Why senjus were able to keep up with the most powerful clan
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Now you went from calling stamina is chakra to yang energy being chakra. Just stfu, you troll. You're annoying
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Easily mate. Agreed.
I didn't know you hate him. Since you're a Hashi fan and all.
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OP, the clans are equal in power. Eye power = body power.
You misinterpreted Tobirama statement because you just read the that panel instead of the entire scene. Tobirama was talking about Uchiha's power of love not strength. Saskue questioned Tobirama about the Uchiha clan and Tobirama explained to him their power of love -
You misinterpreted Tobirama statement because you just read the that panel instead of the entire scene. Tobirama was talking about Uchiha's power of love not strength. Saskue questioned Tobirama about the Uchiha clan and Tobirama explained to him their power of love -
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- the entire conversation about love.
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Hashirama rekt the pinnacle of that profound love and power of the uchihas multiple time.....:salt::salt:Hahaha
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Use the viz translation. Tobirama specifically said that their love runs so deep that when they suffer a great loss for that love, they awaken a power greater than the senjus.
He specifically said love AND power for that reason. Strong feelings grants for the loss of their love grants them more power. That's how the mangekyo is awakened.
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No he didn't. Because the stronger ones came after he died, if he lived longer he would'v been dealt with.
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The entire scene is talking about love not strength. Tobirama only talks about their power of love and said it's too strong. He stated no clan treasures love like the Uchiha clan. I posted links to pages that shows their entire conversation. You post one panel from their conversation. Why don't you post the entire conversation?
You make is sound like Viz is perfect and doesn't make mistakes.
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Rikudou Tobi
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He talks about there love giving them that great strength/power, and that's why he thought the Uchiha clan was dangerous. If it was all about love and no strength, then why would he be weary of that clan in the first place? It doesn't make any sense. It was clearly talking about power, he wouldn't of said it if it wasn't. You're trying to oppose Tobirama's direct statement.
Look, where do you stand exactly in saying which translation is perfect or not? Even if you believe it is not perfect, it's still better than the fan translated ones you pulled up. Those things are biased and full of errors all the time, you can't validate viz over bad translation.
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....uchiha wouldn't have lived long if Hashirama hadn't shown them mercy and spared their lives.Tobirama is talking about Uchiha clan love and the power of it. Yes, it does make them stronger, but he never said their power is stronger than the Senju clan. He said their love is. Their problem with love is they can't control it.
I'm not opposing Tobirama statement. You are misinterpreting it because you want them to be stronger than Senju. The manga has explained and showed us how the clans are equal. It wouldn't make scene for Tobirama to say Uchiha clan is stronger when the manga has proven they are equal. That means Tobirama was talking about their love being stronger.
I'm not saying the translation is wrong I'm talking about normal mistakes that are made in manga and books. That statement could have been worded better to help you understand the scene. The scene is talking about the power of love.
PS:I see your updated post and Tobirama is still talking about love, hate, and emotion. Like I said he is talking about the power of love. The entire scene is about love and emotions.
IE: The love is the power Tobirama talked about that hides in them and gets out of control.
Once again read the entire scene not just certain statements or panels.
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Rikudou Tobi
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He said their LOVE AND POWER.
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I didn't misinterpret anything. You're just looking way too much into it that it's not making sense. Just read the fine print.
It is worded better. You can't find a better translation than viz, that's why nobody is arguing this but you. There's at least three people on this thread besides you that prefer senju better and none of them are arguing with the viz manga I just posted now because they know the context is right.
This is about Uchiha's level of love equating to their power. And that power exceeds the senju because their love is too deep that it turns into hatred towards others. It's not that hard.
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Hashirama would die if he fought alone, he still needs the senju clan to take them all out. But yet, he still died in war anyway.
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Who said he'd fight them alone. After he killed madara he'd leave rest of the uchiha fodders to the senju clan to finish up. Even Tobirama would sit and enjoy.....:salt::salt:Hahaha
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Madara revived via transcript spell. He was hiding the whole time because knew Hashirama wouldn't do anything. If he came back with hashirama's tissue, it'll be a solo.I know the scene say love and power. That's what I'm talking about. The statement should have read "Love, a power". It would have been the same but easier to understand.
The entire conversation is about love. Other translations say Tobirama was talk about the Uchiha clan power of love. The Uchiha and Senju clans have been fighting since Sage's sons first fought each other. The manga stated the clans are equal. After years and generations of fighting each other the Uchiha's surrendered to the Senju clan. If the Uchiha were stronger they would have defeated the Senju clan.
Like is said it doesn't make any scene for Tobirama statement to mean the uchiha's are more powerful than the senju when nothing suppose that.
Let me explain something I don't look at just one statement, panel, scene, or whatever. I look at everything. I know this manga changes often, make mistakes, and even contradictions itself.
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I didn't mean their VoTE fight. I meant before when Madara lost and was lying their half dead at Hashirama's mercy. So no matter how you try spin it fact still remains that Hashirama spared them and let Madara live.Hahaha
I dislike Tobirama and how he act. Hashirama is a fave of mine tho.Now you went from calling stamina is chakra to yang energy being chakra. Just stfu, you troll. You're annoying
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Easily mate. Agreed.
I didn't know you hate him. Since you're a Hashi fan and all.
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Tobirama invented shadow clone to counter Sharingan genjutsu
Tobirama invented FTG to counter pre-cog
Tobirama mastered suiton to counter Uchiha's katon
Tobirama's sensoring ability gives him ability to face Sharingan 1v1
The Senju's ninjutsu naturally counter the Uchiha's it's always been that way. Their traits were large chakra pool and ninjutsu talent, based on Tobirama and Hashirama that talent would be element jutsu. On the other hand Uzumaki trait is life force and stamina.
He is right though..Hahaha
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It was painfully obvious that the uchiha were outclassed during our clashes
