Yes because using a space-time jutsu to summnong a crow 1 second plus Itachi is the one who programmed the eye in the first place it obeys his commands.
You must be registered for see images
Nagato cooks BM Minato Mid diff
TTB gets absorbed
Giant toad summoning gets there bones broken one shotted again by almighty push.
You must be registered for see images
Sage toads turn into french frog legs on a stick again.
You must be registered for see images
Minato outclass him really? lets see mastered more elements then minato check
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Mastered Genjutsu we seen none of the features from minato himself yin should also be on his element chart the mizukage explained it.
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
only thing he beats him for sure is speed
Nagato has clones also if his absorption techinque has a limit it has to be far up there this guy sucked the the charka cloak right off killer b skin, BM Minato has a chance against pain but not nagato who has all ability & more in one.
BM Minato isn't SM Naruto. If we are talking paths. If SM Naruto could deal with paths with transformations and distractions then Minato shits. Doesn't rinnegan give you all the elements anyway? Without rinnegan, Nagato just has the usual Uzumaki traits so you can't use that argument. Maybe you could start a thread about it. I can imagine some Uchiha/dojutsu fans on your side. Even looking at the timeline with power surges, Minato should be on a different tier.
This is the proper thread to ask this: what the hell does solos neg diff mean?? It appears in every Itachi-fan thread! Not an English speaker, sorry. It kinda beats me why people use negative difference here... :itachi:
BM Minato isn't SM Naruto. If we are talking paths. If SM Naruto could deal with paths with transformations and distractions then Minato shits. Doesn't rinnegan give you all the elements anyway? Without rinnegan, Nagato just has the usual Uzumaki traits so you can't use that argument. Maybe you could start a thread about it. I can imagine some Uchiha/dojutsu fans on your side. Even looking at the timeline with power surges, Minato should be on a different tier.
The 6 paths of pain weren't trying to kill naruto he even stated they needed him alive , your talking about 6 paths who lost most of his chakra taking on the whole leaf village and even when deva got his power back it was a game changer the rinnengan doesn't give you all the elements it helps you master them even if you took it away he still have his elements if you took ftg & BM from minato he still get reck by rinnengan nagato see how that works. see that too the 2 jin that Nagato was easily beating on before itachi rescued them.
The 6 paths of pain weren't trying to kill naruto he even stated they needed him alive , your talking about 6 paths who lost most of his chakra taking on the whole leaf village and even when deva got his power back it was a game changer the rinnengan doesn't give you all the elements it helps you master them even if you took it away he still have his elements if you took ftg & BM from minato he still get reck by rinnengan nagato see how that works. see that too the 2 jin that Nagato was easily beating on before itachi rescued them.
I'm sorry but your argument is bollocks and I'm losing my patience. Make a thread, add an opinion poll. Nagato still lost to SM Naruto due to his cooldown so obviously BM Minato takes it. If you complain about the BS kyuubi rampage saving Naruto, Minato also has that power...under control.
As for the rinnegan giving all elements is still almost irrelevant and you misunderstood. I don't read DB but didn't Sasuke get all elements with his eye or it could've been another sage boost. It's irrelevant, Kakashi copied 1000 jutsu with a SHARINGAN. Nagato mastered all elements with the rinnegan, big whoop, it gives buffs. There would be something wrong if he didn't. My point still stands that that argument is bs. Why the hell would you take ftg away from Minato ._. That part was part of the previous argument. Minato had no eye bonuses yet he still would've had ftg and BM. It's questionable that Nagato would've had all elements without rinnegan was the point. I wasn't saying that BM stomps Nagato w/o rinnegan or something stupid, that's obvious and in no way supports either of our arguments ..
And once again for your last point...MINATO ISN'T ****ING NARUTO. That absorption was done for comedic purpooses btw from what I remember, look at Naruto's facial expressions after.
I'm sorry but your argument is bollocks and I'm losing my patience. Make a thread, add an opinion poll. Nagato still lost to SM Naruto due to his cooldown so obviously BM Minato takes it. If you complain about the BS kyuubi rampage saving Naruto, Minato also has that power...under control.
As for the rinnegan giving all elements is still almost irrelevant and you misunderstood. I don't read DB but didn't Sasuke get all elements with his eye or it could've been another sage boost. It's irrelevant, Kakashi copied 1000 jutsu with a SHARINGAN. Nagato mastered all elements with the rinnegan, big whoop, it gives buffs. There would be something wrong if he didn't. My point still stands that that argument is bs. Why the hell would you take ftg away from Minato ._. That part was part of the previous argument. Minato had no eye bonuses yet he still would've had ftg and BM. It's questionable that Nagato would've had all elements without rinnegan was the point. I wasn't saying that BM stomps Nagato w/o rinnegan or something stupid, that's obvious and in no way supports either of our arguments ..
