Why Naruto has Hashirama arm

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well I mean, they might have had that. As either Madara or Izuna possessed "Kagetuchi" as Tobirama was knew how the jutsu looked and it's name without ever being told of it's existence by Sasuke. Hence, he had seen it before his own death and the only two people that could've had it would be Madara or Izuna. So it is perfectly possible that another Senju possessed Mokuton or that Indra possessed "Kagetuchi".

So it would be better to say that we don't know a single other character than Hashirama who have possessed Mokuton naturally.

Madara did not have blaze release or even a ms technique (besides susanoo) and neither Izuna. Going off of Tobirama's impression of Sasuke's blaze release is a wild speculation, especially when the viz media print said that Tobirama never seen such flame control before. Meaning, he's never seen it period.

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And Senseisama just reply with your account and not the alt.

 

[Honoikazuchi]

Madara did not have blaze release or even a ms technique (besides susanoo) and neither Izuna. Going off of Tobirama's impression of Sasuke's blaze release is a wild speculation, especially when the viz media print said that Tobirama never seen such flame control before. Meaning, he's never seen it period.

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And Senseisama just reply with your account and not the alt.

Are you honestly... Going to tell me or try to convince anyone that Tobirama has never seen Flame Control every? He's never seen Madara or any Uchiha or anyone for that matter do a "Fire Style" jutsu before? Really? Tobirama? The dude who fought wars against the Uchiha has never seen "Fire Style" before? Did it ever occur to you that the ViZ translation messed up here and there?

Because the original RAW of the manga proves that Tobirama refers to the attack as "Kagetuchi" which refers to "Blaze Style: Flame Control". Which is where the ViZ translation comes in. They added the last part, though not the "Blaze Style" for some reason. However, Tobirama do state; "Kagetuchi".

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He has never seen such well done "Blaze Style: Flame Control" before. Meaning that he has seen the jutsu before, just never so well done as he knew about "Kagetuchi" which was to our knowledge, a unique power to Sasuke.

 

[SenseiSama]

Ashura didn't have Hashirama's mokuton though. Hashirama just put life energy into his element, other then that all the previous transmigrants before most likely did not have mokuton as their ability.

Same thing with Indra, Indra did not have blaze release either.

Its been proven countles times that kKG is a result of chakra, Kakashi had Kamui because of Obito's chakra, Madara had Rinnegan because of Hagorkmo's chakra, therefore Hashirama has Mokuton becaise of Ashura's DNA and most importantly his chakra.


It's the reason Naruto is the only other person to be capable of affecting Mokuton.

Ashura's power was influenced by the Juubi due to the Sage being fused with it and as a result Hashirama was able to inherit the Juubi's affinity while Naruto's body was compatible with all the bijuu.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Its been proven countles times that kKG is a result of chakra, Kakashi had Kamui because of Obito's chakra, Madara had Rinnegan because of Hagorkmo's chakra, therefore Hashirama has Mokuton becaise of Ashura's DNA and most importantly his chakra.


It's the reason Naruto is the only other person to be capable of affecting Mokuton.

Ashura's power was influenced by the Juubi due to the Sage being fused with it and as a result Hashirama was able to inherit the Juubi's affinity while Naruto's body was compatible with all the bijuu.

Ashura did not have mokuton

 

[Honoikazuchi]

Its been proven countles times that kKG is a result of chakra, Kakashi had Kamui because of Obito's chakra, Madara had Rinnegan because of Hagorkmo's chakra, therefore Hashirama has Mokuton becaise of Ashura's DNA and most importantly his chakra.


It's the reason Naruto is the only other person to be capable of affecting Mokuton.

Ashura's power was influenced by the Juubi due to the Sage being fused with it and as a result Hashirama was able to inherit the Juubi's affinity while Naruto's body was compatible with all the bijuu.

Ashura isn't known to possess Mokuton. Hence, that power was either dormant within him naturally or isn't tied to him at all. Meaning that Hashirama was just naturally gifted with Life Force in a different manner than other Shinobi and people of his bloodline. While Madara knew about the Shinju and used Mokuton to control it, he still credit Hashirama as the original user and as the person who invented the style for combat reasons.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Are you honestly... Going to tell me or try to convince anyone that Tobirama has never seen Flame Control every? He's never seen Madara or any Uchiha or anyone for that matter do a "Fire Style" jutsu before? Really? Tobirama? The dude who fought wars against the Uchiha has never seen "Fire Style" before? Did it ever occur to you that the ViZ translation messed up here and there?

Pause. Just stop right there before you start rambling on about your theory on Tobirama seeing flame control and listening to you calling kishi's words "wrong." Because that's just plain dull right there. You have no place to question whether viz print is wrong or not, you're not kishi nor are you his editors. So clearly the only one who's wrong here is you.

Now do I believe that Tobirama has never seen blaze release before? The answer would be yes, kishi said himself viz print manga.

