Why Minato LEGIT Defeats Itachi

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Again read my first post in this thread. I never said Minato would break out Tsukiyomi for certain, I said it could go either way and argued about the way Minato could fight and counter Itachi's tuskiyomi. You and the other Itachi wanker are certain that Minato has no way to counter the Tsukiyomi and that it'd one shot him.
So since you're so certain and called me out for speculating in your last post, do you mind showing a scan where Itachi has successfully trapped Minato in his Tsukiyomi?
If you can't then just hold the L and shut up.
No he doesn't have any counter you retarded clown. He gets caught, it's all over. SO ENOUGH AND DEAL WITH IT! Stupid Minato fapper.


Are you that retarded? How does one make eye contact with someone invisible? And the context of my argument was that sensing can be used to fight without relying on one's eyes to see the opponent and I've given enough evidence for that. Not my problem that you lack the intelligence to understand even simple logic and bring in your retarded out of context arguments.
You fucking idiot, naruto is not invisible. I said Madara himself and his Limbo clones made eye contact, that's the only thing that matters. Of course you're too much of a autistic retard to even bother reading the damn post properly. Fucking idiot.


Cee was talking about Jugo being punched and pinned by Ay dumbass. Everyone thought Jugo was done for but then he pulled up that surprise multi chakra cannon move. Read my scans again and this time pay attention you dimwit. Cee was talking about Jugo and then suddenly Sasuke targeted him with his genjutsu.
You dicksucking moron. Did you not read what I just said?

"Cee literally said "What?! Lord Raikage hit him and he still survived?" If he was paying attention to jugo the whole time, he would've seen it coming you worthless pleb."
Like I said he would've seen the attack coming.
Minato sensed Naruto almost immediately after Oro revealed about the war. So it may need kneading chakra but that time is like an instant. What part of Minato teleporting away to enter SM do you not get? Minato's teleporting is in an instant too. If you've run out of arguments to make a decent counter then take the L and shut up but at least don't come with these no sense retorts. Sasuke was able to sense something but their is no evidence of what exactly he sensed other than Oro's comment which doesn't confirm anything. Minato however clearly sensed Naruto and Kyubi's chakra.
This is absolutely retarded and I'm over this shit.
Minato's reaction time is not faster than an instant genjutsu, for him to move instantly he has to activate the jutsu first. Only retarded clown like yourself has this garbage as an excuse. "Minato teleports away then enters sagemode", like shut your dumb****ing ass up. That is out right retarded.


Ok this has gone long enough...
So here Obito tries to grab Minato...
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And Minato teleports behind him and at the same time hits Obito with a rasengan..do you see him weaving any seals
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Or how about here..where Minato has lost both of his arms can't weave any signs but still able to do FTG
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Already weaved it

Funny I don't see anywhere in the NB translation that says Izanami is a MS tech. So where is the source of your claims or are you again pulling shit out of your ass.
I just said NB fan translation was different you retard. NB didn't say it was 3 tomoe either.
 

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No he doesn't have any counter you retarded clown. He gets caught, it's all over. SO ENOUGH AND DEAL WITH IT! Stupid Minato fapper.
Deal with what? Your fanfic lol?

You fucking idiot, naruto is not invisible. I said Madara himself and his Limbo clones made eye contact, that's the only thing that matters. Of course you're too much of a autistic retard to even bother reading the damn post properly. Fucking idiot.
Look who's talking lol....:rolleyes:

You dicksucking moron. Did you not read what I just said?
Lol, I've not been reading your garbage for a long time. Just spreading the salt...:salt::salt:

Like I said he would've seen the attack coming.
But he didn't. But you'e already shown how stupid you're so I don't expect you to understand.


This is absolutely retarded and I'm over this shit.
Minato's reaction time is not faster than an instant genjutsu, for him to move instantly he has to activate the jutsu first. Only retarded clown like yourself has this garbage as an excuse. "Minato teleports away then enters sagemode", like shut your dumb****ing ass up. That is out right retarded.
Sure Minato would wait for Itachi to cast the genjutsu. No you're retarded.

Already weaved it
:lmao: more fanfic...L

I just said NB fan translation was different you retard. NB didn't say it was 3 tomoe either.
But did it say it was MS?
 
