[Theory] Why Sasuke loses 3 Tomoe at a time.

[Manry]

I'm pretty sure it's just a drawing error. Kishi makes so many. Personally, I won't be convincced otherwise until it's stated that he is losing tomoe and regaining them as he uses his s/t ability.

 

[ssjelf]

The fack is this???

Well then let's compare our top 5 threads right now. I'll win, I swear.

What does that have to do with anything? I have like 4 threads lol. Of course you will win. Instead of posting threads all the time I read what others have to say first.

 

[thegame]

Uhm it doesn't lose any tomoe from using Izanagi? It just "closes" forever. That is not the same.

 

[Senju Bean]

It is 3 sets of 3 tomoe. His sharinnegan wouldn't have incomplete sets. Look at the rings the tomoe are on. Separate rings.

It wasn't just me, it was spammed all over the forums. You saw them.

On the off chance you didn't, use the search bar before posting and see what others have posted. And also if you didn't see them what do you do all day on the forums beside spam the forum with your threads? If you didn't see them you are to absorbed in your own threads to read others. It is forum etiquette not to do these things you seemingly do.

I troll around sometimes, I'll admit.

But I more than make up for it with high quality theories.

And no, this thead was based off my ideas.

 

[ssjelf]

Sasuke used his eye twice last chapter so he should have 3 dots left right then why on this page

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if you zoom in close enough you will see he still have 6 dots

Not quite sure yet but let me explain something first. Sasuke used his eyes 3 times.
1. Dodging the lightning.
2. Getting to his sword.
3. Putting the sword in Madara. To me it seems he used the justu on the sword as well.
This means there are no tomoe left as evidenced by this scan.

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There are no other usages between the sword usage and that scan. Note the bottom right panel. There is a zaa zaa noise indicated. (MP translates as tap tap but I think zaa zaa fits for this reason.) This I theorize to be Sasuke's rinnegan tomoe coming back as his justu isn't izanagi but similar, therefore he can get them back somehow. He then shifts both him and Naruto to Madara and we see him again with 6 tomoe. This is just my theory so it could be wrong, but it is what explains it with the least inconsistency. Any other can of Sasuke eye is at a far distance so we can't tell how many are left. I believe it is purposefully ambiguous to disguise his technique from being to readily apparent.

 

[ssjelf]

Uhm it doesn't lose any tomoe from using Izanagi? It just "closes" forever. That is not the same.

Not that we have seen. BUT, izanami, a related justu does. Itachis eye turns back to his base eye and he loses his sharingan in it. This is the same but sasuke is reverting to his base eye as the rinnegan now, not a regular eye. Similar to how Madaras real eyes never go back to a regular eye. But I don't think it is izanagi, it is just similar in effect because izanagi and this new justu are both related to the yin creation of all things which parallels to Naruto's yang creation of all things that naruto used on guy too keep him alive.

 

[Behemoth55]

When Izangi occurs, the Sharingan loses it's vision, but more importantly,

It loses 3 tomoe. Being blind is just a side effect.

Sasuke's Rinnegan loses 3 Tomoe everytime he uses it.

No. Izanagi takes away "the light" of the eye due to a special Fuin. That's why the Sharingan can't be activated anymore. And your argumentation has been disproved by the first two Panels of chapter 674. Shortly before Sasuke used his Dõjutsu, he was shown with six Tomoe and afterwards too.

Actually, the Tankõbon should fix those errors.

 

[ssjelf]

No. Izanagi takes away "the light" of the eye due to a special Fuin. That's why the Sharingan can't be activated anymore. And your argumentation has been disproved by the first two Panels of chapter 674. Shortly before Sasuke used his Dõjutsu, he was shown with six Tomoe and afterwards too.

Actually, the Tankõbon should fix those errors.

Read my above post, it is logically explained why it seemingly is an error. It is not an error. You are misreading the chapter.

 

[Manry]

No. Izanagi takes away "the light" of the eye due to a special Fuin. That's why the Sharingan can't be activated anymore. And your argumentation has been disproved by the first two Panels of chapter 674. Shortly before Sasuke used his Dõjutsu, he was shown with six Tomoe and afterwards too.

Actually, the Tankõbon should fix those errors.

Except he has 9 Tomoe, not 6.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Not quite sure yet but let me explain something first. Sasuke used his eyes 3 times.
1. Dodging the lightning.
2. Getting to his sword.
3. To me it seems he used the justu on the sword as well.
This means there are no tomoe left as evidenced by this scan.

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There are no other usages between the sword usage and that scan. Note the bottom right panel. There is a zaa zaa noise indicated. (MP translates as tap tap but I think zaa zaa fits for this reason.) This I theorize to be Sasuke's rinnegan tomoe coming back as his justu isn't izanagi but similar, therefore he can get them back somehow. He then shifts both him and Naruto to Madara and we see him again with 6 tomoe. This is just my theory so it could be wrong, but it is what explains it with the least inconsistency. Any other can of Sasuke eye is at a far distance so we can't tell how many are left. I believe it is purposefully ambiguous to disguise his technique from being to readily apparent.

This panel

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is right after he tree his sword at madara zoom in close an what do you see? You see 6 tome picture in bottom left corner.

 

[Behemoth55]

Except he has 9 Tomoe, not 6.

Yeah, originally.

 

[Manry]

I think I already stated it in this thread, but I still think it's a drawing error. I feel like Kishi would have drawn attention to the tomoe disappearing if they were actually "ammunition" for the jutsu. Dedicating two or 3 mini-frames to showing them vanishing.

 

[Behemoth55]

Not that we have seen. BUT, izanami, a related justu does. Itachis eye turns back to his base eye and he loses his sharingan in it. This is the same but sasuke is reverting to his base eye as the rinnegan now, not a regular eye. Similar to how Madaras real eyes never go back to a regular eye. But I don't think it is izanagi, it is just similar in effect because izanagi and this new justu are both related to the yin creation of all things which parallels to Naruto's yang creation of all things that naruto used on guy too keep him alive.

That's also wrong. Itachi lost his whole "light" and didn't change to his base eye.

 

[Behemoth55]

I think I already stated it in this thread, but I still think it's a drawing error. I feel like Kishi would have drawn attention to the tomoe disappearing if they were actually "ammunition" for the jutsu. Dedicating two or 3 mini-frames to showing them vanishing.

That's it. The incoming blindness of the eye due to Izanagi/Izanami base on a special Fuin-Jutsu which takes away your eyelight. That's not the case now. An error is the most logical choice currently.

 

[Manry]

That's it. The incoming blindness of the eye due to Izanagi/Izanami base on a special Fuin-Jutsu which takes away your eyelight. That's not the case now. An error is the most logical choice currently.

Yup, it is.

 

[ssjelf]

This panel

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is right after he tree his sword at madara zoom in close an what do you see? You see 6 tome picture in bottom left corner.

At that point he had only used it once. When he dodged the lightning. He then used it twice more to put the sword in Madaras chest and to move to where he had thrown it.

 

[ssjelf]

That's also wrong. Itachi lost his whole "light" and didn't change to his base eye.

Yes he did change to base eye. you are forgetting that the eye color is reversed for edo.

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That is a base eye for an edo. So Sasuke is changing to a base eye which is his rinnegan.

 

[Blacknation]

Omg read the chapter again on page 16 you can clearly see the tomoe its not izanag its a drawing mistake

 

[Teuchi]

You are late with your theory

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[ssjelf]

Why do people like you not read any of the above posts. Read my post above that explains this. This is NOT a drawing error.