Bait quality low asf, this is how you do a religion troll thread tbh
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And there are people who hurt others for the sake of science and its not for you or me or anyone to say what they can or cant believe in its up to individuals so people like you and i include religious people as well who say that they have to obey or they are part of the problem its people like you who say that are the problem i might be religious but i also believe in scienceNever said that they know everything. There sinply is no need for religion. The harm they did and still do to people, progress and science is the single worst sin there is. And anyone supporting and believing them just worsen the situation...
thats a poor rebuttal seeing how fossils actual exist. Big Bang has major problems. You can say patterns in the universe prove the Big Bang theory but I can argue nature itself can prove the evidence of a designer. Also there is an entropy problem, anyway if both are theorized then the OP shouldn't believe in either. There is no real concrete example for either. At least the others actually have good points.
lol now I'm not educated and the bible is bull crap. I wish my degree knew I wasn't educated....poor degree...Lol, for people who don't like faith pushed on them you sure push your faith in others but get defensive if someone does the same. Lol hypocrisy is the worst right? Also the flat earth comment has no barring as we don discount everything from that time just because they thought the world was flat. Research doesn't make things right, because in your own statement scientist back in ge day thought the world was flat, earth was he center of universe etc. People still get things wrong, even my professor summed up being a scientist as being wrong 99% off the time. Lol he wasn't a Christian btw. You haven't said anything but you opinion. Riker is good about actually using facts to back his statement up instead of just saying "that's bullcrap" or "its old". Again I just shared my belief with the OP. I always get antagonized here no matter what I say or how I say it but it's cool. Call it stupid but I'm a Christian and it's a religion of faith. Many things seem very illogical and it makes it hard to argue and ppl will call you uneducated. I haven't called anyone ignorant but I'm sure you would believe that is a classic Christian response as well, even if you respond in the same way.
EDIT: on the iPhone. Autocorrect and all that jazz.
you dont get it do you? every single person contributes to this VIRUS that is religion by supporting them and believing their crap. they have done way waaay more harm than any good during the past few millenia. who am i to tell them its wrong? who are they to claim those invented things as fact? who are they to commit war and crimes for their cause? who are they to ****ing force adam and eve story in biology classes?Dude, stop being such a bigoted prick. If people want to place their faith in something bigger than themselves and if this helps them in their lives in some way, shape or form without even remotely affecting you, who the hell are you to tell them its wrong?
Ether way this us and them crap needs to end no one is going to agree with each other 50% of the time ether way even if you are religious it states in the commandments thou shall not judge thy neighbor meaning you shouldn't judge ether way no one person is perfectbig bag was just a theory, it was scientist's / atheist way of explaining how the world begun. on religion side, it all started from gods hand, they said it was forbidden to see it with time machine coz something will happen (it was written in babilonian books) during alexander the great era.
No offense but I can't understand you because your spelling and grammar are subpar at best. I didn't grow up poor and I can afford a pc and xbox if I wanted to so try again. You should ask your friend why his life is so shitty instead of assuming religious people lead more successful lives.you probably have a rough childhood then, or youre poor af that cant even aford a pc or xbox or something.... anyway, just bilieve what ever you want, i mean the definition of faith is to bilieve in something youve never seen or its proven its real, but all i know is that people who really bilieve in god are right now or in the future those people who will be really successful in life, my cousin is strugling like you he bilieve in god but he wants to prove it. he end up smoking weeds, and went to meth, his jobless no friends, and all i bilieve religion has huge blow in him, he probably blaming god for everything. why dont you try doing retreat? just ask youre nearby church if they have any.. you might change your views to what faith is.
the only source of your religion is a book. a book with so many proven wrong facts and errors, not to mention translation as well as intepretation mistakes. a book which says its ok to hurt your wife. a book which says its a sin to have *** before marriag, to be gay or all the other stuff. how could you possibly support a religion which preaches that? if you do believe in science (which isnt about believing anyways but about knowing but whatever) youre not a cristian. its your ego. your pride or your upbringing, or maybe even your simple narrow mind which doesnt let you let go of this.And there are people who hurt others for the sake of science and its not for you or me or anyone to say what they can or cant believe in its up to individuals so people like you and i include religious people as well who say that they have to obey or they are part of the problem its people like you who say that are the problem i might be religious but i also believe in science
And no person is perfect regardless religious or not ether way people kill each other all the same so what its their right just as the science side is anyone right no does it make it right to shove beliefs down throats no are you right no am i right no is anyone right no ether way no one is right your judmentalness againts the religious that is about as wrong as the wests view of islam being the most evil thing in the worldthe fact that youre "educated" and still believe in a broken religion makes it even worse. you dont have to teach me about science bro. and its not about opinions here. thats what you dont get and thats exactely what makes you ignorant and uneducated. its not about opinions but about pure facts.
you dont get it do you? every single person contributes to this VIRUS that is religion by supporting them and believing their crap. they have done way waaay more harm than any good during the past few millenia. who am i to tell them its wrong? who are they to claim those invented things as fact? who are they to commit war and crimes for their cause? who are they to ****ing force adam and eve story in biology classes?
I get it. I just find it an incredibly stupid stance to take.you dont get it do you? every single person contributes to this VIRUS that is religion by supporting them and believing their crap. they have done way waaay more harm than any good during the past few millenia. who am i to tell them its wrong? who are they to claim those invented things as fact? who are they to commit war and crimes for their cause? who are they to ****ing force adam and eve story in biology classes?
