In 2minutes, Minato was able to notice Tobi wasn't Madara. In decades Itachi never knew Tobi wasn't Madara despite the guy having being his mentor for quite some time. In fact, he got fooled by the guy so badly that Tobi knew almost everything concerning Itachi without him even noticing. Minato has shown a similar capacity if not greater than Itachi when he was able to read through Bee's heart just after seeing him once, knowing the real reason behind his strength, something that A only noticed decades after during this war, he knew Tobi would be the cause of disaster after observing him, like he predicted Naruto would be the one to save the world. Minato actually despite being much less present in this manga than Itachi, has shown greater feats in terms of insight abilities or seeing through people. Minato managed to hit Tobi which few people have done and formed a quick plan he was also able to analyze Kakashi's chidori in a matter of seconds and tell him his flaws of it.
Obito has intelligence feats that surpasses Itachi's in my opinion, one of the smartest guys in the series as far as analytical, strategical, and planning abilities go. A real genius Madara trained him well. He not only used a bunch of power-house freaks but also deceived most of them into thinking he was a newbie to the organization and ultimately hid his real plan from them all. He controlled the Mizukage for years with his genjutsu. Foresaw Itachi dying, fooled and knew everything concerning him to the very end. Every time Naruto and co. threw a wrench into his plans, he would look at zetsu and say onto plan B, he always had a backup plan when things went wrong. He didn't even need Madara to go through with Infinite Tsukuyomi. Obito knew everything about the Uchiha clan secrets, techniques & everything about the shonibi world. But most people overlook all of that.
While Itachi is very smart, too many people over-exaggerate his capabilities. If he was really that discerning, he wouldn't have gotten manipulated so bad, and misjudge Sasuke by a mile. Now I'm not bashing Itachi, he is a good character, but rarely do I run into anyone here that can look at him objectively.
Minato could never identify Obito.Here why ....Obito: yes.
Minato: not really, he analyzed kamui cuz he happened to fight it, yet he failed to see his student in the enemy.
@boldObito is one of the biggest fools/mainpulated retards in the manga.
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Itachi had reasoning of Hokage at 7(not 9 years old)
Itachi was spying on Obito and akatsuki, he wasnt manipulated by Obito. What the hell manga are you reading?
Minato and Itachi are both up there. Both of them being able to see through jutsus and finding a weakness, both of them are quick thinkers.
Personally I'd put Itachi above Minato, simply because Itachi never ****s around.
We have seen Minato act goofy a few times during the war, Itachi wouldn't be like that and is more calm than Minato.
But whatever, they are both top5.
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Which he completely stunk at doing, since he gave pretty much no intel to Konoha about any of the Akatsuki members. To make things worse, Obito KNEW he was a spy/double agent. Itachi was a braindead fool for doing nothing to stop the Akatsuki, and instead tried to be a "double agent" which Obito knew about from the start.(and which he failed at, given his partner Kisame knew more about the plan than he did-LOL!)
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And he had the reasoning of a 5 year old when he was 17, given the sheer stupidity of his actions while he was an Akatsuki member. By feats, Minato and Obito shit on Itachi intelligence wise.
Stop lying! Minato never gave any reason for saying it's not Madara. He simply said it can't be Madara without giving a reason, and then went on to say that it didn't matter whether it was him or not because the conclusion is the same, he has to defeat the guy before he goes back to Konoha.Minato is a definite no.
His reasoning for saying that it wasn't Madara was that he couldn't have lived that long and he was dead, something that was completely possible for Madara to do.
In fact, it makes Minato seem like more of a dunce when it was his very own student.
Not to mention his whole plan for Naruto was based on some huge gamble that he was the chosen one.
Obito is more debatable I think, but he's still below Itachi imo.
Which is hilariousStop lying! Minato never gave any reason for saying it's not Madara. He simply said it can't be Madara without giving a reason, and then went on to say that it didn't matter whether it was him or not because the conclusion is the same, he has to defeat the guy before he goes back to Konoha.
No, he said that it couldn't be him because he was dead. If you want you can go check. It's chapter 502.Stop lying! Minato never gave any reason for saying it's not Madara. He simply said it can't be Madara without giving a reason, and then went on to say that it didn't matter whether it was him or not because the conclusion is the same, he has to defeat the guy before he goes back to Konoha.
No, he said that it couldn't be him because he was dead. If you want you can go check. It's chapter 502.Stop lying! Minato never gave any reason for saying it's not Madara. He simply said it can't be Madara without giving a reason, and then went on to say that it didn't matter whether it was him or not because the conclusion is the same, he has to defeat the guy before he goes back to Konoha.