Why Sasuke cannot suppress Naruto's Bijuu,

[Gagster]

I didn't want to make this thread, I thought it was obvious why he couldn't. But Necromancer4276 insisted so here we are.
And yes I know there's already a thread exactly like this.

Alright, to start off first you have to learn some advanced concepts here.
That is, what is "Mindscape"/"Soul", what is a seal,and what is the special plane only Jins and Bijuu can enter.
This is being in someones mind/Soul.

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Or this

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This is being inside the a jins seal.
Notice the giant fcking gate.

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And then there's this, the separate astral planes which only Jins and Biju can go to.

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The last of which has nothing to do with this thread at all.

The Sharingan only allows only allows users to SEE inside the seal.
It has no special abilities against Jin's besides casting genjutsu on them like normal people ( Aside from Perfect Jins of course)

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Actually suppressing the Kyuubi once inside the seal is no feat at all, and doesn't require a sharingan.

I'm sure a hyuga could do the exact same thing.Probably better too.

So the Sharingan lets you merely see inside the Seal, something a seal master or a Jin could do easily.
But here's why it would be useless against Perfect Jins, especially BM Naruto.

THERE IS NO SEAL

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Boom, gone.

Naruto isn't keeping the Biju behind a GAINT FCKING GATE anymore.

No more awesome seal Tatau

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There's nothing for the Sharingan to see inside, leading to there being no possible way for them to get in.

And as for Killer Bee, who still had a seal and was a perfect Jin, we have no idea what his seal looks like on the inside, but I'm sure he could just fight off whoever managed to get inside, or even open it slightly and have the 8-tails do it itself.

I didn't even feel like putting a cool gif. at the end of this thread.

 

[Dantee]

It's the same place. Sasuke IT's all his pets. GG

 

[Gagster]

It's the same place. Sasuke IT's all his pets. GG

Fanfic section is that way -------->

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Cool gif:

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[Shadow Phantasm]

The seal doesn't matter,Madara mind controlled Kurama who was free at the time.Sasuke could theoretically control a few bijuu only though.

 

[The Necromancer]

There's no reason a sharingan user can't simply cast a genjutsu upon the bijuu inside of out of the seal.

Obito easily cast a genjutsu on Kurama while pulling himself out of Kushina's crumbling Seal.

 

[NukaCola]

If he could supress the chakra of a bijuu, the why he don't use it against Killer B?
OT: I agree

 

[Akame]

Whatever makes you happy :/

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Great thread. Very well done Mr.Gagter. +1 rep

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

If could supress the chakra of a bijju, the why he don't use it against Killer B?
OT: I agree

It probably had something to do with the fact that Killer Bee was a Perfect Jinchuriki.That or Sasuke didn't have the chance to do so.

 

[Sageflash]

The seal doesn't matter,Madara mind controlled Kurama who was free at the time.Sasuke could theoretically control a few bijuu only though.

It's not mind control, it's a genjutsu. A genjutsu which doesn't not work against Perfect Jinchuriki.

Madara controlled a Kurama with no jinchuriki, and thus unable to break the link. With him inside Naruto and them on good terms, that is no longer a possibility. Simple as that. Not to mention he can't break through the sealing; he was only able to subdue the chakra leaking out of Naruto through the seal being worn done over time.

 

[iFlowMotion]

Necromancer is right though...

 

[SageModeActivate]

I think Killer Bee proved everything you said and Killer Bee probably has his seal wide open so there's no need for the seal dimension to exist for him either.

 

[The Necromancer]

It's not mind control, it's a genjutsu. A genjutsu which doesn't not work against Perfect Jinchuriki.

Madara controlled a Kurama with no jinchuriki, and thus unable to break the link. With Naruto inside him and them on good terms, that is no longer a possibility. Simple as that.

Genjutsu literally is mind control. Genjutsu work on Bijuu, as never has it been shown that a jinchuriki can break bijuu out of genjutsu. Even Minato had to use a contract seal to break Obito's genjutsu.

 

[frozen5]

There's no reason a sharingan user can't simply cast a genjutsu upon the bijuu inside of out of the seal.

Obito easily cast a genjutsu on Kurama while pulling himself out of Kushina's crumbling Seal.

because without a seal there is no way the sharingan user will be able to get access to the bijuu

 

[Gagster]

The seal doesn't matter,Madara mind controlled Kurama who was free at the time.Sasuke could theoretically control a few bijuu only though.

Where not talking about the Kyubi outside, that's a different story.

There's no reason a sharingan user can't simply cast a genjutsu upon the bijuu inside of out of the seal.

Obito easily cast a genjutsu on Kurama while pulling himself out of Kushina's crumbling Seal.

There is a reason, because their already using the sharingan to see inside the seal.
And show post a manga scan of Obito using genjutsu on a sealed Kyubi.

 

[WolfHaley]

1. Almost stopped reading at anyone can do it, it doesn't need Sharingan and that Hyugas could do it better.

2. We don't know how all seals work. We know Naruto's has a key, effectively, Naruto has a key that allows him to open the gate and let the Bijuu's power unleash. The issue here isn't if the seal is there or not, it's still there, just open. The issue is, can Sasuke push the Bijuu back into the seal, and keep it shut? Ideally, yes, but now the question becomes can Sasuke's suppression be everlasting, or can Naruto just open the seal again. Can Sasuke place a new lock, or just close the lock that's already there, which Naruto has the key for. And quite frankly, we just don't know. At this point in time, we don't have enough information to say.

I could say he can, you could say he can't. We'd be equally right, and equally wrong, because both of us are just guessing.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's not mind control, it's a genjutsu. A genjutsu which doesn't not work against Perfect Jinchuriki.

Madara controlled a Kurama with no jinchuriki, and thus unable to break the link. With him inside Naruto and them on good terms, that is no longer a possibility. Simple as that. Not to mention he can't break through the sealing; he was only able to subdue the chakra leaking out of Naruto through the seal being worn done over time.

Yagura was controlled with a genjutsu and he was considered to be a perfect jin.The immunity only works if the host is put in a genjutsu and the bijuu can break them out of it,genjutsu the bijuu however and the results are likely different.

 

[The Necromancer]

Where not talking about the Kyubi outside, that's a different story.



There is a reason, because their already using the sharingan to see inside the seal.
And show post a manga scan of Obito using genjutsu on a sealed Kyubi.

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Obito not only finished breaking her seal, but also placed a genjutsu upon the Kyuubi.

 

[~MC117~]

I didn't read everything but it doesn't matter, naruto stomps sasuke, only sasuke wankers like Dantee would disagree.