Why these 6 paths are weaker

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you guys are forgetting something, Kakashi has one sharingan

And previously i have noticed that the only disadvantage kakashi has had is that he does not contain the body of an uchiha. It seems like having 1 or 2 sharingan doesnt matter, you still get the full extent of its abilities, of course you will not be able to unlock susano because you need both eyes.
and im guessing if you get the full extent of abilities then rinnegan + sharingan would be powerful with out a doubt, but im guessing that thier would also be some sort of hidden technique that would need both the rinnegan eyes to use, like susano?

But then would there be another hidden technique that would need sharingan and the rinnegan?

this is getting good :)
 
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I'm pretty sure it does. But the real question is how do you prove it does'nt?
Like shinra tensei is 360 degrees for the god realm with 2 rinnegans, my guess is it'll only be 180 degrees with one rinnegan.
Also, the SO6P was the strongest ninja ever, he only had rinnegan eyes, not sharingan.
I saw somewhere he had all dojitsu but he could keep them all in one set of eyes.HIS
 

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you guys are forgetting something, Kakashi has one sharingan

And previously i have noticed that the only disadvantage kakashi has had is that he does not contain the body of an uchiha. It seems like having 1 or 2 sharingan doesnt matter, you still get the full extent of its abilities, of course you will not be able to unlock susano because you need both eyes.
and im guessing if you get the full extent of abilities then rinnegan + sharingan would be powerful with out a doubt, but im guessing that thier would also be some sort of hidden technique that would need both the rinnegan eyes to use, like susano?

But then would there be another hidden technique that would need sharingan and the rinnegan?

Secret dual eyed rinnegan tech is creation of all things
 

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I'm just thinking that there is something else going on in the background, because remember the Uchiha clan and Senju clans are descendants of the SO6P. In shippuden episode 203 Madara mentions this, also it shows the SO6P eyes are red rinnengan, not the normal purple rinnengan.So maybe the combination of 1 sharingan and 1 rinnegan is to counterbalance this or its to gain full control over the "tailed beasts"?
 

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A lot of people are seeming to forget the abilities that come with possessing a Rinnegan.

It gives you access to all six forms of chakra, therefore allowing you to use any justu. This is why the Rinnegan is considered the most powerful doijustu.

It doesn't matter if Madara doesn't have 2 Rinnegan eyes, he can still access the Rinnegan's abilities and therefore use the six jinchuuriki in a similiar fashion as Nagato.

Combined with the Sharigan, which gives access to extremely powerful offensive and defensive techniques, these new six paths will be much stronger. Not to mention the Sharigan can evolve into MS and EMS which I'm sure Madara has.
 
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not really because if you really think about it 1 sharingan plus one rinnegan that means in a group combat just like the pains their vision will be shared plus the sharingan that will make them be able to see and copy the moves of other characters plus the fact that they are host of the tailed beats and 9times out of 10 they will be able to use some of the same jutsu they copy from eachother which means its going to be a long time b4 the naruto and sasuke fight because they are going to have their hands full with the hosts:hint:
 

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I think the whole idea about showing up with this combination is the following:


1.-The jinchuriki`s abilities¨: Meaning these guys may have not tamed their beast as Bee and Naruto did, however, all of them without exception are shown as incredibly skillful shinobis dead threatning to any ninja who stepped into them (during their lifetime)

2.-Taking into account their taijutsu,ninjustu and genjutsu, these factor provide the carriers the possiblity of squeezing the capablity of each of the doujutsu dangerously.

3.-Chakra: This will not be a burden as all of them were intelligent enough to take advantage in each of the situations shown in the manga.

Remember: They were picked, all of them, not noly beacause of their qualifications as ninja,but also because besides the chakra received from the bijus, each of them possessed an incredibly huge chakra, hopefully (for each of the villages) for the user to tame its tailed beast.


They will bea a threat!!
 