And once again for your last point...MINATO ISN'T ****ING NARUTO. That absorption was done for comedic purpooses btw from what I remember, look at Naruto's facial expressions after.
You didn't counter anything :lol
I said Minato is superior to Nagato in many categories & you didn't say anything to counter that part or did you ignore it?
I countered Nagato's whole arsenal yet you couldn't prove me that I'm wrong.
How can Nagato prevent himself from getting blitzed/killed/vaporized? you didn't say anything about this either.
Just help yourself & everyone & SHUT UP! Or atleast stop replying to me...
I already proved he's superior in Ninjustu & Genjutsu and mastered more elements lmao but yet you still can't tell me how he counters preta or human paths techinque but hurt much lmao no valid argument
Double standard but hurt take away nagato but not vice-versa bias lmao
you have no valid points because he took pain pin him down and stated he only wanted to capture not kill
You must be registered for see images
Name calling and cursing is what a but-hurt noob does when they no valid points
The absorbing was to prove the point that nagato still had his powers
I already proved he's superior in Ninjustu & Genjutsu and mastered more elements lmao but yet you still can't tell me how he counters preta or human paths techinque but hurt much lmao no valid argument
I'm not mad in the slightest but...are you retarded/below 11 ish? I wasn't making any scenario where either of them fought with restrictions as I keep explaining. I was stating how mastering all the elements isn't a decent feat when you have the rinnegan. Do you understand?
In the words of Tommy Tiernan. The English language is a wall blocking communication and the word **** is my chisel.
Please tell me you understand there are no double standards. Is English your first language? I'm totally serious :l if not, I've lost faith iin your comprehension skills.
We already knew Nagato had all his rinnegan powers so I don't believe that. More than likely, Kishi likes Itachi and wanted him to Solo.
Make the thread if you want.
As for your other quoted reply, he can teleport. Just let that sink in. Any danger he's in...he can teleport away...Of course he's better at ninjutsu and genjutsu because he has the ****ing rinnegan. It's a given. Kakashi was said to have 1000 jutsu yet he could still be beaten now by loads of people. Your logic in that regard is flawed and you cry butt hurt as a result and that's 'butt' btw with 2 frickin' t'
I'm not mad in the slightest but...are you retarded? I wasn't making any scenario where either of them fought with restrictions. I was stating how mastering all the elements isn't a decent feat when you have the rinnegan. Do you understand?
In the words of Tommy Tiernan. The English language is a wall blocking communication and the word **** is my chisel.
Please tell me you understand there are no double standards. Is English your first language? I'm totally serious :l if not, I've lost faith iin your comprehension skills.
We already knew Nagato had all his rinnegan powers so I don't believe that. More than likely, Kishi likes Itachi and wanted him to Solo.
Make the thread if you want.
As for your other quoted reply, he can teleport. Just let that sink in. Any danger he's in...he can teleport away...Of course he's better at ninjutsu and genjutsu because he has the ****ing rinnegan. It's a given. Kakashi was said to have 1000 jutsu yet he could still be beaten now by loads of people. Your logic in that regard is flawed and you cry butt hurt as a result and that's 'butt' btw with 2 frickin' t's.
My intellect is far superior to yours no need to be but-hurt denial is just apart of the fanboyism , who cares if something was given to a person or not it has no valid point in the argument. Obito statement that even he couldn't put in both Rinnengan at the sametime put it was implanted into Nagato as a child and mastered(Elements/Ninjutsu) it to a certain extent in his pre teen years .
Teleporting doesn't mean you never get hit
Example
Minato teleported right behind Killer B ,you can see the next panel ,Minato looks down and you can see Killer B knife. The knife was pointed right at Minato stomach he never noticed until it was to late (he could of striked him if he wanted to), The same guy who got throw around by Nagato not once but twice .
My intellect is far superior to yours no need to be but-hurt denial is just apart of the fanboyism , who cares if something was given to a person or not it has no valid point in the argument. Obito statement that even he couldn't put in both Rinnengan at the sametime put it was implanted into Nagato as a child and mastered(Elements/Ninjutsu) it to a certain extent in his pre teen years .
