Why root for villains when they always lose in the end?

[To Whatever]

Pain? Lost

Madara? LOL

Toneri? Lost

Obito? Doritos




I mean you guys have to know whats going to happen in this genre.​

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Losing doesn't take away the glory of being in the right side.

 

[To Whatever]

Losing doesn't take away the glory of being in the right side.

Spoken like a true loser.
History isn't fond of the losers.


Madara, Akatuski, Obito etc. Were destined to lose to the MC and greater good the moment they were conceived. To believe they're right, only to fail to fate.

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[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Spoken like a true loser.
History isn't fond of the losers.


Madara, Akatuski, Obito etc. Were destined to lose to the MC and greater good the moment they were conceived.

Will of Fire Propaganda really got you.

 

[soretynha]

What if they come back just like it has happened with Orochimaru?

:bdpf:

 

[To Whatever]

Will of Fire Propaganda really got you.

Nope. All shounen villains either die, lose, or turn good.


It is fate.


Kishimoto created all of his villains with one end goal. To lose in the end.

What if they come back just like it has happened with Orochimaru?

:bdpf:

You either die, lose or turn good.

Sometimes all three.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Nope. All shounen villains either die, lose, or turn good.


It is fate.


Kishimoto created all of his villains with one end goal. To lose in the end.



You either die, lose or turn good.

Sometimes all three.

I'm not interested in seeing my characters winning all the time. Only kids think like this.
Anyway, what's good about liking a character that is perfect?


And btw: Naruto's world view is as flawed as fake news.

 

[To Whatever]

I'm not interested in seeing my characters winning all the time. Only kids think like this.
Anyway, what's good about liking a character that is perfect?


And btw: Naruto's world view is as flawed as fake news.

Heroes don't win all the time. They only win when it matters.

Villains? They will lose when it matters, no matter how right they believe they are.

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Heroes are not perfect characters.






Madara believed he was chosen that he would be the savior. Only to be killed and removed from the legends.

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He's nothing more than a cautionary tale as Hagoromo put it. A walking tragedy.​

 

[salamander uchiha]

I'm not interested in seeing my characters winning all the time. Only kids think like this.
Anyway, what's good about liking a character that is perfect?


And btw: Naruto's world view is as flawed as fake news.

Nice neg diff.

OT: we root for ideals that those characters portray, their back story creates a form of sympathy for you.

 

[To Whatever]

Nice neg diff.

OT: we root for ideals that those characters portray, their back story creates a form of sympathy for you.

Those ideals do nothing but lead them to fail with nothing to show for it but failure in the very end.

To root for a shounen villain is the equivalent of watching a injured animal out run a predator.


They will never escape their destiny to lose to the Hero.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Those ideals do nothing but lead them to fail with nothing to show for it but failure in the very end.

To root for a shounen villain is the equivalent of watching a injured animal out run a predator.


They will never escape their destiny to lose to the Hero.

You are the proof of why only sugar coated things make success nowadays.


Politically correct. Ew.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Those ideals do nothing but lead them to fail with nothing to show for it but failure in the very end.

Maybe but they're still reason enough to garner support from people.

To root for a shounen villain is the equivalent of watching a injured animal out run a predator.

I think the roles are reversed, the predator is the villian and the injured prey is the hero who gains plot armour to overcome the predator.

They will never escape their destiny to lose to the Hero.

Shonen is predictable I would rather prefer MCs dying. I must say Lawliet dying in Death Note was ballzy even though they slightly screwed up in the end. Light also died so whoever you consider the MC both died. You never know Shonen may return to such GREATNESS once again.

Back on topic ideals are the reason people root for the villian whether they lose or not. That won't be changing any time soon, some even view the villian as somewhat of a hero.

 

[White Powder]

why root for good characters when they win anyway? Xdd

 

[To Whatever]

You are the proof of why only sugar coated things make success nowadays.


Politically correct. Ew.

Untrue.

Many series have villains who win and Heroes who fail.

Those are called tragedies. They aren't in shounen because it's catered towards teens. Madara is a shounen villain and will always lose in the end by design.

Maybe but they're still reason enough to garner support from people.



I think the roles are reversed, the predator is the villian and the injured prey is the hero who gains plot armour to overcome the predator.



Shonen is predictable I would rather prefer MCs dying. I must say Lawliet dying in Death Note was ballzy even though they slightly screwed up in the end. Light also died so whoever you consider the MC both died. You never know Shonen may return to such GREATNESS once again.

Back on topic ideals are the reason people root for the villian whether they lose or not. That won't be changing any time soon, some even view the villian as somewhat of a hero.

Death Note was a tragedy. The villain is a stepping stone for the heroes. It's a constant.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

-1/10, we all know Tobidara is still lurking around. He hasn't been taken down after decades. That's our clear proof that he has a shot.

 

[Umari Senju]

It’s not about what’s winning or loosing. It’s about their circumstances and ideologies. Take My Hero Acadamia’s Stain for example:

He lost the fight but his ideology on heroes and his hatred of them started a movement among other villains. Just because they loose doesn’t mean they don’t change the world.

Madara/Obito they lost bit did they really? Despite all the death and destruction the ninja world manage to obtain a far greater unity thanks to the whole terrible ordeal. It even spawned a new era.

Sometimes things need to be destroyed so that something new can be born.

 

[Dannie]

I think it's more to do with preferences in certain characters, their design, their backstory, their weight in the story, their abilities, etc. If people are just rooting for characters because they will win in the end then I think they are looking at it the wrong way. I mean sure, you can root for the good guy, but there has to be more than just rooting for them because he will win.

Only reason why I usually root for some villains is because most of the time they have better techniques, they are more interesting to watch, their character designs are more appealing(subjective), and they bring conflict to the series.

Most of the Akatsuki were immortal or had some OP ability. Madara, Sasuke(when he was an antagonist) and Obito both had their own ideals and they brought Shippuden to it's peak because they went against what the good guys believed.

It's not really rooting for a character because of the outcome or the victory, more so because you like said characters, which is why Madara has such a huge fanbase.

 

[ThelUchiha]

If he have the dream of his own it doesnt matter if he is a villain as long as he is interesting character. So, it doesnt matter if he lose