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naruto will have a problem with these 6 pains bcuz look at kakashi he only has one sharingan and look how powerful he has become.. with the rinnegan each new pain will get a specific power, if the original pain had the sharingan he would have ruled the ninja world without madara. Madara planned that naruto would kill pain so he could get that power. The rinnegan plus the sharingan is probly going to b the the best combo combinging the two best ninja weapons then their is a master of sharingan controlling them.
 
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naruto will have a problem with these 6 pains bcuz look at kakashi he only has one sharingan and look how powerful he has become.. with the rinnegan each new pain will get a specific power, if the original pain had the sharingan he would have ruled the ninja world without madara. Madara planned that naruto would kill pain so he could get that power. The rinnegan plus the sharingan is probly going to b the the best combo combinging the two best ninja weapons then their is a master of sharingan controlling them.
you can't base what naruto will have a problem with off of how powerful kakashi is... naruto is infinatly stronger than kakashi now.. and learned the boderflicker/flying thundergod technique which don't forget are 2 diff techniques acctually... and he knows the body flicker technique the flying thunder god technique is used with that special kunia and a code... he gets stronger by the minute... i don't think naruto will have a problem with those guys.. i think bee will take care of them while naruto handles sasuke...
 

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nah, while the Rinnegan may be more powerful the Sharingan has so many different benefits with it, i dont recall the rinnegan using the hypnotic eye like kakashi can, and it can see through most jutsu and taijutsu is pretty much a no no unless ur insanely fast lol so...yea, these 2 put together are insanely more powerful than just 2 rinnegan
u sharingan fans are getting annoying. its a fact that pain jus by touching could read yo thoughts and mind and get whatever info he wanted so had it been him against konan well no fight really!

2. u keep saying chakra reading... taijutsu... i dont remember pain gettin owned by sage mode taijutsu.. i mean he was even fast enough to dodge all that was thrown at him by kakashi without pushing, faster than sage jiraya, and most of all faster than naruto in sage mode... he could even block with his hands narutos taijutsu in sage mode! only frog kumite got him coz its nature... couldnt land a single blow and thats after he had exhausted his shinra tensei and could not use it.

no offence which ever way u look at it. no sharingan user can ever beat a rinnegan, kakashi fight proved it. jiraya fight, even hanzo who caould teleport failed! naruto got beat down as soon as pain pull push came back

4. hinata an expert taijutsu user with byakugan (she is fast might i add)
failed to land a single blow until pain coughed blood) so much for taijutsu... remember pain was a genius and could use any jutsu he wanted...

so to summarise i dont see y kishi had to give them sharingan coz well its plain weaker than rinnegan.

also a flow to this plot if the moons eye works... sasuke would break out of tsukyomi he has done it before... killer bee and naruto wont be affected... all byakugan users cant get affected and of course pain can see thru the illusion. so basically madaras plan is a fallacy and flop coz all strong shinobi will break out.
 

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That's impossible. The bijju were used for powering(making a lot of) the zetsus, don't forget.
no they werent. the powers of the 1st hokage were used to grow the w/zetsus. the bijju's powers are still sealed within the statue.
 

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fusing Rinnegan and Sharingan gives you the eye of the 10 tails...

I understand what your saying Cyborg... and the logic your using... but what if having the R and S eyes could release some new power "Madara" has not shown us yet...

also not to mention they are in Zombie mode... so they cant die... "Madara" refers to them as Jinchurkis so they might have some Tailed beast chakra...
 

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u sharingan fans are getting annoying. its a fact that pain jus by touching could read yo thoughts and mind and get whatever info he wanted so had it been him against konan well no fight really!

