Why Sasuke Will Become Hokage.

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So basically Sasuke gets what he wants or he will throw a tantrum and kill everyone, that's a fine message for children do bad things and get rewarded, threaten to kill people and you will be given power.

The village has another solution, kill Sasuke and he can't become a threat, Tobirama made it clear that he would kill Sasuke to stop him and I doubt Hashirama would hesitate, he tried to kill his best friend to save the village, he wouldn't hesitate to kill Sasuke if he was becoming another Madara.

You don't become Hokage just because you will throw a tantrum if you don't get it, you get it because you deserve it.

Its like Itachi said, you don't get recognized when you become Hokage, you become Hokage by being recognized, something Sasuke doesn't have.

Alright, so instead of Sasuke becoming the Hokage because that is just an awful message, you'd rather Kishimoto send the message that if you can't fix a problem, just kill it? That's a fine message for children: if you see something wrong just destroy it, problem solved!

And Sasuke is getting recognized during this war for helping defeat the Jūbi. Already the Konoha 11 were cheering him on after talking about he could never be accepted. Truly you don't believe that helping defeat a god will not help your reputation?
 
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The Sasuke hate is ridiculous... Sasuke Hater: Hurrrr Durrrr I wish Sasugay died, *whine, whine, whine*

Doesn't matter if either of them become Hokage, they got bigger things to do in life. Naruto is already a reincarnation of the SO6P, he probably has a bigger job than Sasuke posing as a Hokage. If Sasuke doesn't become Hokage, he is smart enough to look for another that can keep him on his toes. it really doesn't matter if his good or evil. It could be either way. The rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke helps them develop and grow if one of them were died than they won't develop at this current pace.
 

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It's almost infuriating that the number of ignorant Naruto Fanboys has increased. This is completely in character of how Naruto acts and how the manga that Kishimoto made works. To those saying that Madara didn't want to become Hokage.. yes but due to his lack of a role in Konoha, you can argue that is more of what pushed him to do what he did. It could be seen as Hashirama's Biggest Mistake in a sense. Had he been Hokage, Madara wouldn't have done half or any of the things he did. Naruto knows the Curse of Hatred and will make sure Sasuke doesn't go back to that side again. Then Naruto will either stay or go on ventures like Jiraiya. And to those who say Sasuke is a criminal, so was Gaara and everyone but Kankuro and arguably Temari hatred him. Sound familiar?
 

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I hope you do realize Hashirama is standing right by Naruto right now.


So hashi's gonna sit down and tell him his story? Like we need to hear it a second time.
Still doesn't change the fact that naruto doesn't have the power to make him hokage.
 

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Sasuke said he was gon be Hokage, that's what gonna happen
 

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While I understand your points and reasons, it's not logical in any manor for Sasuke to become Hokage. A kage is a shinobi who is looked upon by the entirety of the village. Now, while that may be in Naruto's heart do that, it's not practical. Naruto can't choose a predecessor, or someone to be a Hokage. unless he's a Hokage first.

1. Sasuke became a rogue ninja. Rogue ninja are to be killed on sight. That in itself should be enough to put an end to this thread. Rogue ninja are not accepted as a shinobi of their village anymore, and while Tsunade wanted to help bring him back, imagine what the village elders would say. Imagine the feudal lords would do. Sasuke would likely be banished if Naruto even managed to bring him back.

2. Sasuke murdered Danzo. Regardless of whether or not Danzo killed himself, Sasuke forced it. It's manslaughter. He caused the death of a high ranking officer in the Konoha "government". That itself is another thing that will end this thread. It can't be argued because he did it.

3. Sasuke attacked the kage. The kage all had the intent to kill Sasuke which backs up my previous point on him being a rogue ninja. The only one who even cared an inkling for him was Gaara, but then went on the offensive after Sasuke would not back down.

Those points are all that is needed to put this to rest. While by some PnJ it's possible he can become Hokage, it's not likely. He most likely has some ulterior motive for helping Naruto and the SA. Likely so he doesn't get put into Obito's genjutsu.
 

