Why Sasuke will -NEVER- be Hokage, unless he changes dramatically.

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Wrong.

A hokage can't change the village as he wants, since he would become a tyrant.

Sasuke made it obvious that he doesn't care what the villagers think. He wants to become Hokage by force. He may be ''good'' but there is a dormant evil inside him.

He saw mistakes by other kages... And what they did to uhiha ? Take them by force. What Sasuke want to be perfect Kaga make 0 mistakes coz he know what other kages did. And se said it loud
 
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Yea I agree his i don't give a sh.t response and let bygones be bygones was like a oh word..lol
 

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failed to read the part where Naruto was memorizing Itachi's words? <_<

last thing the village wants/needs is a fodder Uchia to represent the village.
 

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You idiot... He saw mistakes by other kages... And what they did to uhiha ? Take them by force. What Sasuke want to be perfect Kaga make 0 mistakes coz he know what other kages did. And se said it loud

Don't call me an idiot you fa ggot.
 

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Agreed and nicely presented.

Sasuke should genuniely care about what people think first.Even with that; he still may not be worthy for the title.
 

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No, sasuke isn't looking for recognition. It's not because he's alone, it's because he's seen a revelation.

The first hokage - He never got rid of the most pain in the ass uchiha and never did anything to get the uchiha to be more accepted
second - persecuted them and borderline banished them
third - Allowed mass genocide. did nothing to even try to help or understand they uchiha, just let danzo have his way.
forth - uhh... didn't kill obito or something.

Basically, Sasuke realises that they only way to peace is to accept everyone into the village. Make everyone a family and not try to stigmatise some and push them away. There's never been an uchiha in power, so this can be what konoha needs.

In any case, it's not up to k11 who becomes in power. It's up to the village elders. I'm sure the four hokage might have even stopped to talk to the elders while they were hanging in konoha. For all we know 'I'm going to be hokage' didn't mean he was going to run for candidacy, but actually meant "I've been appointed/recommended to be the new hokage."

Really, the only thing hashi said was he's glad there are so many candidates, but they have a bigger problem.
 

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it's because he's seen a revelation.

The first hokage - He never got rid of the most pain in the ass uchiha and never did anything to get the uchiha to be more accepted
second - persecuted them and borderline banished them
third - Allowed mass genocide. did nothing to even try to help or understand they uchiha, just let danzo have his way.
forth - uhh... didn't kill obito or something.

Sasuke killed the almost Sixth Hokage.

The elders/village will never support him.
 

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Sasuke killed the almost Sixth Hokage.

The elders/village will never support him.
If you look at sasuke's past you'd realise he actually cares a shit load about konoha.

1) He went out of his way to protect the village and his comrades from gaara's rampage. He even had his nice speech with naruto telling him to save sakura and what not.

Then itachi came along and threw him on a lost path, this is when his 'transgrssions' came about, but really, he did little wrong;
Infact, sasuke became so insane because of his love for konoha. He wanted revenge on the guy who wiped out part of the village, who wiped out the entire uchiha clan. A guy who continually tortured him from that day.

- Sasuke went about to eliminate the Number 1 bingo book member, and the guy who killed the third hokage: Orochimaru. That's help to konoha right there, and vengeance against someone who hurt the village. Any other konoha nin would do this given the opportunity.

- Sasuke then went on to eliminate a high ranking criminal: Deidara. This man was a member of akatsuki, and was sort after by nations. He did nations a favour.

- He then went on to eliminate the most reviled criminal in konoha: Itachi. He killed the man who singlehandedly (as far as konoha knew) destroyed a large portion, and a large clan in the village ofo konoha. Sasuke did konoha a favour by scratching off another criminal.

That's 3 bingo book criminals without asking for payment. Villages got rid of criminals for free so far.

- Sasuke then went on to kill the 6th hokage. But, really, was this bad? No. The guy was a tyrant.

Danzo singlehandedly caused the cleansing of the uchiha clan (making him even more scum than itachi). Formed a sub division militia within konoha which sought after little good for the village. He then used KA on the village elders to attain Hokage-ship (not very credible) and stood by idly while Pain, Orochimaru, and Itachi ran rampant through konoha. This man then went on to use KA at a KAGE summit to attain absolute say over a joint army. This guy was basically slowly rising up to dictatorship.
As far as konoha knows(except elders), sasuke killed a hokage. But, when they learn the truth behind danzou, they'd learn that sasuke killed one of the biggest scum ever produced in konoha.

