weren't at full power, though saying they weren't at full power is the wrong way to say it.

So the Edo Kages didn't go all out on Hiruzen, if they had, he would have lost.

ok.. I can accept they didnt go all out, but for people to say they arnt at full power isnt the smartest comment to make.

 

[oShux]

troll thread. the mods should close this.

do you even know what a troll is?

 

[MickNerks]

troll thread. the mods should close this.

how did i troll??

Hmm nice thread

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Thanks. I try

Let me guess. The Mokuton Kage Bunshin, which only the Mangekyō can see through, was left unused simply for the lulz?

I forgot about that.. That is a jutsu that would have been better used.. But to say the 1st and 2nd werent at full power should not be said when speaking on his power.. But you are right, hiruzens use of clones should have prompted hashirama's.

 

[Yuffosan]

You have good points there. Good job!

 

[MickNerks]

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He did master it. Even though Oro's chakra was essential for it, he was able to use it perfectly.

I understand what you are saying.. I believe when kabuto spoke about surpassing the others he spoke about the amount of people he was able to control at once, but that was probally the cause of why his binding power was so weak. Because he controlled more his binding power wasnt as strong which was why many edo's began snapping out of his control.

 

[TheSages456]

how did i troll??



Thanks. I try



I forgot about that.. That is a jutsu that would have been better used.. But to say the 1st and 2nd werent at full power should not be said when speaking on his power.. But you are right, hiruzens use of clones should have prompted hashirama's.

where were the mokuton clones? where was the sprouting mokuton from the body? the size of an individual mokuton tree from hashirama in part 2 makes part 1 hashiramas mokuton look like a joke.

it seems like you left out A lot of things intentionally which makes you look like you arent serious and are really trying to troll with half-assed arguments.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I understand what you are saying.. I believe when kabuto spoke about surpassing the others he spoke about the amount of people he was able to control at once, but that was probally the cause of why his binding power was so weak. Because he controlled more his binding power wasnt as strong which was why many edo's began snapping out of his control.

Nah, don't think so. He clearly said he surpassed them and you know, I believe him

 

[Disquiet]

I think I'm one of the few that believe Kishi had already planned making Madara one of the main villains, thus Hashirama his rival. It wouldn't have been fit for Hashirama to display all those heavy techs regardless. Some of those would have revealed a little too much. Members on here are wrong when they say "If he did" Hiruzen would have lost, no he wouldn't have. If we are truthful with ourselves, we know Kishi would have given some crazy powers to Hiruzen to counter those OP techs of Hashirama for the story's sake. That's why defeating both Hashirama and Tobirama is still a great feat despite the suicide.

 

[MickNerks]

where were the mokuton clones? where was the sprouting mokuton from the body? the size of an individual mokuon tree from hashirama in part 2 makes part 1 hashiramas mokuton look like a joke.

it seems like you left out A lot of things intentionally which makes you look like you arent serious and are really trying to troll with half-assed arguments.

I made a previous post saying i forgot about mokuton clone, which would have been appropriate seeing how hiruzen used clones as well. I simply forgot to add them.

The size of hashirama's tree's in part one looked just as powerful as they did in part 2, there is no diffrence.

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[Icelerate]

I reread that fight a few weeks ago and there were plenty of times where Orochimaru or the edo kages could have finished Hiruzen off but they didn't. Orochimaru also made some comment where he clearly said that he wanted to see Hiruzen suffer for as long as possible. Once Hiruzen was going to use RDS, Orochimaru was curious to see Hiruzen's final jutsu and didn't bother thinking it would be dangerous to do so.

Also bare in mind that it wasn't a 3 VS 1 one like some people like to claim. All three of them took their turns at attacking Hiruzen and they didn't all attack him at once, IIRC.

 

[MickNerks]

Nah, don't think so. He clearly said he surpassed them and you know, I believe him

Well it seems you have made up your mind.lol I will respect your decision.

I think I'm one of the few that believe Kishi had already planned making Madara one of the main villains, thus Hashirama his rival. It wouldn't have been fit for Hashirama to display all those heavy techs regardless. Some of those would have revealed a little too much. Members on here are wrong when they say "If he did" Hiruzen would have lost, no he wouldn't have. If we are truthful with ourselves, we know Kishi would have given some crazy powers to Hiruzen to counter those OP techs of Hashirama for the story's sake. That's why defeating both Hashirama and Tobirama is still a great feat despite the suicide.

Wow, thats one of the most intelligent things i have heard on this base in a while.. You my friend get more rep.

 

[rollin]

orochimaru made them go back to their true form
but hashi didn't use mokuton clones

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[MickNerks]

orochimaru made them go back to their true form
but hashi didn't use mokuton clones

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Nice!!

 

[TheSages456]

I made a previous post saying i forgot about mokuton clone, which would have been appropriate seeing how hiruzen used clones as well. I simply forgot to add them.

The size of hashirama's tree's in part one looked just as powerful as they did in part 2, there is no diffrence.

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as you can clearly see here, a mokuton tree trunk and branch is only as big as a normal tree trunk and branch and is close to the width of a normal person:

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now look at the size of the tree right behind hashirama and say with a straight face that part 1 hashiramas mokuton=part 2 hashiramas mokuton:

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