Its not about my beliefs that i stand for and i was brought up to never raise a hand to the opposite *** its not about my ego or my pride it is about what is right if you want to get all science nature dont support gayness man cant create life without the woman and woman cant create life with out man simple enough but that is a topic for another time the reason im fighting is for the right of every person to believe what ever faith or science they want without judgement pricks like you treating them like shit for stating their beliefthe only source of your religion is a book. a book with so many proven wrong facts and errors, not to mention translation as well as intepretation mistakes. a book which says its ok to hurt your wife. a book which says its a sin to have *** before marriag, to be gay or all the other stuff. how could you possibly support a religion which preaches that? if you do believe in science (which isnt about believing anyways but about knowing but whatever) youre not a cristian. its your ego. your pride or your upbringing, or maybe even your simple narrow mind which doesnt let you let go of this.
You sir are a decent human being please i humbly request you accept this rep pointI get it. I just find it an incredibly stupid stance to take.
You are supporting your argument by using a very small example that only affects a couple thousand people, the biology class argument. Incredibly hypocritical since you're forcing your belief into other people, criticising them for being religious while you yourself are a rational human being, clearly above them. I know what you're gonna say, "but one thing is the truth, the other is just fiction"...and yeah, I agree. But that's not the point. What I am saying is that you cannot force your belief down another person's throat like you are doing now. Aside from the fact that it makes you look like a complete douchebag, do you REALLY think this is the right way into convincing someone to look past their religious beliefs and into the more scientific side of things? By taking a dump on the way they live and see the world around them? F*ck no, that's beyond stupid.
Religion has indeed started conflicts, and many horible things were done in the name of a God or gods. But since then it has become part of our society. You know we can't change what happened, only what will happen. You cannot force people out of religion, the best you can do is try and convince them to not let religion define their judgement on things such as gay marriage, for example. However, if you try and destroy the pillar of society that is religion, nothing good will come of it.
Who cares though? Let him judge. Don't know why you guys waste energy with Atheist anywayIts not about my beliefs that i stand for and i was brought up to never raise a hand to the opposite *** its not about my ego or my pride it is about what is right if you want to get all science nature dont support gayness man cant create life without the woman and woman cant create life with out man simple enough but that is a topic for another time the reason im fighting is for the right of every person to believe what ever faith or science they want without judgement pricks like you treating them like shit for stating their belief
Thanks, mate.You sir are a decent human being please i humbly request you accept this rep point
But humans don't know everything there is to know. How did Earth get here? Who knows. I mean didn't humans used to believe the Earth was flat? There are so many new things to discover. It's not impossible for Earth to exist without a creator. It's just we we haven't seen the way a planet comes into existence.These are two quotes from the Qur'an:
"Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and earth, and the alternation of the night and the day, and the [great] ships which sail through the sea with that which benefits people, and what Allah has sent down from the heavens of rain, giving life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and dispersing therein every [kind of] moving creature, and [His] directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the heaven and the earth are signs for a people who use reason[Chapter 2, Verse 164]."
"Indeed, within the heavens and earth are signs for the believers[45:3]."
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If we saw a building like this on an empty planet, people will instantly believe that someone must have been there in a certain time in history, because such a building requires an architect.
In these two verses it explains that the Earth is a sign for a believer. This is because it is impossible for such a complicated structure to just come into existense on its own. So the Earth was made by an architect that we worship.
Arian said that we were hardwired to worship God. This also proves Allah's existence because Allah says in the Qur'an:
"I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me[51:56]."
Theres a point to being judgmental and theres a point to where it makes you a prick i rather defend a persons right to believe in what they want to believe that is their right if they want to believe in a religion or in science then that is what i am defending i dont care who it is in all honestyWho cares though? Let him judge. Don't know why you guys waste energy with Atheist anyway
My thing is, if you came in here knowing you weren't going to get scientific proof of religion. Why even make the thread?But humans don't know everything there is to know. How did Earth get here? Who knows. I mean didn't humans used to believe the Earth was flat? There are so many new things to discover. It's not impossible for Earth to exist without a creator. It's just we we haven't seen the way a planet comes into existence.
Well regardless if you defend or not, you all will believe in what you believe in anyway. It's a waste of time. Just let it be, OP was looking for a hot threadTheres a point to being judgmental and theres a point to where it makes you a prick i rather defend a persons right to believe in what they want to believe that is their right if they want to believe in a religion or in science then that is what i am defending i dont care who it is in all honesty
Honestly there is no way to know sadly all we can do is just live our livesBut humans don't know everything there is to know. How did Earth get here? Who knows. I mean didn't humans used to believe the Earth was flat? There are so many new things to discover. It's not impossible for Earth to exist without a creator. It's just we we haven't seen the way a planet comes into existence.
Yeah you're right. This was pointless. God cannot be proven.My thing is, if you came in here knowing you weren't going to get scientific proof of religion. Why even make the thread?
People will do anything for a hot thread nowadays
Well regardless if you defend or not, you all will believe in what you believe in anyway. It's a waste of time. Just let it be, OP was looking for a hot thread
Never said thatYeah you're right. This was pointless. God cannot be proven.