Why Sakura's speech in Chapter 630 can be considered one of the most impactful.

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Sakura' words were indeed strong, IMO, she needed a good courage speech to push her along. Personally, i liked her speech moreso Hinata's; She showed me why i should see her as Heroine- i hope this continues.

Erm, i'll comment on more later, i have a few thoughts but not enough time or it'll end up being too long haha

Nice post tho.
Completely agree, I liked her speech alot more than Hinatas. As far as Im concerned she IS the only heroine in Naruto. Hinata might be cleaning Narutos apartment but Sakura is the one and only heroine that Naruto needs.
 

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I would have expected an mod not to be sarcastic and be the bigger person.
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Yep I liked her speech.
Did sarcasm kill? It often has a role as comedic relief. But meh, I digress.

I love sakura, and i don't particularly like hinata.

That being said, i do feel like sakura does need more development. She has a long way to go to match the level of main character sasuke and naruto are. I'm banking on her getting (hashirama's) slug sage mode.
If you look at the power-wise department of the manga than, yes, you could say she needs development.
But if you look at the mentally-grown characters, than dare-I-say she's one of the best developed.

Wow that was a long thread, probably missed something, but it seems to me, that you are just as one-sided as most youtube reviewers. Of course it's hard not to have an opinion. I wouldn't be able to it either, I guess, though I probably am one of the people thinking, Sakura's character potential was sort of wasted by Kishi, and now she is just gaining a little unimportant screen time, so Kishi can prolong his chapters and "satisfy" some fans on that part.
I am not one-sided, I was only speaking about a certain thing. Of course I could've made an essay about the meanings behind Kakashi's talk with Obito as well, but that seems to be on everyone's lips, doesn't it?
What do you define by character potential, if you don't mind me asking?
Just curious.

That said, it also seems more like a thread trying to defend Sakura, and that you are mad at the people, who dislike her and call her useless. To be frankly it's an opinion based statement, which you probably can't change with this thread. Yes medical ninjutsu is difficult, but not rare, and not many will see it as anything special, unless it's Tsunade's regeneration technique... This opinion you can't change. Besides, the "hate" for Sakura, is because Kishi made her so weak towards Sasuke.
I am not trying to defend Sakura, I am showing a part of her role, meaning and such in the manga. Different terms. Mad? Sorry if I disappoint by saying no. It's not like I don't hear this every time. I don't go with the herd, usually, so no, worng again.
It's not an opinion based statement, if it would have been, I wouldn't have had manga panels to do so. It's more of a factual opinion, given how everything in this manga connects. You just have to be observant enought to see.
It seems like you didn't get my point about medical ninjutsu. And it's an opinion based on childish misbehavior, if you ask me, as all-through-out manga can prove wrong to the ones who call her different ways. Useless? She's not. The fact that she doesn't have all this arsenal of flashy jutsus it's more of a matter of personal preferences. But that doesn't make her useless.
As for the hate for Sakura... I wonder how many of you know from where this whole madness started. I bet you don't, because you just went with the flow. But that's another thing.


Also I don't agree with the titling statement. Her speech wont do much. Surely it made the alliance make one last effort before they would die, but future chapters may reveal, that Kishi once again, will take screen time away from the alliance, and use it on some long dead hokage's, who will take the main part of the fight against the Juubi and Madara. The fact that she made the remaining part of the alliance believe in themselves, is of course great, but it's not like it'd made a difference, is it? The ones truly dominating the entire fight is Naruto and Bee. Naruto knew the hokage's + Sasuke were coming. That is why he spent all his chakra defending the alliance till they would arrive.
Her speech already did. Encouraged the whole Shinobi Alliance, or at least, the remaining ones, and made them fight. But it isn't about what much it will do, this was about the implications and meanings behind it, which, it seems you didn't get it.
How should we know Naruto knew since nothing like this was shown to us? Plus, it seems you don't know Naruto's character that much... But, I'd rather not get into it.


Also if you compare to other big "speeches" (lets exclude all of Naruto's speeches, as almost no speeches for obvious reasons can compare to them), I can agree, since to be frank, we don't have many big speeches in front of many people in the manga. So yeah it has great impact, but in the eyes of fans, it wont reach many of the golden speeches with much less people though.
In the eyes of the fans... well, you do hold some truth there. In the eyes of the fans probably means nothing, however, in the eyes of those who truly read and analyze this manga will probably mean. And a lot. Because, as I already said, this speech holds many great implications and allusions at the overall manga and it's meaning/message to be conveyed.