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Its not about the villagers at this point. Naruto wants to break the curse of hatred, and if he refuses to allow Sasuke the title of Hokage it will cause Sasuke to succumb once again.

Its not about the villagers? If sasuke is no accepted by the people, he wont be accepted by the council.

You do realize that before sasuke is even considered, kakashi and shikamaru would make better candidates?
 

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So hashi's gonna sit down and tell him his story? Like we need to hear it a second time.
Still doesn't change the fact that naruto doesn't have the power to make him hokage.

No...

Obito told Sasuke Itachi's story. Obito also told Kakashi/Naruto/Yamato the story too, however, that time we didn't have to hear it. Same thing can easily happen with Hashirama's story.

And Sasuke is slowly being recognized again, shown by all of the Rookies cheering Sasuke on when he was helping defeat the Ten Tails. Maybe him defeating a god that could destroy continents would help his reputation...?
 

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Madara did want to be Hokage read #625 pages 9-15 to refresh your memory if you read the manga. Also Narutopedia states the same thing on the Madara Uchiha page. It's only after he overhears Hashirama and Tobirama talking about it that he decides to leave the village when his clan won't help him to overthrow the Senju, thus starting the cycle of hatred.

Naruto is very much into fulfilling Juraiya's legacy. He wants to bring peace to the shinobi world. He might be willing to give up his dream of becoming Hokage if it means bringing peace. Naruto could have killed Nagato in order to avenge Juraiya's death and he chose not to in the interest of peace between their villages. I could see him even going to bat for Sasuke to become Hokage if it would help to bring peace. I think it's possible if Naruto and the edo Hokages go to bat for Sasuke.
 
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Sasuke wants to be the hokage, and he is getting recognition on a worldwide scale. However, Naruto also wants to be hokage, and his international recognition is more positive than Sasuke's. In that regard, Naruto is more likely to become the hokage.

As for the curse of hatred, that is not something that Naruto has to break, because he is not an Uchiha. Breaking the curse lays entirely on Sasuke's shoulders. Naruto even instructed Sasuke to clash his hatred against him, because he could withstand it, but he never said that he would eliminate it. As the last member of the Uchiha clan, it can be seen as Sasuke's responsibility to end it himself. He may indeed break the cycle and take the different path from Madara, but that does not entail him receiving the title of Hokage, but rather him accepting and not retaliating against his rival receiving it in his stead.
 

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It will be the same everybody will want naruto as hokage instead of sasuke. naruto will be hokage despite it all. turning sasuke evil just like hashi and madara
 

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So missing nin can be kage......???? I vote for kisame......or i vote for hidan and kakuzu...... Or gold and silver brother then the A.
Why they all never be kage...?? Becouse they all missing nin........... Only konoha 11 who hear sasuke goal....
But not one village,
 

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First and foremost, Hashirama isn't the one who made the mistake. He WANTED Madara to become Hokage. It was the village who decided that Hashirama would be the one to have the title. Madara didn't like what Tobirama said about his clan and the mistrust that was still rampant. He couldn't see being the 2nd-in-command after that. At that point, he thought it'd be better to leave and fight Hashirama for control.

If you want to bring the curse of hatred into this, then simply say that history will repeat itself if Sasuke doesn't become Hokage and leave it at that. There are other ways to break this cycle. For instance, Sasuke could relinquish his thought of becoming Hokage. Him saying that he wanted to become Hokage was what made this whole situation similar to Hashirama and Madara.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Naruto will become Hokage. The only way this is changing is 1) if he dies, which is highly doubtful or 2) he gives the seat to Sasuke in order to become a feudal lord or something of a higher level, which I also find highly doubtful. If you want to see the reasons why I think Naruto is the better choice then here is what I've posted in another thread similar to this one.

Sasuke:

1. Sasuke hasn't actually stated his intentions for the village. He has only said that he has heard about the mistakes of the previous hokages, but he hasn't stated how he would intend to "fix" them. Along with that, he doesn't necessarily share the dream that Madara and Hashirama had or the dream that his brother had.