That's 4 favours for konoha right off the bat.

But, his transgressions;
- ' being a missing-nin '... right...
- attacking a citizen of another nation( killer bee ); but, really, he had little choice as a mad man was basically forcing him to do it. This isn't even konoha's problem.
- His biggest problem however was the kage summit. But, let's analyse what happened during the kage summit.
  • Sasuke wanted to kill scum(danzo)
  • Sasuke didn't want to hurt anyone, even going out of his way to stay as hidden as possible
  • Sasuke was sold out by obito -- through zetsu
    Now, this is where it's no longer sasuke's fault.
  • The raikage rushes him and pretty much initiates an unavoidable conflict
  • Sasuke has to defend himself from a guy who's straight up trying to kill him and this extends to him having to fight 4 kage and being labeled a criminal
If we think about the kage summit, we can clearly see it was a setup by obito and sasuke had no intention of fighting any other kage. But, what else would you expect him to do (susano'o/amaterasu) when some rash madman is trying his best to kill him? The raikage wasn't even sitting by to chit chat even though sasuke wasn't there for him.

The only 'crime' sasuke has ever really committed was being manipulated by obito and doing konoha several favours by scratching off names from the bingo book. But, honestly, how bad is that? Obito manipulated nagato, yagura(a kage) and many others. The second you realise that sasuke was under obito's hard-to-avoid finger, you'll realise that his only 'crimes' are completely forgiveable.

EDIT: I forgot the part where he tried to kill team 7. That's genuinely a bad thing, but that isn't K11's problem, only team 7. Especially when sakura came to assassinate him in the first place...
Then he can always say he almost got rid of obito was amaterasu XD
 
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Okey i will call you retard then...
You telling like Sasuke is bad guy... But you are moron... If he want rule world by force he would just join madara, much easer. He will follow Itachi footsteps.

And yes you idiot :D

I see you're not a clever one.

Sasuke believes that what he does is right, but he is wrong. He wants to be Hokage because he thinks that he will be able to honor Itachi's sacrifice, when in reality he would simply take a dump on it.
 

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I see you're not a clever one.

Sasuke believes that what he does is right, but he is wrong. He wants to be Hokage because he thinks that he will be able to honor Itachi's sacrifice, when in reality he would simply take a dump on it.

Why you saying it ? what he will do ? You have no reasons to say it...
He is trying to make that no1 else will suffer as uchiha clan suffer... No >?
But as i can see by his talks he know he made few mistakes in past and he wont try run from it he will deal with them and take everything to his controll by helping people... Just w8 and see

But i can tell that he wont try do anything by force. Because when past Hokage did this they fail, and he understand that. And he want to make leaf better place for every1.
 

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This is how i see the whole Hokage situation.

Sasuke doesn't really care about the 'title' - he just wants to become Hokage so can have the power and authority to change the village that put his brother through so much hell forever. He doesn't want that to happen to anybody ever again. After what the previous Hokages have done that are INDIRECTLY to blame for this war, he wants to change it all. This is much more personal to Sasuke then just a "dream" - it's something he needs to do, it's going to eat him inside if he can't reach it.

Naruto originally thought that he needs to become Hokage to be acknowledged, that was his main reason for wanting to become Hokage but Itachi corrected Naruto on that. Naruto was acknowledged anyway by whole village after pain and now the entire Shinobi world, everyone loves him - he's a star. Sasuke is now "good" so that was the only thing stopping Naruto from wanting to become Hokage - he wanted Sasuke to come back.

So now that...

1) Naruto is acknowledged - like he always wanted
2) Sasuke has come back - like he always wanted

What other reason is there for him to become Hokage? His "dream" was succeeded when he got the villages acknowledgement - so it's not that. In my opinion it's so he can beat Sasuke. Unfortunately, Naruto doesn't realize how important this is to Sasuke, it's much more then a "dream" to him.

The problem is that nobody will want Sasuke to become Hokage - heck, he'll probably be on the run for the rest of his life after the war. The reason he ain't being punished now is because it's a fking war. They have more important things to do.
 
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