Why Prime Hiruzen is the second strongest Hokage behind Naruto (VIZ and Databook)

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He was strongest kage in his era. I doubt that he was stronger then Hashirama, he cant even stand up to Madara
 
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While I don't believe that Hiruzen is as weak of some people tends to believe, I doubt he was stronger than Hashirama..there's no way for prime Hiruzen to hold Kurama on his own, and the Shodai took both him and Madara at the same time ^_^

Plus, wasn't Hiruzen frightened (like all the others in the temple), during this scene?
 

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Hiruzen has too much in his arsenal to take out Madara.

and whats that? hes gonna use all elements? with power of genin , against Madara who used fire jutsu to cover full area? and PS ? gtfo
 

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and whats that? hes gonna use all elements? with power of genin , against Madara who used fire jutsu to cover full area? and PS ? gtfo

Summom 2 Kage Bunshin and have them activate 7th Gate. GG Madara.
 

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Let's be honest here no matter what,the data book say we all know a prime Hiruzen could not defeat a prime Madara one on one
 

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Hiruzen solos.
#BelieveintheHype
 

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Yeah Yeah we all know Prime Fodderuzen once farted and it became amaterasu
 

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3rd strongest after hashirama, who was ret-conned but yeah...
 

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Hiruzen is the third strongest Hokage to exist, after Naruto and Hashirama.

It's true that we couldn't see him in his prime, but even then you can't declare him stronger than Hashirama, who subdued someone as powerful as Madara. Also, using all Konoha's jutsus is impossible. How can Hiruzen simply use Uchiha, Hyuga and Yamanaka clans' jutsus without possessing the Sharingan, Byakugan and special Yamanaka mind? Don't take databook hyperboles too literally.
 

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Hiruzen is the third strongest Hokage to exist, after Naruto and Hashirama.

It's true that we couldn't see him in his prime, but even then you can't declare him stronger than Hashirama, who subdued someone as powerful as Madara. Also, using all Konoha's jutsus is impossible. How can Hiruzen simply use Uchiha, Hyuga and Yamanaka clans' jutsus without possessing the Sharingan, Byakugan and special Yamanaka mind? Don't take databook hyperboles too literally.

You gotta re-read the technique list. I only listed techniques that do not require KKG. Databook 4 clearly states that he is capable of using the Leaf's Hiden (Clan Based) techniques.
"All five nature alterations, Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor" - Databook 4
 
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