2. Take a look back when he learned about Itachi's true past. He wanted to destroy the village even after learning of how much his brother wanted to protect it. Granted, he hated the village elders for putting his brother through all of that pain, but that isn't reason enough to want to destroy an entire village of innocent people.

3. Sasuke doesn't care what other people think about it. Itachi made it clear that the Hokage must be respected and acknowledged as a good leader and person BEFORE being chosen for the position. Nobody in the Alliance respects or likes Sasuke because he is an S-rank criminal who has acted without thought to others. The only exceptions to this would be Sakura and Naruto...and we all know the reason for them. What's worse is that Sasuke could care less about what people have to say. He doesn't want to listen to their opinions or advice. He always wants to go it alone, never wanting to let people in. Does that make for a good leader? Not in the least. Part of being a good leader is listening to what your comrades have to say. Having an open mind is very important, and Sasuke just doesn't have that. He doesn't even listen to his teammates for crying out loud.

4. He is easily influenced. I mean, come on, the guy has changed his resolve multiple times now. "I will kill my brother" to "I will destroy all of Konoha, starting with the elders" to "I will kill Madara Uchiha." And that's only a few of the times. Each time he was influenced by an outside force (i.e. someone telling him about the past). Only this last time did he actually decide to figure things out on his own and even then he was influenced by what Hashirama said. The Hokage should be someone who sticks to the path he walks. It shouldn't be someone who changes his mind every 5 minutes.

Naruto:

1. Naruto has always wanted to become Hokage. True, when he was younger he wanted to become Hokage so that he would be acknowledged and respected. Now that he is older though he wants to become Hokage so that he can protect the village and his friends.

2. Additionally, Naruto could have easily decided to hate everyone in his village. They all hated him and he never knew what love felt like until he met Iruka. That was at the age of 12. If he had wanted to, he could have blocked Iruka's kindness and could have embraced the Kyuubi's dark influence. He could have destroyed the village in no time, making them pay for all of the pain and suffering they put him through. To never have known love is a painful existence. It is a path with two possibilities- light and dark. Naruto chose to suppress the darkness inside of him and connect with others.

3. He has never deviated from his dreams or his nindo. Naruto has always been determined and gutsy. It's who he is. He never once said "oh well I'm tired of trying to have friends so I'll become evil instead." Nope. Instead, he pushed on and trained to become stronger. When he fought against the bad guys, he showed them his resolve and never went back on his word to protect someone. No matter how many times he was knocked down or demeaned, he got right back up again and showed who he truly was. Naruto constantly shows what it means to never waiver from a chosen path.

4. Not once has Naruto ever ignored what his friends had to say when it really counted. He cares what people think of him and he values their opinion. That's part of the reason why he tries so hard. Sure he is impulsive, but he does listen when it's something important.

5. Naruto wants to do nothing but bring peace to the world. He pushes himself to his limits in order to protect everyone. Self-sacrificing for the good of others- that is the mark of a good leader. Itachi did it, Minato did it, and Naruto continues to do it.

These are just a few of the reasons why I think Naruto would be the better choice for Hokage than Sasuke. But, to me, they are some of the most important ones. Oh, and if you are going to throw the fact that Naruto is still only a Genin, please remember that Sasuke is only a Genin too. He defected from Konoha after the Chunin exams were over and never tried again. He just has the additional disadvantage of being an S-rank criminal.
 

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First and foremost, Hashirama isn't the one who made the mistake. He WANTED Madara to become Hokage. It was the village who decided that Hashirama would be the one to have the title. Madara didn't like what Tobirama said about his clan and the mistrust that was still rampant. He couldn't see being the 2nd-in-command after that. At that point, he thought it'd be better to leave and fight Hashirama for control.

If you want to bring the curse of hatred into this, then simply say that history will repeat itself if Sasuke doesn't become Hokage and leave it at that. There are other ways to break this cycle. For instance, Sasuke could relinquish his thought of becoming Hokage. Him saying that he wanted to become Hokage was what made this whole situation similar to Hashirama and Madara.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Naruto will become Hokage. The only way this is changing is 1) if he dies, which is highly doubtful or 2) he gives the seat to Sasuke in order to become a feudal lord or something of a higher level, which I also find highly doubtful. If you want to see the reasons why I think Naruto is the better choice then here is what I've posted in another thread similar to this one.

