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The 6 paths of pain weren't trying to kill naruto he even stated they needed him alive , your talking about 6 paths who lost most of his chakra taking on the whole leaf village and even when deva got his power back it was a game changer the rinnengan doesn't give you all the elements it helps you master them even if you took it away he still have his elements if you took ftg & BM from minato he still get reck by rinnengan nagato see how that works. see that too the 2 jin that Nagato was easily beating on before itachi rescued them.BM Minato isn't SM Naruto. If we are talking paths. If SM Naruto could deal with paths with transformations and distractions then Minato shits. Doesn't rinnegan give you all the elements anyway? Without rinnegan, Nagato just has the usual Uzumaki traits so you can't use that argument. Maybe you could start a thread about it. I can imagine some Uchiha/dojutsu fans on your side. Even looking at the timeline with power surges, Minato should be on a different tier.
I'm sorry but your argument is bollocks and I'm losing my patience. Make a thread, add an opinion poll. Nagato still lost to SM Naruto due to his cooldown so obviously BM Minato takes it. If you complain about the BS kyuubi rampage saving Naruto, Minato also has that power...under control.
As for the rinnegan giving all elements is still almost irrelevant and you misunderstood. I don't read DB but didn't Sasuke get all elements with his eye or it could've been another sage boost. It's irrelevant, Kakashi copied 1000 jutsu with a SHARINGAN. Nagato mastered all elements with the rinnegan, big whoop, it gives buffs. There would be something wrong if he didn't. My point still stands that that argument is bs. Why the hell would you take ftg away from Minato ._. That part was part of the previous argument. Minato had no eye bonuses yet he still would've had ftg and BM. It's questionable that Nagato would've had all elements without rinnegan was the point. I wasn't saying that BM stomps Nagato w/o rinnegan or something stupid, that's obvious and in no way supports either of our arguments ..
And once again for your last point...MINATO ISN'T ****ING NARUTO. That absorption was done for comedic purpooses btw from what I remember, look at Naruto's facial expressions after.
I already proved he's superior in Ninjustu & Genjutsu and mastered more elements lmao but yet you still can't tell me how he counters preta or human paths techinque but hurt much lmao no valid argumentYou didn't counter anything :lol
I said Minato is superior to Nagato in many categories & you didn't say anything to counter that part or did you ignore it?
I countered Nagato's whole arsenal yet you couldn't prove me that I'm wrong.
How can Nagato prevent himself from getting blitzed/killed/vaporized? you didn't say anything about this either.
Just help yourself & everyone & SHUT UP! Or atleast stop replying to me...
My intellect is far superior to yours no need to be but-hurt denial is just apart of the fanboyism , who cares if something was given to a person or not it has no valid point in the argument. Obito statement that even he couldn't put in both Rinnengan at the sametime put it was implanted into Nagato as a child and mastered(Elements/Ninjutsu) it to a certain extent in his pre teen years .I'm not mad in the slightest but...are you retarded? I wasn't making any scenario where either of them fought with restrictions. I was stating how mastering all the elements isn't a decent feat when you have the rinnegan. Do you understand?
In the words of Tommy Tiernan. The English language is a wall blocking communication and the word **** is my chisel.
Please tell me you understand there are no double standards. Is English your first language? I'm totally serious :l if not, I've lost faith iin your comprehension skills.
We already knew Nagato had all his rinnegan powers so I don't believe that. More than likely, Kishi likes Itachi and wanted him to Solo.
Make the thread if you want.
As for your other quoted reply, he can teleport. Just let that sink in. Any danger he's in...he can teleport away...Of course he's better at ninjutsu and genjutsu because he has the ****ing rinnegan. It's a given. Kakashi was said to have 1000 jutsu yet he could still be beaten now by loads of people. Your logic in that regard is flawed and you cry butt hurt as a result and that's 'butt' btw with 2 frickin' t's.
Nagato is immune to visual Genjutsu due to Rinnegan so what? Frog Genjutsu can still own him & sad news for you is no Genjutsu is gonna land on Minato due to his speed.I already proved he's superior in Ninjustu & Genjutsu and mastered more elements lmao but yet you still can't tell me how he counters preta or human paths techinque but hurt much lmao no valid argument
A TBB wouldn't do it your claiming by stating he can't absorb that much chakra but Kabuto was going to use Nagato to take both Jinchuuurki and there chakraNagato is immune to visual Genjutsu due to Rinnegan so what? Frog Genjutsu can still own him & sad news for you is no Genjutsu is gonna land on Minato due to his speed.
TBB,Rasengan variants,Boss Summon & elders & FTG are more than enough to overwhelm Nagato, he can't even scratch Kurama Avatar...everything he has to offer is either gets tanked or evaded & he gets overpowers by Minato's fire power.
The fact you think Preta Path can absorb huge TBB makes your argument even less worthy, if by any chance Nagato can absorb a TBB it takes him so much time & Minato would wreck him in that time.