Thank you for this, I always seem to be the only one on Sakuras side lol. I dont understand how people hate on her when shes one of the better shinobi of the K11 and one of the greatest kunoichi weve ever seen. Just because she doesnt have giant swirling chakra bombs or shoot fire out of her eyes doesnt mean shes "useless". As Kakashi said she is very likely to surpass Tsunade, one of the legendary Sannin, and shes only 16.
Don't mention it, dear! :) Well, as always, 2 things: a name + a bandwagon effect. That's all.
As for the other stuff, like always, there are things people missed when it comes to her character. :)

sorry to what I have to say but even if it is a speech sakura didnt developed her character is that because she always think about sasuke even when he try to kill her she had two chance to kill him but no hinata on the other hand when she got out from her shyness and was able to talk to naruto making him realize neji true words meaning that is a developed character until sakura stop punching other people for every action they take and try to understand other people and realize that no every thing in the world is sasuke than we will have some character development like Ino did Ino realize punching other people for every action they take and not try to understand other people and realize that no every thing in the world is sasuke is only childish and stupid that is a character development
Did she think about Sasuke during this speech? I doubt it.
After they left Sasuke, did she think about him? No, she was only thinking about Naruto.
The only time she was shown to be thinking about Sasuke was in chapter 540. And I am not here for pairing drama.
And why do you bring Hinata in here? Why the need to compare? I really don't get people like you...
 
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Meanwhile, she is in the background healing Naruto, just being a fodder........ Your point?
Sakura is all talk and no action really, just wait and see!!!
You...you just said healing Naruto...while being a fodder...you just created an oxymoron in one sentence.
She won't do a thing once the Sasuke and their team arrives and if by any chance she gets infatuated towards the guy who tried to kill her 3 times, didn't give a sh!t about her, then YES! Sakura would truly conclude IMO at that point be the worst main character in the history of shounen manga!
She probably won't. Unlike Karin, she's going to force Sasuke some grievance time to make up for the terrible things he's done to the team. It's going to be quite a while before Sasuke is fully trusted again.

until sakura stop punching other people for every action they take and try to understand other people and realize that no every thing in the world is sasuke than we will have some character development like Ino did Ino realize punching other people for every action they take and not try to understand other people and realize that no every thing in the world is sasuke is only childish and stupid that is a character development
It's been provided before how Sakura and Tsunade's "punching people" is a running gag in the manga and the sole purpose is to generate comedy within a shounin.

If you read the OP further, you can see how this ties well into Sakura's dynamic development :)
 
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Sakura: 'Grow a pair, you lot'

Meanwhile, she is in the background healing Naruto, just being a fodder........ Your point?
Sakura is all talk and no action really, just wait and see!!!

She won't do a thing once the Sasuke and their team arrives and if by any chance she gets infatuated towards the guy who tried to kill her 3 times, didn't give a sh!t about her, then YES! Sakura would truly conclude IMO at that point be the worst main character in the history of shounen manga!
Lol "no action", shes healing the most important character in this war atm. She's not a combat type shes not supposed to kick ass shes supposed to keep everyone alive. (which shes done an amazing job of so far)
 

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Are we going to play what-if situations now?
What do you mean by that?

You trying to say that Sakura's speech in the latest chapter
considered one of the most impactful?(and is this even a word?)

Yet if Hinata didn't give her speech, Sakura would been blown to kingdom come
because of Obito convincing Naruto to join them

So

Hinata's speech = still has the most Impact

Sakura's speech is still nothing girl :yeah::yeah::yeah:
 

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What do you mean by that?

You trying to say that Sakura's speech in the latest chapter
considered one of the most impactful?(and is this even a word?)

Yet if Hinata didn't give her speech, Sakura would been blown to kingdom come
because of Obito convincing Naruto to join them

So

Hinata's speech = still has the most Impact

Sakura's speech is still nothing girl :yeah::yeah::yeah:
Thank you!
In my opinion, she should just die off the manga, the only true way to be our heroine. Maybe she will be like Rin, but this time she is giving her life for the manga.
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What do you mean by that?

You trying to say that Sakura's speech in the latest chapter
considered one of the most impactful?(and is this even a word?)

Yet if Hinata didn't give her speech, Sakura would been blown to kingdom come
because of Obito convincing Naruto to join them

So

Hinata's speech = still has the most Impact
The fallacy of chronological importance strikes again! Because Hinata's speech was first and helped Naruto, Sakura's speech that helped the entire shinobi alliance but came later is completely useless! But let's not forget how Sakura healed Hinata before Hinata made her speech, Ohh hoh hoh hoh hoh! I got ye gooot.
Fangirlism to the max, i saw your tumblr girl.....you need to calm it down.
This is wrong. Just completely wrong. One of the worst fallacies out there is the Ad Hominem fallacy. You can't debate effectively if you resort to these measures.
 

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I expect a lot of people to begin the 'didn't read' crap. Anyways.

Thank you for taking the time out to make this thread, i always appreciate them. You are totally right about youtube reviewers, last chapter i had seen reviews from the two people i watch and one of them literally skipped over her entire panel time. Not even a mention of her healing Naruto. It's all about personal preference and flashy jutsu for them.