2. u keep saying chakra reading... taijutsu... i dont remember pain gettin owned by sage mode taijutsu.. i mean he was even fast enough to dodge all that was thrown at him by kakashi without pushing, faster than sage jiraya, and most of all faster than naruto in sage mode... he could even block with his hands narutos taijutsu in sage mode! only frog kumite got him coz its nature... couldnt land a single blow and thats after he had exhausted his shinra tensei and could not use it.

no offence which ever way u look at it. no sharingan user can ever beat a rinnegan, kakashi fight proved it. jiraya fight, even hanzo who caould teleport failed! naruto got beat down as soon as pain pull push came back

4. hinata an expert taijutsu user with byakugan (she is fast might i add)
failed to land a single blow until pain coughed blood) so much for taijutsu... remember pain was a genius and could use any jutsu he wanted...

so to summarise i dont see y kishi had to give them sharingan coz well its plain weaker than rinnegan.

also a flow to this plot if the moons eye works... sasuke would break out of tsukyomi he has done it before... killer bee and naruto wont be affected... all byakugan users cant get affected and of course pain can see thru the illusion. so basically madaras plan is a fallacy and flop coz all strong shinobi will break out.
Your saying things we already know. Of course the Rinnegan is stronger than the Sharingan, it's considered the strongest doijustu. The fact that it gives access to all nature of chakra enables the use any justu which is insanely powerful. Pain used this to his advantage and created six different "paths" in each body.

But this isn't a thread about Sharingan vs Rinnegan. This is about if the Sharingan combined with the Rinnegan would make a stronger six paths.

I believe it will because Madara has access to the Rinnegan's abilities and Sharingan's and therefore is able to use that power with his new six paths. It doesn't matter if Madara doesn't have two Rinnegan eyes, he still can use the Rinnegan's abilities just as Kakashi can with his one Sharingan.

And it doesn't matter if your strong or not, if Madara's plan succeeds then everyone will be under his control by using complete hypnosis with the power of the Sharingan + Rinnegan or as I like to call it, the Ten Tails' eye.
 

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the sharingan+rinnengan combo is gonna be a deadly combo against the enemy, although not nearly as powerful as pain was.

pain ended whole wars by himself and defeated thousands of konoha ninja and still had enough strength to go against naruto sage mode then kyuubi without killing them. then resurrect all the ninjas he killed. he could have easily summoned gedo mazo to take naruto.

whereas the jinchuurikis are revived (and we already know that resurrected ninjas arent nearly as strong as when they were alive) they have only one rinnengan and none of the uzumaki levels of chakra that nagato had. they wont be able to do a large scale shinra tensei on the enemy and hit them with a chibaku tensei like pain could. pein could summon huge animals. they're sharingan is completely useless because they are immortal anyway and wont need to dodge attacks. pain would wipe the floor with them.
 

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I've noticed everyone going ' OMG, these new rikudo paths of Madara are incredibly tough, they're gonna be impossible to beat,etc.' Sorry, but from where i'm standing this all seems ridiculous. Pain had 6 bodies, each of which had 2 rinnegan eyes. These bodies have 1 rinnegan, and one regular 3 tomoe sharingan eye.
Seems everyone has forgotten, but this is the almost universally accepted equation as far as these occular powers go:
Rinnegan> EMS> MS> sharingan(3 tomoe).
So how do 6 bodies that have 1 rinnegan only become tougher than the 6 bodies of Pain that had 2 rinnegan's? Also, these jinchuriki don't have their bijju, otherwise Kabuto would'nt have negotiated with Madara and joined him, he would have attacked him and taken over. Many resurrected shinobi thus far have retained a bit of their conscience, so controlling them won't be as easy or absolute as the 6 paths were for Pain. In short, everybody calm down. I don't think the 6 jinchuriki will be that tough, and they're certainly not invincible.
You do realize sharingan can be activated by will into MS or EMS, whatever you've got, right? They are limited to not using Susano'o definitely, but as far as the rest goes, Kakashi is an example of how good one sharingan is.
As for the rinnegan, I don't really think they have it. It's like with Pain - he didn't pull out his eyes, he just gave them his chakra, transmitted it, in a way. Perhaps Madara is doing just the same.

Finally, the combination of two VERY STRONG ocular powers, which are very valued in the Naruto universe + ex-jinchuuriki (for this role, shinobi of good kekkei genkai/ children of strong and good ninja are chosen) is, even without Bijuu, very, very messed-up.
 
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