Why Sakura's speech in Chapter 630 can be considered one of the most impactful.

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Hinata's speech was more impactful
How? How did it further make the Shinobi Alliance to move forward? No, it didn't. While, yes, Hinata is to be credited, I think everyone forgets the fact that the merits here for everything go to Neji. Hinata was the connection. Why do you think the line of "Did you understood what Neji-nii-san meant?"
But no, of course, because what everyone sees here is pairings and for the sake of it, they downgrade other characters to the point of non-existance.
The second Naruto was out of Kyuubi chakra, every shinobi out there chikened, hence, Sakura telling them to grow a pair. Even Hinata who had previously gave a speech to Naruto seemed to loose faith, by the way her facial expression was drawn, yet, the one who didn't was Sakura.
Nothing with Hinata, she does have her merits, but the way you seem to downgrade Sakura's one makes me fairly believe that you had little to no understanding with those speeches.

That was actually really really long, however i am not going to knock you if you are passionate about sakura.

Thing is, Kishi doesnt give her the air time. She was trained by one of the legendary Sennin yet she still has not been upgraded sufficiently... she could have at least been given a summon as both Naruto and Sasuke have summons.

I have always preferred Hinata but i'd say to you that if this is how you feel then good for you for standing your ground. It's a shame kishi doesnt seem to develop female characters sufficiently.
Everything in this manga isn't about air time and power-scales. This is one of the things the majority of Naruto fandom didn't get. Development doesn't consist in flashy jutsus, development consists on how much a character has grown, mentally, most. And the fact that he did gave her this speech, proves that Kishi isn't sexist. He's just culturally misunderstood. Not to mention about outer influences.
Hinata's speech was more impactful
Yes, I know, you read nothing. Just raising your post count.

HOLY SHIT!!!! I never thought anyone could write a wall of text out of Sakura's few words that meant practically nothing except for that Naruto is willing to sacrifice everything for his beloved bonds and even the random fodder #29395
Congratulations for getting about little to nothing from it, then.

trust me i red it
but still don't deny the fact

that if Hinata didn't give that speech

Naruto is in the dark side now
Are we going to play what-if situations now?
 
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Can't read all of it at the moment, as I'm working. However I think her screen time is relevant and it foreshadows Tsunade's return to the manga once again. I also think her screen time signifies the upcoming Reunion of Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura. Her relevance beyond that is significant in the possibility of a power up or perhaps an important role.

We see already how she has managed to motivate a some what hopeless shinobi alliance with her speech. We'll see. I will get back to this when I finish work.
 

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How? How did it further make the Shinobi Alliance to move forward? No, it didn't. While, yes, Hinata is to be credited, I think everyone forgets the fact that the merits here for everything go to Neji. Hinata was the connection. Why do you think the line of "Did you understood what Neji-nii-san meant?"
But no, of course, because what everyone sees here is pairings and for the sake of it, they downgrade other characters to the point of non-existance.
The second Naruto was out of Kyuubi chakra, every shinobi out there chikened, hence, Sakura telling them to grow a pair. Even Hinata who had previously gave a speech to Naruto seemed to loose faith, by the way her facial expression was drawn, yet, the one who didn't was Sakura.
Nothing with Hinata, she does have her merits, but the way you seem to downgrade Sakura's one makes me fairly believe that you had little to no understanding with those speeches.



Everything in this manga isn't about air time and power-scales. This is one of the things the majority of Naruto fandom didn't get. Development doesn't consist in flashy jutsus, development consists on how much a character has grown, mentally, most. And the fact that he did gave her this speech, proves that Kishi isn't sexist. He's just culturally misunderstood. Not to mention about outer influences.
Plz tell when you stop jerking to Sakura....if it wasnt for hinata Sakura would be dead since naruto would have given up and wouldn't have saved sakura
 
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listen I am not a sakura haters she came a long way since she graduated from the ninja academy in power skill as medical nin and her speech was great in the latest chapter but what I hate her personally how she always punch naruto without a reason she lied and was toying with naruto feeling at the 5 kage summit but everything is ok
 

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This isn't Sakura verse Hinata guys :| I might dislike Sakura as a character, but I recognise a good thread when I see one, regardless of the topic, so I'm ashamed at you lemons for not praising it :rage: !!!