Teleporting doesn't mean you never get hit
Example
Minato teleported right behind Killer B ,you can see the next panel ,Minato looks down and you can see Killer B knife. The knife was pointed right at Minato stomach he never noticed until it was to late (he could of striked him if he wanted to), The same guy who got throw around by Nagato not once but twice .
Yeah..nawh.you gotta be trolling. Talking about intellect when you can't spell. Getting personnal, trying to get a rise out of me. You're just afraid of the general consensus, that's why you won't make the thread. The fact you called me a fapboy is kinda proving that you're a child or something. I'm just using common sense and logic here. Idk about you lol
I'm done here unless you can understand these words because you sure as hell couldn't understand the last ones. I don't give two shits about inheritance or ethics about how they got their powers. This is a match-up, that is all, no bashing. Get that through your thick skull or just stop. Have you digested that? We can't proceed unless you understand what I am saying.
Your Obito bit is irrelevant af. I already knew that information, I'm not denying it. In fact I'm doing the opposite. Hiruzen had all the elements without rinnegan, what's your point? if anyone has the rinnegan, they can master all the elements super easily, not that it matters much. Which is how this started btw. Me saying it's almost irrelevant and that it's no big feat CONSIDERING he has the rinnegan.
Teleporting can prevent a hit, which was my point.
Yeah, English isn't your first language so maybe I was a little harsh on you. Look buddy, I'm done convincing you for now. Make the thread if you wish to test your hypothesis. I'm off, it's 4:10 in the morning in Ireland. Caoi.
I already proved he's superior in Ninjustu & Genjutsu and mastered more elements lmao but yet you still can't tell me how he counters preta or human paths techinque but hurt much lmao no valid argument
Nagato is immune to visual Genjutsu due to Rinnegan so what? Frog Genjutsu can still own him & sad news for you is no Genjutsu is gonna land on Minato due to his speed.
TBB,Rasengan variants,Boss Summon & elders & FTG are more than enough to overwhelm Nagato, he can't even scratch Kurama Avatar...everything he has to offer is either gets tanked or evaded & he gets overpowers by Minato's fire power.
The fact you think Preta Path can absorb huge TBB makes your argument even less worthy, if by any chance Nagato can absorb a TBB it takes him so much time & Minato would wreck him in that time.
Nagato can't even touch Minato yet you believe he can absorb Minato's clock or even the Avatar? Not a chance in hell! If Nagato attempts to absorb his cloak he can simply warp away.
Don't use Killer Bee & KCM Naruto as examples, as they nowhere near Minato's level.
Again how can Nagato prevent himself from getting blitzed/vaporized? if you can't answer this question then I'm not gonna argue with you anymore.
Nagato is immune to visual Genjutsu due to Rinnegan so what? Frog Genjutsu can still own him & sad news for you is no Genjutsu is gonna land on Minato due to his speed.
TBB,Rasengan variants,Boss Summon & elders & FTG are more than enough to overwhelm Nagato, he can't even scratch Kurama Avatar...everything he has to offer is either gets tanked or evaded & he gets overpowers by Minato's fire power.
The fact you think Preta Path can absorb huge TBB makes your argument even less worthy, if by any chance Nagato can absorb a TBB it takes him so much time & Minato would wreck him in that time.
Nagato can't even touch Minato yet you believe he can absorb Minato's clock or even the Avatar? Not a chance in hell! If Nagato attempts to absorb his cloak he can simply warp away.
Don't use Killer Bee & KCM Naruto as examples, as they nowhere near Minato's level.
Again how can Nagato prevent himself from getting blitzed/vaporized? if you can't answer this question then I'm not gonna argue with you anymore.
A TBB wouldn't do it your claiming by stating he can't absorb that much chakra but Kabuto was going to use Nagato to take both Jinchuuurki and there chakra
You must be registered for see images
Frog genjutsu was tryed a second time didn't work it failed and elder killed check
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Giant toad summoning gets there bones broken one shotted again by almighty push.
Yeah..nawh.you gotta be trolling. Talking about intellect when you can't spell. Getting personnal, trying to get a rise out of me. You're just afraid of the general consensus, that's why you won't make the thread. The fact you called me a fapboy is kinda proving that you're a child or something. I'm just using common sense and logic here. Idk about you lol
I'm done here unless you can understand these words because you sure as hell couldn't understand the last ones. I don't give two shits about inheritance or ethics about how they got their powers. This is a match-up, that is all, no bashing. Get that through your thick skull or just stop. Have you digested that? We can't proceed unless you understand what I am saying.
