Why Naruto has Hashirama arm

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I made a thread earlier this year explaining how Senju and Uzumaki represent separate but equal halves of Ashura's power.

As an RSM user Ashura had the full power of nature like JuubiJins, Naruto's relationship with bjuu represented Ashura being one with animals while Hashirama's mokuton represented Ashura being one with plant life.

By having Hashirama's arm Naruto basically has both halves of Ashura's power, he represents being one with wildlife as well as one with the Forrests which essentially makes him a being fully one with nature like JuubiJins.

Kishi sucks at plot development but you can't deny he knows how to be consistent with manga themes to the finest detail.
 

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well uh, i thought it was just cuz he needed an arm
 

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Nah fam it's just an arm so he can keep using kage bunshins.
 

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I made a thread earlier this year explaining how Senju and Uzumaki represent separate but equal halves of Ashura's power.

As an RSM user Ashura had the full power of nature like JuubiJins, Naruto's relationship with bjuu represented Ashura being one with animals while Hashirama's mokuton represented Ashura being one with plant life.

By having Hashirama's arm Naruto basically has both halves of Ashura's power, he represents being one with wildlife as well as one with the Forrests which essentially makes him a being fully one with nature like JuubiJins.

Kishi sucks at plot development but you can't deny he knows how to be consistent with manga themes to the finest detail.

even without Hashirama's arm Naruto has all Ashura's power

cuz rsm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashura's power
rsm has all elements
 

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senju/uzamaki are six path yang half but Naruto and Hashirama are ashura on top of all that (transmigrants). So he's not going to have an additional Ashura power on top of what he already has.
 

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You might be reading too much into things here. :bdpf:
 

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well uh, i thought it was just cuz he needed an arm

There's more to that. kishi always has a reason whenever it concerns power ups.


Having Mokuton affinity and compatibility with bijuus makes him a complete nature god which is what Ashura and JuubiJins were.
 

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senju/uzamaki are six path yang half but Naruto and Hashirama are ashura on top of all that (transmigrants). So he's not going to have an additional Ashura power on top of what he already has.

I never said he had additional power ups, in fact it's the opposite, BSM Naruro and SM Hashirama represent two halves of ashura's full power like Indra and Adhura representing two halves of Hagoromo's power.

Naruto is onenwith bijuus which makes him one with animals and Hashirama is one with the forrests which makes him one with plant life.

Plants and animals are two separate aspects of nature and life, being one with both means being fully one with nature like the Juubi's and Six Path Senjutsu users.

By havig Hashirama's powe Naruto essentially possesses the full power of a JuubiJin like Ashura.
 

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even without Hashirama's arm Naruto has all Ashura's power

cuz rsm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashura's power
rsm has all elements

Nope, he wouldn't have Mokuton which is the affinity of JuubiJins, Obito stated that having the Sage's body meant having the power of a JuubiJin which means Ashura had Mokuton which makes sense because Hashi's genes and chakra are Ashura's in the first place.

In addition, Mokuton provides the healing feats Naruto lacks without the yang seal, as proven by Obito and Zetsu it enables the user to regenerate any body part with practically no limit which is a feat only people with the JuubiJin's power are capable of.


Naruto requires Hashi's power to have Hagoromo's full body feats like how Sasuke has Hagoromo's full eye feats.
 
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Sensei stop with the fanfic brah. :bdpf:
 

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Sensei stop with the fanfic brah. :bdpf:

Its nit fanfic, you should know by now Kish is always consistent with symbolism

Uzumaki have potential to use bijuu power while Senju have potential for Mokuton

Hashirama's Sage Mode made him fully one with trees tlwhile Naruto's Sage Mode made him one with Kurama and eventually all the bijuu.

Bijuu represent wildlife and Mokuton represents forrests, both are part of nature, both powers come from Ashura who possesses the same power as a JuubiJin aka Six Path Senjutsu

Proof ? RSM grants the user the same chakra as a JuubiJin, Obito said he had the Sage's body when he became JuubiJin.

What does that tell you ? It means you don't have Hagormo's body until you have the full scope a JuubiJin's feats.

Since mokuton is originally the Juubi's affinity, Naruto needed Hashi's arm to have the full scope of Hagoromo's body.
 

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Don't describe Senju and Uzumaki as "separate but equal"... I just feel the historical connotation behind those words is too negative.
 

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Because he forgot his original one is Sasukes ass.
 

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Its nit fanfic, you should know by now Kish is always consistent with symbolism

Uzumaki have potential to use bijuu power while Senju have potential for Mokuton

Hashirama's Sage Mode made him fully one with trees tlwhile Naruto's Sage Mode made him one with Kurama and eventually all the bijuu.

Bijuu represent wildlife and Mokuton represents forrests, both are part of nature, both powers come from Ashura who possesses the same power as a JuubiJin aka Six Path Senjutsu

Proof ? RSM grants the user the same chakra as a JuubiJin, Obito said he had the Sage's body when he became JuubiJin.

What does that tell you ? It means you don't have Hagormo's body until you have the full scope a JuubiJin's feats.

Since mokuton is originally the Juubi's affinity, Naruto needed Hashi's arm to have the full scope of Hagoromo's body.
This is still wrong tho.
 

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since when can asura do wood style?...scans from the manga depicting this or as ususal you preach FAAAAAANFFFIIIIICCC
 

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I never said he had additional power ups, in fact it's the opposite, BSM Naruro and SM Hashirama represent two halves of ashura's full power like Indra and Adhura representing two halves of Hagoromo's power.

Naruto is onenwith bijuus which makes him one with animals and Hashirama is one with the forrests which makes him one with plant life.

Plants and animals are two separate aspects of nature and life, being one with both means being fully one with nature like the Juubi's and Six Path Senjutsu users.

By havig Hashirama's powe Naruto essentially possesses the full power of a JuubiJin like Ashura.

Ashura didn't have Hashirama's mokuton though. Hashirama just put life energy into his element, other then that all the previous transmigrants before most likely did not have mokuton as their ability.

Same thing with Indra, Indra did not have blaze release either.
 

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Nah fam it's just an arm so he can keep using kage bunshins.

Naruto can preform "Multiple Shadow Clone Jutsu" using only a single hand. Which he learned in-between the time where he lost his arm and got a new one. Its stated during the opening page of Kakashi Hiden when Naruto attacks Garyo's hideout. So no, he just got a new arm because he wanted one.
 

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Ashura didn't have Hashirama's mokuton though. Hashirama just put life energy into his element, other then that all the previous transmigrants before most likely did not have mokuton as their ability.

Same thing with Indra, Indra did not have blaze release either.

Well I mean, they might have had that. As either Madara or Izuna possessed "Kagetuchi" as Tobirama was knew how the jutsu looked and it's name without ever being told of it's existence by Sasuke. Hence, he had seen it before his own death and the only two people that could've had it would be Madara or Izuna. So it is perfectly possible that another Senju possessed Mokuton or that Indra possessed "Kagetuchi".

So it would be better to say that we don't know a single other character than Hashirama who have possessed Mokuton naturally.
 
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