Why Sarada cares about her clan?

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And still they where being used as host to boost the military might of konoha,yet no one is blatant about the injustice and betrayal they went through,yet the Uchiha who got what was coming to them deserves revenge more than the Uzumaki.
Still don't get how the Uchiha got what was coming to them, they were discriminated against and were pushed into a corner by the corrupt system and hateful citizens of Konoha. The slightest bit of resistance got them killed.

And Naruto still wishes to protect that system, everything Shelke said was the truth.

I believe that the Uzumaki were wronged without a doubt, but I refuse to derail the Uchiha. I'm not going to conform to biases, both clans were wronged but it seems as though your bias is keeping you from seeing that.
 

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Still don't get how the Uchiha got what was coming to them, they were discriminated against and were pushed into a corner by the corrupt system and hateful citizens of Konoha. The slightest bit of resistance got them killed.

And Naruto still wishes to protect that system, everything Shelke said was the truth.

I believe that the Uzumaki were wronged without a doubt, but I refuse to derail the Uchiha. I'm not going to conform to biases, both clans were wronged but it seems as though your bias is keeping you from seeing that.
To protect the ninja system is to protect something that killed children daily, destroyed a lot of characters happiness and integrity.
The system still isn't democratic and above all, it is militaristic (something that remembers me of dictatorship). It will never appeal to ethics and justice, but strenght.
 

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Still don't get how the Uchiha got what was coming to them, they were discriminated against and were pushed into a corner by the corrupt system and hateful citizens of Konoha. The slightest bit of resistance got them killed.

And Naruto still wishes to protect that system, everything Shelke said was the truth.

I believe that the Uzumaki were wronged without a doubt, but I refuse to derail the Uchiha. I'm not going to conform to biases, both clans were wronged but it seems as though your bias is keeping you from seeing that.
The Uzumaki never revolted against konoha,the uchiha wanted to
So how am i being biased?
If anything,Tobirama secluded them from the entirety of konoha to avoid another Madara,because lets face it,the Uchiha is a clan of crazy phsycho's...I believe tobirama understood them more,..but still doesnt change the fact that the Uchiha where ready to cause a civil war...
Naruto is not protecting any system dude!..hes mainly improving the system,everyone lost people important to them..not only sasuke or any other..so this is a moot point,the circle of hatred is life consuming,Naruto removed that...
I believed Naruto would have changed alot in the ninja world ,kishi is just inconsistent about showing us.
 
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The Uzumaki never revolted against konoha,the uchiha wanted to
So how am i being biased?
If anything,Tobirama secluded them from the entirety of konoha to avoid another Madara,because lets face it,the Uchiha is a clan of crazy phsycho's...I believe tobirama understood them more,..but still doesnt change the fact that the Uchiha where ready to cause a civil war...
Naruto is not protecting any system dude!..hes mainly improving the system,everyone lost people important to them..not only sasuke or any other..so this is a moot point,the circle of hatred is life consuming,Naruto removed that...
I believed Naruto would have changed alot in the ninja world ,kishi is just inconsistent about showing us.
Almost everyone lost someone close because of the shinobi system, and still Naruto preserves it. Your argument is flippant and full of lies man.
 

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So far there's nothing to show that uchiha cares about her clan she could just see it as her family name she cares more about being hokage then that even sasuke isn't obsessed with the uchiha anymore
 

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Almost everyone lost someone close because of the shinobi system, and still Naruto preserves it. Your argument is flippant and full of lies man.
Bro,its a SHINOBi world,people kill for Jobs,even kids are trained to be soldiers..
Naruto has salvaged what remains of Naruto verse..
All the villages are in corporation now,Naruto is the one keeping it all together..
If youve seen boruto,you'd know that in Naruto's tenure as Hokage.,peace is much more preserved..
Compared to this,your boy sasukes's plan was full of stupidity and repitition of this same circle of hatred..
Even Madz plan was way better than Sasuke's,excpet the turning into zetsu part...
 

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When Naruto dies, so will his system.

Humans always find a way to start a war, the only reason as to why the shinobi world is cooperating is because Naruto and Sasuke would easily stop them if they did otherwise. Once those two die, things will go right back to "normal".
 

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I feel so sad when I think about it. It is the feeling of injustice that the Uchiha weren't avenged.
The Uchiha were avenged.

1. Itachi was killed
2. Danzo was killed
3. Obito was killed in the war by Kaguya
4. Hiruzen had already died long before any of the above 3 at the hands of Orochimaru.

All 4 main players involved in the Uchiha's downfall have been eradicated. Killing anyone else would just be murdering innocents.
 

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The Uchiha were avenged.

1. Itachi was killed
2. Danzo was killed
3. Obito was killed in the war by Kaguya
4. Hiruzen had already died long before any of the above 3 at the hands of Orochimaru.

All 4 main players involved in the Uchiha's downfall have been eradicated. Killing anyone else would just be murdering innocents.
God bless you brother...i really dont know the avenging these snappy fanboys are claiming...
 

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When Naruto dies, so will his system.

Humans always find a way to start a war, the only reason as to why the shinobi world is cooperating is because Naruto and Sasuke would easily stop them if they did otherwise. Once those two die, things will go right back to "normal".
If the peace can last as long as Naruto is Alive,thats good,iits a step,which means peace can also be achievedand steps can,and have been taken to make it last...
 

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God bless you brother...i really dont know the avenging these snappy fanboys are claiming...
If the entire Uchiha Clan get's destroyed, then Konoha should be destroyed. Eye for an eye.

I'm not saying innocents should be killed, because then that would just be Sasuke going down to Konoha's pathetic level. Just destabilize the village and stop anyone from rebuilding it.
 