Whenever i read your threads, i feel like a very superficial Sakura fan in comparison to you and the insight you can give on her character. If people who doubted her heroine status were to sit and read this, more than likely they would come to understand, heroine of hero isn't solely on who can 'solo everyone' or got a possible pairing, strength is a totally different thing.

I'm glad you have pointed out to me that Sakura has come to terms with how things are and she will definitely always be there to help Naruto when she can the best she can.
 

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The first third of the wall is about reviewers. And you are practically saying that none of them (how many are they? 10? 20? ) thought that Sakura's speech is of any importance since now the top guns will be arriving thus making the alliance completely useless. Correct?
Yet then you go on elaborating on the importance of Sakura's speech (I am gonna be honest I speed read that and it was quite poetic at times LOL but whatever she is your fav).

So you are saying that although they have a very valid argument, they are all wrong and you are right? Something's wrong here...
 

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@Chatte no she lie and even if she not that mean her character is worse go and rewatch sakura confess to naruto she only fall in love with naruto after he become a hero that mean if you become famous than I love you but if you aren't famous I don't love you but hinata on the other hand she loved naruto from before he become a hero when he wasn't famous even after the confessed she was still thinking about sasuke remember when a shonbi confess to sakura during the war and she rejected him and told her I bet your boyfriend is great she wasn't thinking of naruto but sasuke
 

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The fallacy of chronological importance strikes again! Because Hinata's speech was first and helped Naruto, Sakura's speech that helped the entire shinobi alliance but came later is completely useless! But let's not forget how Sakura healed Hinata before Hinata made her speech, Ohh hoh hoh hoh hoh! I got ye gooot.


This is wrong. Just completely wrong. One of the worst fallacies out there is the Ad Hominem fallacy. You can't debate effectively if you resort to these measures.
Im not even debating wth. Where was i trying to debate because i dont recall me doing that.
 

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Good job. Don't worry about half of these opinion because 98% of the people on here can't use proper grammar and write a lot while keeping the main focus on her speech. Well done. I read all of it. Makes me see Sakura in a new light.
 

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The first third of the wall is about reviewers. And you are practically saying that none of them (how many are they? 10? 20? ) thought that Sakura's speech is of any importance since now the top guns will be arriving thus making the alliance completely useless. Correct?
Yet then you go on elaborating on the importance of Sakura's speech (I am gonna be honest I speed read that and it was quite poetic at times LOL but whatever she is your fav).

So you are saying that although they have a very valid argument, they are all wrong and you are right? Something's wrong here...
She is saying that the majority of reviewers left out the importance of Sakuras speech in their review. She may say ALL reviewers but cmon, be smart, its obviously not all of them. This is her opinion and nothing else, I never read "Im right and everyone else is wrong". Nothing is wrong here other than everyone giving Chatte a hard time for her OPINION.
 

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Im not even debating wth. Where was i trying to debate because i dont recall me doing that.
That part at the bottom was for someone else who decided to not remark about the thread at all and just decided to take a stab at Chatte's Tumblr instead. I'm sure the post was included in it, but if not, I apologize.
 

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Damn way too many people in the Naruto fan base that look down on Sakura as useless but can never back it up. The only thing they say is that she's "annoying" or "weak". Where in the Naruto universe has Sakura ever completely let her self know she's weak? She was never annoying, just confused and in love. She's defiantly not weak seeing how she defeated Sasori, someone who took down the third kazekage.
she is strong already and a good character but their was never a character development from her and that when I hate in a character
 

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She is saying that the majority of reviewers left out the importance of Sakuras speech in their review. She may say ALL reviewers but cmon, be smart, its obviously not all of them. This is her opinion and nothing else, I never read "Im right and everyone else is wrong". Nothing is wrong here other than everyone giving Chatte a hard time for her OPINION.
No no, trust me, there is not a single one of them that thought it was important for the particular reason I mentioned and I am pretty sure she means what I said. If she doesn't let her reply unless you are a psychic.
 

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On your rant about the reviewers part:
Why don't you say that on the youtube community since those reviews are being made there?
On the Sakura's impact bla,bla,bla part:
Sakura's speech came at this point only to place her in the map because Sasuke is coming to the battlefield.She had almost no part since the main battle with Juubi began and she remembered that she can actually do something in this war and she decided to heal Naruto.Even her position next to Naruto indicates that she reappeared to the map due to Sasuke's return.
On the shinobi development bla,bla,bla part:
You do have a point here and this would have been admirable,if it took place 200 chapters sooner.Almost all K-11 has found her shinobi way and the only one who seemed to be left behind was Sakura.So now why should we, as readers be amazed or appreciate a reaction like that?Once again her development came a little tooo late.There're other shinobis that did what you claim Sakura has (combine the rules and the codes of the shinobi without fully suppressing their emotions) way better than she did.An excellent example of this case is Naruto and Kakashi.
Overall:Lay off the drugs Chatte.
 
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