You guys should actually be grateful that for once it isn't some Itachi, Sasuke, Minato fangasm thread on who can fap the hardest to their favourite character.
 
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I'm sorry, but I didn't read everything. I don't have that kind of attention span. But I did try to read as much of it as I could. So I apologize in advance if I make any mistakes in contrast to your post.

Sakura is definitely developing into the Main Heroine she is supposed to be. Many people say she is useless, but that's just far from the truth. Sure, Kishimoto had trouble with Sakura's development, no doubt about it. He even admitted it himself during a 2010 interview. But he did promise Sakura would play a much bigger role in the future, and finally take her stand as the ''Main heroine'' she deserves to be.

Sakura's words made the Shinobi alliance strive forward, and take action against the Juubi, even though they weren't supported by Naruto's chakra anymore.

I'm wondering what kind of development we'll get to see in the next few chapters.
 

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I tried to look over reviews on the internet and I couldn't believe myself when I 'heard' them talking. Like, really?! And they consider themselves pro-reviewers? Retelling the whole action of the manga and adding few personal opinion doesn't make it a review. I could've done the same thing if it was like that, yet I didn't.
People are critics. But professional critics know when to stem away from their biases and produce an objective review. On the other hand, reviewing 14-18 pages of manga can be pretty difficult to review extensively, which is why said reviewers may preen too quickly over the subtle details of what Kishi is trying to convey. I've seen this happen to me too many times; the new Naruto manga comes out and I just blaze through it. It's several sentences per page, lots of picture action, and I'm a fast reader. Although reviewers must glaze over all the content, not having much dialogue in manga can prove difficult to review in a detailed manner.
 

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Plz tell when you stop jerking to Sakura....if it wasnt for hinata Sakura would be dead since naruto would have given up and wouldn't have saved sakura
What?! We're clearly not talking about the same thing. So, better, let's not just bother with it.
Can't read all of it at the moment, as I'm working. However I think her screen time is relevant and it foreshadows Tsunade's return to the manga once again. I also think her screen time signifies the upcoming Reunion of Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura. Her relevance beyond that is significant in the possibility of a power up or perhaps an important role.

We see already how she has managed to motivate a some what hopeless shinobi alliance with her speech. We'll see. I will get back to this when I finish work.
I'll be waiting for your input when you'll be finishing work then, dear. :)

listen I am not a sakura haters she came a long way since she graduated from the ninja academy in power skill as medical nin and her speech was great in the latest chapter but what I hate her personally how she always punch naruto without a reason she lied and was toying with naruto feeling at the 5 kage summit but everything is ok
Punching has always been done for comedic relief and everyone knows this. Hell, Naruto everytime gets away with it. And there are other manga heroines that you could consider worse than Sakura, yet, no one bashes them. As for the 5 kage summit, she didn't lie to Naruto about her confession, not to mention that Kishi said so. She just didn't tell Naruto about Konoha's decision.
Two different things.

I'm sorry, but I didn't read everything. I don't have that kind of attention span. But I did try to read as much of it as I could. So I apologize in advance if I make any mistakes in contrast to your post.

Sakura is definitely developing into the Main Heroine she is supposed to be. Many people say she is useless, but that's just far from the truth. Sure, Kishimoto had trouble with Sakura's development, no doubt about it. He even admitted it himself during a 2010 interview. But he did promise Sakura would play a much bigger role in the future, and finally take her stand as the ''Main heroine'' she deserves to be.

Sakura's words made the Shinobi alliance strive forward, and take action against the Juubi, even though they weren't supported by Naruto's chakra anymore.

I'm wondering what kind of development we'll get to see in the next few chapters.
It's ok, dear, don't worry. At least you read a bit. :)
Sakura has played her heroine up until now just fine, it's just the fact that people get this impression given the bandwagon effect. However, she is worthy of her title as a heroine and the manga proves it all-throughout. As about that 2010 interview, Kishi said that after Kakashi, comes Sakura.
Coincidence much that while Kakashi's POV comes to a resolution, Sakura is slowly, but surely shifted back to? Guess not. :)
 
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I love sakura, and i don't particularly like hinata.