Nagato can't even touch Minato yet you believe he can absorb Minato's clock or even the Avatar? Not a chance in hell! If Nagato attempts to absorb his cloak he can simply warp away.
Don't use Killer Bee & KCM Naruto as examples, as they nowhere near Minato's level.
Again how can Nagato prevent himself from getting blitzed/vaporized? if you can't answer this question then I'm not gonna argue with you anymore.
You can keep your English advice, you process a thought not digest (digesting is the means of breaking down food). You talk about getting personal but began with the cursing and insult over a simple discussion, all i did was return insult hypocrisy like that without seeing you started it first calling me childish lmao. Truthfully i really don't care about your hypothesis , if you heard the saying " If you want something done, go do it yourself" exactly as the quote stated.Yeah..nawh.you gotta be trolling. Talking about intellect when you can't spell. Getting personnal, trying to get a rise out of me. You're just afraid of the general consensus, that's why you won't make the thread. The fact you called me a fapboy is kinda proving that you're a child or something. I'm just using common sense and logic here. Idk about you lol
I'm done here unless you can understand these words because you sure as hell couldn't understand the last ones. I don't give two shits about inheritance or ethics about how they got their powers. This is a match-up, that is all, no bashing. Get that through your thick skull or just stop. Have you digested that? We can't proceed unless you understand what I am saying.
Your Obito bit is irrelevant af. I already knew that information, I'm not denying it. In fact I'm doing the opposite. Hiruzen had all the elements without rinnegan, what's your point? if anyone has the rinnegan, they can master all the elements super easily, not that it matters much. Which is how this started btw. Me saying it's almost irrelevant and that it's no big feat CONSIDERING he has the rinnegan.
Teleporting can prevent a hit, which was my point.
Yeah, English isn't your first language so maybe I was a little harsh on you. Look buddy, I'm done convincing you for now. Make the thread if you wish to test your hypothesis. I'm off, it's 4:10 in the morning in Ireland. Caoi.
:lol What? Kabuto wanted to capture the Jins not absorbing all of their Chakras...the Bijuus are sealed inside the hosts you can't simply absorb them, you have to break the seal first.A TBB wouldn't do it your claiming by stating he can't absorb that much chakra but Kabuto was going to use Nagato to take both Jinchuuurki and there chakra
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Frog genjutsu was tryed a second time didn't work it failed and elder killed check
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Giant toad summoning gets there bones broken one shotted again by almighty push.
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Rasengan absorbed
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Kabuto statement "i've got a way of making the jinchuurki mine without Madara finding out" we''ve seen 3 different times were the bijuu were taking without the seals being broken.:lol What? Kabuto wanted to capture the Jins not absorbing all of their Chakras...the Bijuus are sealed inside the hosts you can't simply absorb them, you have to break the seal first.
Oh COME ON, I said don't use Naruto & Killer Bee as examples! Seriously? You compare BM Minato to SM Naruto? Minato can hide the elders inside Kurama Avatar where Nagato can't reach them & they'll prepare the Frog Song.
Then Minato kill Nagato during the cool down, Nagato can't effort to spam ST specially in front of someone as fast as Minato.
Naruto was restrained by Nagato & tried to him with direct hit, that's not gonna happen in Minato's case cause Nagato can't touch him ...Minato can blitz Nagato from his blind spot thus giving him no time to react/counter & put him down for good with a FTG+Rasengan combo.
Nice counter argument lmao. As I said, you start screaming 'butthurt'. I explained that I naturally curse to emphasise a point seen as I was repeating myself 2/3 times because you interpreted something wrong and even when I pointed it out, you refused to re-evaluate the original statement so it's understandable. Dw, I could correct your English all day m8 but I won't. You may get a hot thread from this *wink wink* you were the one in the minority, defending your intuition or w/e which is why I suggested you do it. I wasn't in the mood for debating either. Your insults were childish and baseless btw.Never heard 'digest' in regards to thinking? Yup. Definitely not English.
I also like how you ignore facts you can't counter btw. Your last response was entirely about me XD Looks like I was right on the money. (That's also an expression, daisy)
If Naruto can take advantage of the cooldown, Minato sure as hell can with his superior speed. Chances are he'd only try rasengan twice, max and it's not like he'd run out of chakra from it. What stops him from slicing him to bits with a kunai when he catches him off guard? If SM Naruto can trick Pain with transfornations and smoke bombs, Minato is more than capable. That's if he doesn't just blitz him outright btw.
Yet to counter anythingSoooo you're blind aswell as stupid/ignorant?
BM Minato > SM Naruto. Get it through your skull. You're just lying now about people's views, I already explained that my swearing was only emphasusing but you failed to acknowledge that...AGAIN. You were the one with the accusations. "But hurt herpa derp". I'm done with you. You're literally too stupid to insult. Make the thread if you feel so strongly about it.