Why Sasuke is the best Kenjutsu User

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Kakashi held off Zabuza with a kunai. Is Zabuza a bad swordsman? You're using a massively slower, weaker, and less skilled Sasuke in your point. Against someone who physically outclassed him at the time. No one other than Naruto, Minato, and Itachi come close to Sasuke in speed. Debatably Bee and Ay. Out of those, it can only be argued that Naruto is faster and that minato is at his speed (note can be argued, Sasuke fans) and they have no sword fighting background. Speed matters.
 

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By your logic Obito has better reaction time than current Naruto

How did it becomes about obito and naruto besides no one has better reaction time than naruto
Ot: killer bee is better unless u give sasuke his rinnegan jutsu but straight swordsman ship killer bee stomps
 

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Madara has the best swordplay in the series....not to say that Sasuke's kenjutsu is bad...it's just not the best.
 

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Kakashi held off Zabuza with a kunai. Is Zabuza a bad swordsman? You're using a massively slower, weaker, and less skilled Sasuke in your point. Against someone who physically outclassed him at the time. No one other than Naruto, Minato, and Itachi come close to Sasuke in speed. Debatably Bee and Ay. Out of those, it can only be argued that Naruto is faster and that minato is at his speed (note can be argued, Sasuke fans) and they have no sword fighting background. Speed matters.

Notice how Kakashi was also a sharingan user? And Itachi and Sasuke too? Mm. Funny that, it's as if having complete knowledge of where you opponent is and will be will help you in a swordfight. Hm.
 

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Replace Sasuke with any other Swordsman who didn't even attempt that shit. I want to see someone fare better. The titular character got part of his soul ripped out by that mf. Also isn't that ems sasuke? You know the one that's not nearly as fast as current?
 

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I'm sorry, but that was a long time ago. Now, Sasuke could probably blitz Bee to dust.

Yes now he stomps bee neg neg diff but it's just swordsman ship not with rinnegan abilities and all killer bee without 8 tails and sasuke without rinnegan bee stomps in swordsman ship only full on fight killer bee is nothing to sasuke not even a threat
 

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EMS Sasuke and above - sure, he's better. MS and below are still inferior to Bee, though.

If we're talking about base Sasuke vs base Bee in pure swordsmanship then Bee stomps, unless Sasuke is allowed his Rikudou chakra, in which case Sasuke stomps.
 

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Using OP's logic

Gai uses Taijutsu
Madara uses Taijutsu
Madara is stronger

MADARA IS BETTER AT TAIJUTSU!
 

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Hebi Sasuke sword blitzed 1000 fodders not a drop of blood. Not much of a feat but if we're using fodderstomping to validate skill, he has the better feat.
 

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No look at my reasons. It has nothing to do with Sasuke being stronger. It has to do with him physically outclassing all others in the category, no ninjutsu needed. He blitzes anyone except those listed, who aren't swordsman.
 

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With what kenjutsu training?

Kenjutsu training wasn't that significant. Blitzing to dust has nothing to do with kenjutsu training BTW. It depends on speed and reaction time, both of which have tremendously improved since MS Sasuke, thanks to improved tracking capabilities of EMS plus Ameno Blitz (Rinnegan).
 

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Yeah, I would presume so, since It has never been shown anyone with more kenjutsu skills than him.
 

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You don't get it. If Bee can't react to Sasuke movement then he can't hit him or dodge and he isn't better at Kenjutsu. If you can't keep up with someone, are you a better taijutsu users?
 

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Purely in sword fight, Sasuke will die to Bee, however should powerups be allowed like Sharingan or Rinnegan then of course Sasuke will win. But the fact still stays, Bee is better at pure swordsmanship.
 

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Too bad Sasuke never used 2 swords instead of 1 in the manga.
[video=youtube;h47UsT-xBF4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h47UsT-xBF4[/video]
 

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You don't get it. If Bee can't react to Sasuke movement then he can't hit him or dodge and he isn't better at Kenjutsu. If you can't keep up with someone, are you a better taijutsu users?

Yes but don't act like a power-up like a Sharingan doesn't lend you game-winning powers. One sharingan let Kakashi go toe to toe with Hidan and Zabuza with nothing but a small kunai. Itachi punked Sasuke's swordmanship with a Kunai also. It's all about the eyes.

If Mangetsu has to use a normal sword then Sasuke doesn't get to use his special big boy eyes, simple as :')
 

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Purely in sword fight, Sasuke will die to Bee, however should powerups be allowed like Sharingan or Rinnegan then of course Sasuke will win. But the fact still stays, Bee is better at pure swordsmanship.

Post-Rikudou base Sasuke is easily still better without using his eyes, unless you also consider Rikudou chakra to not be a part of pure swordsmanship, which I can understand.
 
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