That being said, i do feel like sakura does need more development. She has a long way to go to match the level of main character sasuke and naruto are. I'm banking on her getting (hashirama's) slug sage mode.
 

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Wow that was a long thread, probably missed something, but it seems to me, that you are just as one-sided as most youtube reviewers. Of course it's hard not to have an opinion. I wouldn't be able to it either, I guess, though I probably am one of the people thinking, Sakura's character potential was sort of wasted by Kishi, and now she is just gaining a little unimportant screen time, so Kishi can prolong his chapters and "satisfy" some fans on that part.

That said, it also seems more like a thread trying to defend Sakura, and that you are mad at the people, who dislike her and call her useless. To be frankly it's an opinion based statement, which you probably can't change with this thread. Yes medical ninjutsu is difficult, but not rare, and not many will see it as anything special, unless it's Tsunade's regeneration technique... This opinion you can't change. Besides, the "hate" for Sakura, is because Kishi made her so weak towards Sasuke.

Also I don't agree with the titling statement. Her speech wont do much. Surely it made the alliance make one last effort before they would die, but future chapters may reveal, that Kishi once again, will take screen time away from the alliance, and use it on some long dead hokage's, who will take the main part of the fight against the Juubi and Madara. The fact that she made the remaining part of the alliance believe in themselves, is of course great, but it's not like it'd made a difference, is it? The ones truly dominating the entire fight is Naruto and Bee. Naruto knew the hokage's + Sasuke were coming. That is why he spent all his chakra defending the alliance till they would arrive.

Also if you compare to other big "speeches" (lets exclude all of Naruto's speeches, as almost no speeches for obvious reasons can compare to them), I can agree, since to be frank, we don't have many big speeches in front of many people in the manga. So yeah it has great impact, but in the eyes of fans, it wont reach many of the golden speeches with much less people though.
 
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Thank you for this, I always seem to be the only one on Sakuras side lol. I dont understand how people hate on her when shes one of the better shinobi of the K11 and one of the greatest kunoichi weve ever seen. Just because she doesnt have giant swirling chakra bombs or shoot fire out of her eyes doesnt mean shes "useless". As Kakashi said she is very likely to surpass Tsunade, one of the legendary Sannin, and shes only 16.
 
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Damn way too many people in the Naruto fan base that look down on Sakura as useless but can never back it up. The only thing they say is that she's "annoying" or "weak". Where in the Naruto universe has Sakura ever completely let her self know she's weak? She was never annoying, just confused and in love. She's defiantly not weak seeing how she defeated Sasori, someone who took down the third kazekage.
 

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On topic:
Sakura' words were indeed strong, IMO, she needed a good courage speech to push her along. Personally, i liked her speech moreso Hinata's; She showed me why i should see her as Heroine- i hope this continues.

Erm, i'll comment on more later, i have a few thoughts but not enough time or it'll end up being too long haha

Nice post tho.
 

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Sakura: 'Grow a pair, you lot'

Meanwhile, she is in the background healing Naruto, just being a fodder........ Your point?
Sakura is all talk and no action really, just wait and see!!!

She won't do a thing once the Sasuke and their team arrives and if by any chance she gets infatuated towards the guy who tried to kill her 3 times, didn't give a sh!t about her, then YES! Sakura would truly conclude IMO at that point be the worst main character in the history of shounen manga!
 

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sorry to what I have to say but even if it is a speech sakura didnt developed her character is that because she always think about sasuke even when he try to kill her she had two chance to kill him but no hinata on the other hand when she got out from her shyness and was able to talk to naruto making him realize neji true words meaning that is a developed character until sakura stop punching other people for every action they take and try to understand other people and realize that no every thing in the world is sasuke than we will have some character development like Ino did Ino realize punching other people for every action they take and not try to understand other people and realize that no every thing in the world is sasuke is only childish and stupid that is a character development
 
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