Because the original RAW of the manga proves that Tobirama refers to the attack as "Kagetuchi" which refers to "Blaze Style: Flame Control". Which is where the ViZ translation comes in. They added the last part, though not the "Blaze Style" for some reason. However, Tobirama do state; "Kagetuchi".

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He has never seen such well done "Blaze Style: Flame Control" before. Meaning that he has seen the jutsu before, just never so well done as he knew about "Kagetuchi" which was to our knowledge, a unique power to Sasuke.

Just stop, I don't care about your translation I only care for kishi. Now I know who's alt this is and I'm just gonna ignore this headache. Because I know only one person senile enough to challenge viz print manga by interpreting raw text through their means.

 

[Honoikazuchi]

Pause. Just stop right there before you start rambling on about your theory on Tobirama seeing flame control and listening to you calling kishi's words "wrong." Because that's just plain dull right there. You have no place to question whether viz print is wrong or not, you're not kishi nor are you his editors. So clearly the only one who's wrong here is you.

Now do I believe that Tobirama has never seen blaze release before? The answer would be yes, kishi said himself viz print manga.



Just stop, I don't care about your translation I only care for kishi. Now I know who's alt this is and I'm just gonna ignore this headache. Because I know only one person senile enough to challenge viz print manga by interpreting raw text through their means.

You are aware that the ViZ translation is a translation of the RAW Japanese version right? Hence, Kishimoto wrote the Japanese version and someone translated that into English for ViZ to print and sell outside of Japan. Hence, the RAW is Kishimoto's words and the ViZ translation is someone else's. Hence if the RAW disagree with the ViZ then the ViZ is the wrong one. The Japanese manga, as in the RAW version states that Tobirama used the specific term "Kagetuchi" which is the ability to manipulate the form of the Black Flames from Amaterasu.

Sasuke never told him about this ability, nor did he ever use it in front of Tobirama until that specific scene. Meaning, Tobirama both knew the new and visuals of the black flames from Amaterasu and the ability to control it's shape through the Sharingan. Hence, he has seen it before as the only recorded history of Indra is written on the Uchiha Tablet which Tobirama couldn't read. So no, I am not rambling about a theory or fan-fiction. The only one doing that would be you.

I am not calling Kishimoto's words "wrong", you are the one who are claiming that someone else (the translator) is more correct about the story than Kishimoto himself is.

 

[SenseiSama]

You are aware that the ViZ translation is a translation of the RAW Japanese version right? Hence, Kishimoto wrote the Japanese version and someone translated that into English for ViZ to print and sell outside of Japan. Hence, the RAW is Kishimoto's words and the ViZ translation is someone else's. Hence if the RAW disagree with the ViZ then the ViZ is the wrong one. The Japanese manga, as in the RAW version states that Tobirama used the specific term "Kagetuchi" which is the ability to manipulate the form of the Black Flames from Amaterasu.

Sasuke never told him about this ability, nor did he ever use it in front of Tobirama until that specific scene. Meaning, Tobirama both knew the new and visuals of the black flames from Amaterasu and the ability to control it's shape through the Sharingan. Hence, he has seen it before as the only recorded history of Indra is written on the Uchiha Tablet which Tobirama couldn't read. So no, I am not rambling about a theory or fan-fiction. The only one doing that would be you.

I am not calling Kishimoto's words "wrong", you are the one who are claiming that someone else (the translator) is more correct about the story than Kishimoto himself is.

I would +rep you if i could, spitting straight up facts.

Tobirama's knowledge of kagatsuchi came frkn witnessing Izuna's usenit because Sasuke reminded Hashonif Izuna and only Izuna was close to Madata's level like Sasuke.

 

[Warlocks]

Nope, he wouldn't have Mokuton which is the affinity of JuubiJins, Obito stated that having the Sage's body meant having the power of a JuubiJin which means Ashura had Mokuton which makes sense because Hashi's genes and chakra are Ashura's in the first place.

In addition, Mokuton provides the healing feats Naruto lacks without the yang seal, as proven by Obito and Zetsu it enables the user to regenerate any body part with practically no limit which is a feat only people with the JuubiJin's power are capable of.


Naruto requires Hashi's power to have Hagoromo's full body feats like how Sasuke has Hagoromo's full eye feats.

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both seals are made of Mokuton

 

[Zawerni]

Nice fanfiction.

 

[Honoikazuchi]

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both seals are made of Mokuton

Myōjinmon as you demonstrated in the lower image, which is what Hashirama used against Edo Madara and tried to use against Juubi Obito is not a Mokuton Jutsu. It is a Sage Art and thus a Jutsu related to Sage Mode which both Naruto and Hashirama has access to. Hence why the full name of the Jutsu is; Senpō: Myōjinmon also known as Sage Art: Gracious Deity Gates in the ViZ translation of the manga.