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If the entire Uchiha Clan get's destroyed, then Konoha should be destroyed. Eye for an eye.

I'm not saying innocents should be killed, because then that would just be Sasuke going down to Konoha's pathetic level. Just destabilize the village and stop anyone from rebuilding it.
God! Your so stupid its obvious...are you drunk or something?
What would destabilizing the village help solve,it will only make konoha freeto be looted and other villages will fight against each other to annex konoha,and innocents will still die! ,thereby causing another circle of hatred...
So dude,what the hell are they avenginging again? You do t see naruto going all Emo when he found out konoha didnt help when his WHOLE village Uzshiogakure was destroyed,irrespective of sasukes small clan?
Did you see him blowing a fuse..?
Alas sauce fans will be sauce fans...
 

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One Clan is worth an entire Village's life? IMO the people who should of died for the Uchiha Clan's destruction would be Danzou and the elite.

Otherwise it's just blind murder.
 

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That clan was one of the main reasons the entire village was founded in the first place.


You do t see naruto going all Emo when he found out konoha didnt help when his WHOLE village Uzshiogakure was destroyed,irrespective of sasukes small clan?

I didn't know clan size determined what kind of justice your clan would get if slaughtered for no reason, this is quite the epiphany. And if I remember correctly, Naruto never learned about his clan being destroyed, and even if he did. I doubt he would get back at Konoha for abandoning his clan. Naruto is a mindless drone that is loyal to his village no matter what, just like Itachi.

To be specific, I believe the Hidden Whirlpool village sent messages to Konoha and all the messenger birds were intercepted by Danzo.
 

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That clan was one of the main reasons the entire village was founded in the first place.





I didn't know clan size determined what kind of justice your clan would get if slaughtered for no reason, this is quite the epiphany. And if I remember correctly, Naruto never learned about his clan being destroyed, and even if he did. I doubt he would get back at Konoha for abandoning his clan. Naruto is a mindless drone that is loyal to his village no matter what, just like Itachi.

To be specific, I believe the Hidden Whirlpool village sent messages to Konoha and all the messenger birds were intercepted by Danzo.
Damn,fanfictions at best...how did danzo intercept them?
Oh..and when we are talking about relevance,Naruto's is much more than sasuke's,still you dont see anyone becoming avengers or so to speak...
Yes the uchiha were founding memebers but planning a coup was no proper way to gain importance...i guess yhey are mindless drones tho,who cant farthom the ramifications of their actions...
A coup would eaken konoha,and it will be wiped off the planet.
 

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That clan was one of the main reasons the entire village was founded in the first place.





I didn't know clan size determined what kind of justice your clan would get if slaughtered for no reason, this is quite the epiphany. And if I remember correctly, Naruto never learned about his clan being destroyed, and even if he did. I doubt he would get back at Konoha for abandoning his clan. Naruto is a mindless drone that is loyal to his village no matter what, just like Itachi.

To be specific, I believe the Hidden Whirlpool village sent messages to Konoha and all the messenger birds were intercepted by Danzo.
Whiteboy,your not rooted in reality friend,just take a vacation or something..
 

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Oh..and when we are talking about relevance,Naruto's is much more than sasuke's,still you dont see anyone becoming avengers or so to speak...

I don't know man, if a village was the reason as to why innocent members of my family died for the actions of a few guilty ones, I would be an avenger. I don't know why you're praising them for caring more about their villages than their own family but I guess that's what happens when that kind of narrative is sold as good within the story.


Yes the uchiha were founding memebers but planning a coup was no proper way to gain importance...i guess yhey are mindless drones tho,who cant farthom the ramifications of their actions...

Sure, a coup wasn't the way to do it. But Konoha is behind some pretty evil stuff as well, do they deserve to be eliminated or what? They used the Hidden Rain as a battle-ground and almost starved an entire village of people to death with their petty war interests with the Hidden Stone.

I don't really know if planning a rebellion against your oppressors makes you a mindless drone, but if that's how things are in the Naruto world then fine.
 

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He embraced Will of Fire and basically showed everyone that you should lie your way to the seat, make tons of promises. And extreme fascism is so cool, the dark side of totalitarianism is awesome, mindless slaughter is totally okay as long as the government does it, otherwise, it's evil yo! Killing children and civilians is the way into the future as long as the rest can be saved, the people you hire for terrorism are evil, the ones offering them funds are just innocent victims of the military systems and if these Nations' waged wars leave orphans behind? Then **** them! The Nations should send in more ninjas to destabilize their governments. And if they fight back? Shit, man, that's so evil, messed up and so ... so evil! They should be obliterated, their ideologies extinguished so that this form of governmental setup can thrive!

If anyone is victimized by the system, they should never seek justice. In fact, those ****ers should be weeded out, slaughtered and dealt with. Oh yeah, and, there is no need to fix the Hyuga issue, reduce Shinobi numbers, introduce better laws to safeguard everyone's rights and there is abolutely no need to aid poor villages like Rain who were rent asunder for Konoha's ambitions. That is the kind of Hokage Naruto is.

As quoted by Shelke
 

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That clan was one of the main reasons the entire village was founded in the first place.
But you're basically saying that the entire Village would have to be killed for the murder of the Uchiha Clan, when we know full and well that Konohagakure expanded far beyond just Senju and Uchiha.

Nor would your point in accordance to supporting the Clan itself make any sense if you're willing to kill innocent lives just because you want to. That's no better than Danzou himself.

The only people who should have died, would be the people responsible. That's the problem with Danzou's line of thinking, he was willing to kill the entire Clan just because a large group of them were thinking about having a coup.

Despite the fact that innocent Uchiha like Sasuke existed.
 
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