[Theory] Why Orochimaru really has turned good

Armathyx

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Some people believe Orochimaru is plotting something evil because he's been evil the whole time.

His reason for turning good is that, through Kabuto, he understood his ways weren't good.

It's been hinted for a while now that he's been reconsidering his opinions, this "turning point" has been foreshadowed but people seem to have ignored it. And that's the main reason I believe he really did turn good right there. Here are the pages that show us his doubts:

This is the first hint: looking at Kabuto. It's no big deal yet, really. But it's an opportunity for him to look at someone like himself. It's like he is taking a look in the mirror. His thoughtful expression shows us so:

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Next page he announces he doesn't care about the war. He's neutral. That's one step ahead from being the evil villain who wants chaos:

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Next few pages he says he wants to steal Sasuke's body, but immediately drops the act saying he's not strong enough yet and decides to listen to him instead. In this page he's seen thinking "For some reason, it feels strange"... what feels strange?

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Chapter 618... he refuses Suigetsu's idea to destroy the Leaf because they are not "snake" anymore. He's referring to Sasuke's original group name "Hebi", they are now the Hawk... Orochimaru as well. In other words, Sasuke is now the leader and he will follow his steps to see what happens.

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And this is one of the most obvious as well. I have the impression people paid no attention to these two images, but they're there for a reason.
It's shown that Orochimaru isn't just "evil" out of nowhere, just like Sasuke. He had a reason to hate Konoha. It's safe to assume that after being trapped in Kabuto and seeing his mistakes, he ended in the same situation as Sasuke: he wanted answers.

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And the final one... people are suspicious of Orochimaru because of his "...." smile. But really, Kishi would've drawn the sequence in a different order if he wanted him to express treachery. He'd have made him say "Of course I'll join", and then have him make his evil grin. Here, he seems to make more of a defeated grin, accepting to help his former enemies.

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Besides, think of the circumstances. Does Orochimaru even have what it takes to betray anyone at this point, when even Madara seems to be struggling?

In conclusion... Orochimaru is much of an older version of Sasuke. He sought revenge for reason we don't know yet, and hearing Hashirama's story helped him understand shinobi as well. They were both "lost" characters that have now found a reason to believe in the village again.
 

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Maybe he's just following along he might not have any plot
 

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Maybe the end of manga coming . Maybe all this is only another orochimarus game . Only one perason know why orochimaru decide to help sasuke and hokages . This preason is . ......... we all know who is this perason . :)=D
 
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Maybe you are right
We have to wait and see
 

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I don't know what a preason or a perason is.
 

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Some people believe Orochimaru is plotting something evil because he's been evil the whole time.

His reason for turning good is that, through Kabuto, he understood his ways weren't good.

It's been hinted for a while now that he's been reconsidering his opinions, this "turning point" has been foreshadowed but people seem to have ignored it. And that's the main reason I believe he really did turn good right there. Here are the pages that show us his doubts:

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I've been saying for a long time that Orochimaru's character isn't what we think it is, and that he's going to surprise us. I don't think Orochimaru has been evil the whole time (or, not completely evil). We know some things:

1) Orochimaru helped Danzo, and Danzo obviously died trying to protect the village
2) Orochimaru did save Kabuto from an assassination attempt
3) Orochimaru, like Itachi, joined Akatsuki and was spying on that organization
4) Orochimaru treated Akatsuki as a bigger enemy than the Leaf Village
5) As late as the fight with Naruto and Orochimaru on the bridge, we know that Orochimaru was still in contact with Danzo (though Sai and other messengers)
6) Kabuto, on several occasions, used his healing powers to save the lives of ninja from the leaf village (I know this isn't Orochimaru, but it is a sign that Orochimaru's people weren't all bad either)
7) We know, though this doesn't prove anything, that the leaf village was STRONGER after Orochimaru's failed invasion: A new, younger, Fifth Hokage was installed (Tsunade). The Sand village was weakened and became a firm ally, the Sound Village (populated mostly with criminals) was destroyed.

Some of these points are tangential or indirect, but they do all point at the idea that Orochimaru was in some ways doing good things, even when he appeared to be evil.
 

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Well Orochimaru certainly isn't another Itachi but he still did turn good. Thing is, will he be accepted back..
 

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I've been saying for a long time that Orochimaru's character isn't what we think it is, and that he's going to surprise us. I don't think Orochimaru has been evil the whole time (or, not completely evil). We know some things:

1) Orochimaru helped Danzo, and Danzo obviously died trying to protect the village.
Okay

2) Orochimaru did save Kabuto from an assassination attempt.
So he could use Kabuto as his subordinate, because he knew a child like him would be easy to manipulate.

3) Orochimaru, like Itachi, joined Akatsuki and was spying on that organization.
He joined them to spy on them for his own sake, not for the village. And he wanted to get closer to Itachis eyes.

4) Orochimaru treated Akatsuki as a bigger enemy than the Leaf Village
I don't see how this supports your argument, but okay.

5) As late as the fight with Naruto and Orochimaru on the bridge, we know that Orochimaru was still in contact with Danzo (though Sai and other messengers)
I don't see how this supports your argument, but okay.

6) Kabuto, on several occasions, used his healing powers to save the lives of ninja from the leaf village (I know this isn't Orochimaru, but it is a sign that Orochimaru's people weren't all bad either)
Kabuto simply does as he feels. Sometimes he feels like being a helping hand and sometimes he feels like severing a hand. He does things on a whim.

7) We know, though this doesn't prove anything, that the leaf village was STRONGER after Orochimaru's failed invasion: A new, younger, Fifth Hokage was installed (Tsunade). The Sand village was weakened and became a firm ally, the Sound Village (populated mostly with criminals) was destroyed.

Coincidence.

Some of these points are tangential or indirect, but they do all point at the idea that Orochimaru was in some ways doing good things, even when he appeared to be evil.

My thoughts are in bold.
 

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This is what Michael jackson's song man in the mirror was all about
 
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