Your Obito bit is irrelevant af. I already knew that information, I'm not denying it. In fact I'm doing the opposite. Hiruzen had all the elements without rinnegan, what's your point? if anyone has the rinnegan, they can master all the elements super easily, not that it matters much. Which is how this started btw. Me saying it's almost irrelevant and that it's no big feat CONSIDERING he has the rinnegan.
Teleporting can prevent a hit, which was my point.
Yeah, English isn't your first language so maybe I was a little harsh on you. Look buddy, I'm done convincing you for now. Make the thread if you wish to test your hypothesis. I'm off, it's 4:10 in the morning in Ireland. Caoi.
You can keep your English advice, you process a thought not digest (digesting is the means of breaking down food). You talk about getting personal but began with the cursing and insult over a simple discussion, all i did was return insult hypocrisy like that without seeing you started it first calling me childish lmao. Truthfully i really don't care about your hypothesis , if you heard the saying " If you want something done, go do it yourself" exactly as the quote stated.
firstly minato has half kurama in him and secondly he is so fast. Well itachi is for me the perfect ninja, cos he smart and can knw ur weakness in a matter of secs. i tink it'll b a draw
A TBB wouldn't do it your claiming by stating he can't absorb that much chakra but Kabuto was going to use Nagato to take both Jinchuuurki and there chakra
You must be registered for see images
Frog genjutsu was tryed a second time didn't work it failed and elder killed check
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Giant toad summoning gets there bones broken one shotted again by almighty push.
:lol What? Kabuto wanted to capture the Jins not absorbing all of their Chakras...the Bijuus are sealed inside the hosts you can't simply absorb them, you have to break the seal first.
Oh COME ON, I said don't use Naruto & Killer Bee as examples! Seriously? You compare BM Minato to SM Naruto? Minato can hide the elders inside Kurama Avatar where Nagato can't reach them & they'll prepare the Frog Song.
Then Minato kill Nagato during the cool down, Nagato can't effort to spam ST specially in front of someone as fast as Minato.
Naruto was restrained by Nagato & tried to him with direct hit, that's not gonna happen in Minato's case cause Nagato can't touch him ...Minato can blitz Nagato from his blind spot thus giving him no time to react/counter & put him down for good with a FTG+Rasengan combo.
:lol What? Kabuto wanted to capture the Jins not absorbing all of their Chakras...the Bijuus are sealed inside the hosts you can't simply absorb them, you have to break the seal first.
Oh COME ON, I said don't use Naruto & Killer Bee as examples! Seriously? You compare BM Minato to SM Naruto? Minato can hide the elders inside Kurama Avatar where Nagato can't reach them & they'll prepare the Frog Song.
Then Minato kill Nagato during the cool down, Nagato can't effort to spam ST specially in front of someone as fast as Minato.
Naruto was restrained by Nagato & tried to him with direct hit, that's not gonna happen in Minato's case cause Nagato can't touch him ...Minato can blitz Nagato from his blind spot thus giving him no time to react/counter & put him down for good with a FTG+Rasengan combo.
Kabuto statement "i've got a way of making the jinchuurki mine without Madara finding out" we''ve seen 3 different times were the bijuu were taking without the seals being broken.
Bansho Tenin pulls them out.
blind spots the rinnengan shared links makes up for it's blind spots, and yet he absorb ninjutsu hows he killing or finishing him off with a rasengan almighty push has it's cool down but he can still absorb ninjutsu after.
A TBB wouldn't do it your claiming by stating he can't absorb that much chakra but Kabuto was going to use Nagato to take both Jinchuuurki and there chakra
You must be registered for see images
Frog genjutsu was tryed a second time didn't work it failed and elder killed check
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Giant toad summoning gets there bones broken one shotted again by almighty push.
You must be registered for see images
Rasengan absorbed
You must be registered for see images
You can keep your English advice, you process a thought not digest (digesting is the means of breaking down food). You talk about getting personal but began with the cursing and insult over a simple discussion, all i did was return insult hypocrisy like that without seeing you started it first calling me childish lmao. Truthfully i really don't care about your hypothesis , if you heard the saying " If you want something done, go do it yourself" exactly as the quote stated.
