Why these 6 paths are weaker

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Alright this is how I see it and why I see these new paths are stronger than Nagato's 6 paths.

Yes, they were insanely powerful alone without the aid of a sharingan and yes by all rights the Rinnegan is the better doujutsu of the two. BUT the sharingan allows the wielder to be able to see the movements of the opponents chakra flow...which makes them able to "copy" their opponents jutsus. So thus granting them the power of the Rinnegan AND the powers of the Sharingan only makes that person that much stronger.

So now look at it like this....All the Jinchuuriki's had unique abilities when they were alive, thus giving them not only the Sharingan but the Rinnegan paths powers only makes them that much stronger. Therefore making them stronger than the original paths.

If you try to bring in the argument that they only had those powers because of their Bijuu's then all I have to say is Gaara. He lost his Bijuu and look at him he is still the Ultimate Defense of the Sand Village, he still can do things that he did when he had the full power of being a Jinchuuriki. So these new paths will obviously have the techniques they had when they were still Jinchuurikis just without the aid of the Bijuu unless Madara implanted them with a portion of their bijuu's powers enabling them to go into a tailed beast mode.
 
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I've noticed that everyone is missing one key factor in this discussion: These Bijuus are already died. Which means, they are under Kabutomaru's control or Madara's. That also means that they are immortals for the time being. They may be weaker than Pain's, but can you REALLY see Naruto punching through fellow bijuus?! Madara's plan from the beginning has made people second guess themselves time and time again. Madara is not as simple-minded as Orochimaru.

"I have a knife, Sensai" Orochimaru says to the 3rd Hokage. "I can see that!" 3rd says as if his intelligences is being questioned.
 

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Thereis no way there are weaker from nagatos. Image a strong weapon & the sharingon is a smaller weapon but still super powerful. Now I would rather have both than just one. That is why madara is stronger than nagato. With one renningan he has all of its powers as having 2 of them(there is still no evidence against this) now he has extra powerful techniques with the sharingon. So6p had renningan but because sharingan came from him thenhe obviously had sharingan infused with it. So yes so6p had a stronger renningan because it had 2 of everything.
 

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I've noticed everyone going ' OMG, these new rikudo paths of Madara are incredibly tough, they're gonna be impossible to beat,etc.' Sorry, but from where i'm standing this all seems ridiculous. Pain had 6 bodies, each of which had 2 rinnegan eyes. These bodies have 1 rinnegan, and one regular 3 tomoe sharingan eye.
Seems everyone has forgotten, but this is the almost universally accepted equation as far as these occular powers go:
Rinnegan> EMS> MS> sharingan(3 tomoe).
So how do 6 bodies that have 1 rinnegan only become tougher than the 6 bodies of Pain that had 2 rinnegan's? Also, these jinchuriki don't have their bijju, otherwise Kabuto would'nt have negotiated with Madara and joined him, he would have attacked him and taken over. Many resurrected shinobi thus far have retained a bit of their conscience, so controlling them won't be as easy or absolute as the 6 paths were for Pain. In short, everybody calm down. I don't think the 6 jinchuriki will be that tough, and they're certainly not invincible.
i feel like the whole purpose for him gathering the remaining chakra was to put it back into the jinchuuriki....thats why i feel like they will be ridiculously powerful....plus the sharingan could be used to control them completely AND/OR we dont know the capabilities of the sharingan/rinnegan (uchiha/senju) combined. Remember, uchiha power + senju power = rikudo power. Thats just me tho.
 

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probably, but he also needs his sharingan to cast infinite tsukyomi on the moon after becoming the 10tails jinchuriki. as far as we've seen rinnegan hasn't casted genjutsu out of it like sharingan has, not saying it can't but so far it hasn't.



"There was a lot of risk involved...I had to use a lot of the tailed beast's chakra within the statue to make this many"

he used the chakra from the sealed beasts to make them but they are still in the statue in a weakened form, the zetsu army won't disappear if he put the beasts in the old hosts, he probably won't do that anyway because then they'd have to reseal them all over again to make the 10tails



i don't think the new 6 paths have MS, they are probably just spare sharingan from his lab, unless he had some with unique powers like shisui had they probably won't be anything special
i don't believe dat madara implanted those sharingan and rinnegan they are just reflects of their controller and secondly the don't use their previous techns.they only ultilize tech granted by the rinnegan.
 

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do you guys think that Madara may need them for his Moon's eye plan? That's what I'm thinking because of the eyes of the 10-tails, each former jinchuuriki has one of each eye for reviving it.....

thoughts?
 

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Isn't it more like it's just Tobi's eyes being projected upon the IWR's? even tho the manga said "sharingan and rinnegan transplanted into the former jinchuuriki" it would be quite stupid of Tobi to put potential useless sharingans in soldiers he wants to win a war with without knowing the individual powers of each eye - remember that not every sharingan is equally powerful, unless ofcourse he knows which sharingan does what.
 

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yes he is really underestimating the combination of the sharingan and the rinnegan. just because u see a normal sharingan... remember its madara he could have done something that allows them to manipulate the sharingan to some extent.
 

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its true that 2 rinnengans are better and dont forget that the sharingan was born out of the rinnengan thus its probebly weaker.but if you look at that this way the new 6 paths have all og pains ability and im guessing they have madaras space time jutus so in combat there more valuble,the can suck there oppenets just like madara did with danzos bodygurds... but its stiil just a guess
 

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you see, i always thot that the rinnegans in the eyes of pain was coz NAGATO WAS CONTROLLING THEM. if there were that many rinnegans rolling about the place then tobi wouldnt hav had to steal nagato's.

in my opinion, the only reason they have one of each is coz madara has one of each, jus like when the kyuubi got sharingans when madara controlled it.

also, didnt the sage of 6 paths hav the eyes of the juubi, and not jus the rinnegan? it shows his son as having juubi-style eyes, maybe the sharingan and rinnegan wer the result of genetic separation over the years, and that theyre not more or less powerful than each other, jus different.

also, cyborg u dnt lisn 2 ppl. u seem 2 want an argument. i dont like that.
 

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also, madara gave nagato the rinnegan in the frst place. im sure he knows exactly how to maximise the strength he gets from his eyes. i mean he has had how many years to work it out? he wudnt risk losing power just so the jinchuriki look like him, he's trying to win a war, not a beauty pageant.
 

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you see, i always thot that the rinnegans in the eyes of pain was coz NAGATO WAS CONTROLLING THEM. if there were that many rinnegans rolling about the place then tobi wouldnt hav had to steal nagato's.

in my opinion, the only reason they have one of each is coz madara has one of each, jus like when the kyuubi got sharingans when madara controlled it.

also, didnt the sage of 6 paths hav the eyes of the juubi, and not jus the rinnegan? it shows his son as having juubi-style eyes, maybe the sharingan and rinnegan wer the result of genetic separation over the years, and that theyre not more or less powerful than each other, jus different.

also, cyborg u dnt lisn 2 ppl. u seem 2 want an argument. i dont like that.
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its true that 2 rinnengans are better and dont forget that the sharingan was born out of the rinnengan thus its probebly weaker.but if you look at that this way the new 6 paths have all og pains ability and im guessing they have madaras space time jutus so in combat there more valuble,the can suck there oppenets just like madara did with danzos bodygurds... but its stiil just a guess
haveing two rinnegans doesn't make a difference than haveing one rinnegan.
 
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