Why Tobirama is a great counter to Itachi

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Depending on if you want to count the anime as a source (I will be using it for this opinionative argument), Tobirama could pssibly be the best Itachi-counter in the series. I do not know alot about Naruto and Naruto Shippuden, and barely read the manga, but this is my opinion so please do not flame or troll me.

1.) Itachi's genjutsu. Tobirama has a big counter to Itachi's genjutsu, The Bringer of Darkness. This is an anti Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu machine. If Itachi cannot see you, then you are in good shape, because multiple 1 hits from Itachi are not to be feared anymore. Plus Tobirama is a sensor and does not need to see his enemy to attack him.

2.) Izanami. People are going to say, "How will he counter Izanami?" Well, Tobirama is not evil like Kabuto, so it really cannot affect him. He accepts his actions, which is the key to break Izanami. Izanami was really made for counterting Izanagi, and really bad op characters (DSM Kabuto, who can also beat almost anybody 1 on 1.)

3.) Sword of Totsuka. Everyone also says, "Well, blah blah blah, Itachi can just stab him with the Sword of Totsuka." Well guess what. It has NEVER been shown to be able to hit a moving target. It has hit Orochimaru, who was sitting there . Or being reguritated there. Or whatever you want to call it. Show me a scan on where that sword actually hits someone that is moving.

4.) Yata Mirror. Again, everyone saying, "Even if all of that does not work, no one can hit Itachi! He has the Yata Mirror!" I guess he does have it. I have no argument that Tobirama can get inside Susano'o while that mirror is up. I would say he could, but that would be speculation, and I am going by the facts. If Tobirama's S/T was like Obito's, then Tobirama could just teleport inside Susano'o and pound Itachi. But until I know for sure, Yata Mirror wins this match.

5.) Itachi has the worst chakra reserves in the Akatsuki. The Senju are known for there stamina and physical prowess. Look how strong Tobirama was by just puting his hand on a wall. Itachi has pretty good taijutsu, considering he was matching KM Naruto and Killer Bee in a taijutsu fight, but he would be way too tired to stand straight, much less fight. Susano'o also drains him way too much, which he would have used at this point presumeably. This was about a couple minutes (I think) after he sealed Orochimaru, and he is sweating bullets. He cannot stay in Susano'o for more than half an hour.

This is not a flame thread, or a hate thread. I am just wondering if you guys think Tobirama can beat Itachi, and I am just sharing my opinions. If you guys flame me, I might cry, so please do not. I hope that you enjoyed reading this, and have a good day :)
 

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Tobirama does not canonically possess the bringer of darkness. Tsukuyomi one-shots him, as does Amaterasu. Itachi's Suiton is countered by Itachi's Katon; Amaterasu can even be utilized to extinguish all the water in the area since it's extremely hot. In addition to this, the Sharingan allows one to perceive illusions. [SUP][ ][/SUP] Read it's second most prominent ability. What you also seem to forget is that Itachi has had a mastered three tomoe Sharingan since age 8. Age 8. He won't fall prey to such Genjutsu. In fact, he won't at all, since Tobirama does not even possess Bringer of Darkness in the Manga. Pitiful.

Itachi has caught kage-level and above tier opponents off. He can merely induce Genjutsu upon them and finish them with the Totsuka. Moreover, Tobirama has not shown enough fire-power to counter Itachi's mighty Susano'o.

Just because Itachi's Chakra reserves are poor, that does not imply he can't last long; he out-lasted Sasuke. He has very, very good control over his Chakra.

Regarding Tobirama's S/T, we have yet to see what it actually entails. Therefore, for now, we exclude the S/T argument.

Itachi takes this with medium difficulty until we learn more about Tobirama.​
 
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Tobirama does not canonically possess the bringer of darkness. Tsukuyomi also one-shots him. In addition to this, the Sharingan allows one to perceive illusions. [SUP][ ][/SUP] Read it's second most prominent ability. What you also seem to forget is that Itachi has had a mastered three tomoe Sharingan since age 8. Age 8. He won't fall prey to such Genjutsu.

Itachi has caught kage-level and above tier opponents off. He can merely induce Genjutsu upon them and finish with the Totsuka.

Just because Itachi's Chakra reserves are poor, that does not imply he can't last long; he out-lasted Sasuke. He has very, very good control over his Chakra.

Regarding Tobirama's S/T, we have yet to see what it actually entails. Therefore, for now, we exclude the S/T argument.

Itachi takes this with medium difficulty until we learn more about Tobirama.​

I said I will use the anime fore this argument. Thanks for not trolling at least, but if Itachi cannot see Tobirama, then Itachi's genjutsu is worthless.
 

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The totsuka blade is not a weak weapon, it cleaved oro's hydra heads like butter. He can kill tobirama by cutting him with it. (not saying tobi cannot counter its attack but itachi doesnt have to simply seal everything, he sealed oro because he was in hydra form, and nagato because he was edo. You have a lot of assumptions here. In fact, the only valid statement you produced isnt even specific to tobirama, so this is invalid.
 
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I said I will use the anime fore this argument. Thanks for not trolling at least, but if Itachi cannot see Tobirama, then Itachi's genjutsu is worthless.

The anime is not cannon therefore your whole argument is invalid
 

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If you do not know alot about Naruto and Naruto Shippuden and barely read the manga, how do you know about Izanami and kabuto?
 

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lol. Anime for his argument. That's cute. Get this trash off Versus threads if you're not going to use canonical material. And even if Tobirama does ensnare Itachi in said Genjutsu, the Sharingan can perceive it's an illusion and merely break out of it; Itachi is even capable of reversing illusions. Like I said, Itachi still takes this with low to medium difficulty.

Kabuto is the best anti-Itachi character.​
 

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Don't think the nindame would be able to counter Izanagi from what we know about him thus far.
No victory can be concluded unless they actually fight...which isn't going to happen,so,all we can do is just make theories and speculate..which doesn't mean much.
 

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Sorry dude, but using anime as an argument is kind of weak. We don't really know much about Tobirama based on the Manga so, I think it goes to Itachi at this point.
 

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Do you really think tobirama's genjutsu will affect itachi? wow. if it is, itachi will do like this, put amaterasu around to protect himself then activate susanno.. i just read the first one btw cous your pateT-TICCCCK
 

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lol. Anime for his argument. That's cute. Get this trash off Versus threads if you're not going to use canonical material. And even if Tobirama does ensnare Itachi in said Genjutsu, the Sharingan can perceive it's an illusion and merely break out of it; Itachi is even capable of reversing illusions. Like I said, Itachi still takes this with low to medium difficulty.

Kabuto is the best anti-Itachi character.​

If you did not like my arguments, you did not have to come here. I said I will use the anime, and if you do not like it, too bad.
 

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The totsuka blade is not a weak weapon, it cleaved oro's hydra heads like butter. He can kill tobirama by cutting him with it. (not saying tobi cannot counter its attack but itachi doesnt have to simply seal everything, he sealed oro because he was in hydra form, and nagato because he was edo. You have a lot of assumptions here. In fact, the only valid statement you produced isnt even specific to tobirama, so this is invalid.

Can you tell me some of my assumption statements?
 

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bringer of darkness is just a genjutsu. someone of itachi caliber should be able to see through it
 
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