Nice counter argument lmao. As I said, you start screaming 'butthurt'. I explained that I naturally curse to emphasise a point seen as I was repeating myself 2/3 times because you interpreted something wrong and even when I pointed it out, you refused to re-evaluate the original statement so it's understandable. Dw, I could correct your English all day m8 but I won't. You may get a hot thread from this *wink wink* you were the one in the minority, defending your intuition or w/e which is why I suggested you do it. I wasn't in the mood for debating either. Your insults were childish and baseless btw.Never heard 'digest' in regards to thinking? Yup. Definitely not English.
I also like how you ignore facts you can't counter btw. Your last response was entirely about me XD Looks like I was right on the money. (That's also an expression, daisy)
If Naruto can take advantage of the cooldown, Minato sure as hell can with his superior speed. Chances are he'd only try rasengan twice, max and it's not like he'd run out of chakra from it. What stops him from slicing him to bits with a kunai when he catches him off guard? If SM Naruto can trick Pain with transfornations and smoke bombs, Minato is more than capable. That's if he doesn't just blitz him outright btw.
Nice counter argument lmao. As I said, you start screaming 'butthurt'. I explained that I naturally curse to emphasise a point seen as I was repeating myself 2/3 times because you interpreted something wrong and even when I pointed it out, you refused to re-evaluate the original statement so it's understandable. Dw, I could correct your English all day m8 but I won't. You may get a hot thread from this *wink wink* you were the one in the minority, defending your intuition or w/e which is why I suggested you do it. I wasn't in the mood for debating either. Your insults were childish and baseless btw.Never heard 'digest' in regards to thinking? Yup. Definitely not English.
I also like how you ignore facts you can't counter btw. Your last response was entirely about me XD Looks like I was right on the money. (That's also an expression, daisy)
If Naruto can take advantage of the cooldown, Minato sure as hell can with his superior speed. Chances are he'd only try rasengan twice, max and it's not like he'd run out of chakra from it. What stops him from slicing him to bits with a kunai when he catches him off guard? If SM Naruto can trick Pain with transfornations and smoke bombs, Minato is more than capable. That's if he doesn't just blitz him outright btw.
Right i'm the one in the minority but most of the people in the first says different,(how minato loses to deidara,kisame,shisui who are all weaker than nagato) the fact that you starting cursing first shows that your your ass is sitting on hot razors but yet SM naruto still lost right? on top of him not trying to kill him weaken & tired from fighting the whole leaf village and wasn't using his real body and Gedo Mazo so your claim is irrelevant.
Right i'm the one in the minority but most of the people in the first says different,(how minato loses to deidara,kisame,shisui who are all weaker than nagato) the fact that you starting cursing first shows that your your ass is sitting on hot razors but yet SM naruto still lost right? on top of him not trying to kill him weaken & tired from fighting the whole leaf village and wasn't using his real body and Gedo Mazo so your claim is irrelevant.
BM Minato > SM Naruto. Get it through your skull. You're just lying now about people's views, I already explained that my swearing was only emphasusing but you failed to acknowledge that...AGAIN. You were the one with the accusations. "But hurt herpa derp". I'm done with you. You're literally too stupid to insult. Make the thread if you feel so strongly about it.
BM Minato > SM Naruto. Get it through your skull. You're just lying now about people's views, I already explained that my swearing was only emphasusing but you failed to acknowledge that...AGAIN. You were the one with the accusations. "But hurt herpa derp". I'm done with you. You're literally too stupid to insult. Make the thread if you feel so strongly about it.
...We're going around in circles. MINATO ISN'T ****ING NARUTO. I think a few people have already countered Nagato's arsenal. At the very least, you must realise that Minato can't be caught?
Are you Spanish or something?
I'm sick of repeating myself, you just ignore my points, pick them up wrong and blabber on about Nagato absorbing a rasengan. He can't absorb a kunai which I've said multiple times now. The function of frog summons is to cancel out Nagato's summons, which they do. The absorption can be taken advantage of because it's so predictable like Naruto managed to with a transformation and smoke. Are you trying to tell me Minato is less versatile and resourceful? If so gtfo and don't reply. I'm losing interest. Can't he hide/create clones to create a diversion and prepare frog song? Not that it matters much. The only limit is your imagination to the tactics Minato can pull. He died because of a lack of chakra. That is all. Remove that obstacle...
He won't be reviving anyone if there's no paths so that's irrelevant and even if there was. SM Naruto could take the reviving path out. Therefore, BM Minato can. Who said he'd try fight the gedo in the first place btw?
Nagato can't absorb the cloak if he can't catch Minato.
You seem rustled, chum. Which is strange considering I can decipher your English yet you can't seem to understand mine.