It was Hashirama's mistake in the sense that he should've seen Madara's defection coming after he betrayed his trust by becoming Hokage. He should've talked to Madara about his situation. And I feel as though it wasn't so much Hashirama's fault, so don't mistake me for blaming him.

And Naruto is the one who is going to break the curse. Sasuke isn't going to break it, Naruto proclaimed to Nagato that he will break the curse. He can't expect Sasuke to break it for him when he expects himself to do it.

Naruto would be a good Hokage... they both would be. This thread isn't about what I feel, or who is the better Hokage... this is who will be the Hokage. And I can easily see Naruto taking a role similar to Jiraiya, traveling around the world encouraging peace.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised. Either one can make it, but it seems Sasuke has the advantage as of now. Kishi's pen > Konoha's opinion.
 

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It was Hashirama's mistake in the sense that he should've seen Madara's defection coming after he betrayed his trust by becoming Hokage. He should've talked to Madara about his situation. And I feel as though it wasn't so much Hashirama's fault, so don't mistake me for blaming him.

And Naruto is the one who is going to break the curse. Sasuke isn't going to break it, Naruto proclaimed to Nagato that he will break the curse. He can't expect Sasuke to break it for him when he expects himself to do it.

Naruto would be a good Hokage... they both would be. This thread isn't about what I feel, or who is the better Hokage... this is who will be the Hokage. And I can easily see Naruto taking a role similar to Jiraiya, traveling around the world encouraging peace.

But Hashirama's personality is a very trusting, almost naive one. He tried so hard to talk Madara out of leaving the village. It didn't work though and they ended up fighting over it. I realize you aren't so much blaming Hashirama, but at the same time saying that he made a mistake isn't necessarily a true statement.

I agree with you on that. Naruto is going to bring peace to the ninja world and break the cycle of hatred. However, I was trying to point out that there are other ways to go about breaking the cycle of hatred that don't include Sasuke becoming the Hokage.

But, in a sense you are saying what you feel. You feel that Sasuke will be the Hokage. I feel that Naruto will be the Hokage. We agree to disagree. :)
 

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i can't see sasuke following madara's path after hearing his story from hashirama,so even if he won't be hokage he won't go rogue like madara,no real need for him to become hokage,his only goal for hokage is stopping killing for the sake of the village,which what started the curse of hatred and what put his brother through a lot,his goal is already incorporated in naruto's ideology.
not to mention naruto has a bigger goal than only being acknowleged(achieving true peace),which can't be achieved by preaching pretty words like you said,a high rank is needed to make things effective,words with no actions are meaningless.
 

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Sasuke can become a great hokage but the point is this is the new generation they should not repeat past mistake and they also don't need to do the same thing after amending it.they should do something different that their ancestors.
It would be much better if sasuke trust naruto enough to take responsibility of his precious village protection and agree to cooperate with him.
If he becomes the hokage then he will never trust anyone for the protection of the village and the hatred cycle will repeat again.
 

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Lets try and keep this short.




Sasuke has recently declared his desire to be Hokage.

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Just about everyone is against it...


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However, this is quite similar to another situation... Madara and Hashirama.

Madara wants to be Hokage; no one supports him.

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After he learned of this, he went rogue and turned "evil" once again.

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This is almost exactly what would happen to Sasuke, him giving into the curse of hatred.

Naruto declared he is going to break the curse.

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Naruto will realize what Hashirama's mistake was and correct it by making Sasuke the Hokage.

Sasuke will protect the village like he would for his brother, much like Madara would have.

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And Naruto wanted to be Hokage because he wanted to be acknowledged by all; he is already acknowledged.

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tl;dr: Naruto will give up his Hokage seat to Sasuke because if he doesn't Sasuke will give into the curse of hatred which Naruto believed he was going to break.
This is very much like my thread... I agree:cool:
 
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