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Deal with what? Your fanfic lol?
The only thing fanfic is minato breaking a visual genjutsu by himself considering that no one has done it before.


Lol, I've not been reading your garbage for a long time. Just spreading the salt...:salt::salt:
What's garbage is how you think sensors can counter genjutsu. That's out right retarded.


But he didn't. But you'e already shown how stupid you're so I don't expect you to understand.
He didn't because he thought Raikage took him out too, but you're too retarded to even comprehend that now huh fuckboy?



Sure Minato would wait for Itachi to cast the genjutsu. No you're retarded.
Because Minato's reaction speed is faster than instant genjutsu? No you're just retarded. :lmao:

:lmao: more fanfic...L
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But did it say it was MS?
Does this look like a three tomoe to you? Because NB's translation did not say it was a 3 tomoe.
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As I said before DB facts become inconsistent sometimes as the manga progresses. Anyway if sharingan genjutsu is that powerful then EMS Madara wouldn't have gotten his ass whooped over and over again by Hashirama. All he needed was to simply put Hashi in a genjutsu and then its an easy kill for him. But did that ever happen? No lol.
And just cuz Kurenai, Chee and Orochimaru couldn't break out of genjutsu doesn't prove that Minato won't be able to as well smh. Anyway Itachi himself agrees that every jutsu has a weakness and Tsukiyomi is no exception to that. You're trying to prove something about Itachi that Itachi himself refutes.



Itachi already disputed your claim lol. And Danzo did break out of it...not only he broke it but was also able to immobilize Sasuke.
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:lmao:...if 3T genjutsu one shots then Sasuke should've one shotted Deidara but he barely made out alive or Obito should've one shotted Minato but he got rekt. So no.



Read my replies above.


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If minato gets caught by finger gen, itachi could then layer it with tsukuyomi.
the problem

1.its short ranged
2.considering he know about uchiha being genjutsu user he can summon ma and pa on shoulder to break him out of it

the problem is genjutsu is not landing on him since he can keep on running and lets just say if minato tricks itachi to use Tsukiyomi on one of his clone itachi would get in severe disadvantage since he will suffer from backlash of using it
 

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the problem

1.its short ranged
2.considering he know about uchiha being genjutsu user he can summon ma and pa on shoulder to break him out of it

the problem is genjutsu is not landing on him since he can keep on running and lets just say if minato tricks itachi to use Tsukiyomi on one of his clone itachi would get in severe disadvantage since he will suffer from backlash of using it
It's range limit is meaningless because minato has no intel of it and two minato's primary offensive techniques is in touching distance. secondly if minato didn't bring ma and pa against "madara" (tobi), it's highly unlikely he'd bring them against another uchiha he knows nothing about. but fine, let's pretend he did bring them. he would have to already be attached to them to be able to break the genjutsu fast enough to prevent tsukuyomi. which is highly unlikely since he has to take the time to summon them. which again... is still silly. even jiraiya only summoned the toads only after he realize he couldn't beat pain alone. Minato gets no luxury of that. once he's caught by the genjutsu medium, he's immediately vulnerable to tsukuyomi. Also I'm not debating, which is why I didn't involve FTG. i'm simply saying itachi has more effective ways to pull out tsuku, which is very probable against someone with no full intel on itachi.
 

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The only thing fanfic is minato breaking a visual genjutsu by himself considering that no one has done it before.

What's garbage is how you think sensors can counter genjutsu. That's out right retarded.

He didn't because he thought Raikage took him out too, but you're too retarded to even comprehend that now huh fuckboy?
Because Minato's reaction speed is faster than instant genjutsu? No you're just retarded. :lmao:


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Does this look like a three tomoe to you? Because NB's translation did not say it was a 3 tomoe.
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I can't believe you wasted your time on this degenerate. He is a garden variety Minato wanker in a nutshell: they only weave poorly written fictions and their English is pretty bad as well. They are generally unintelligent and underprivileged fellas. I simply let him have the last word and moved on. The only thing a sane person can do. And can't believe you are such a silly wanker though, Tantulus. Liking this guy's posts is just ... tragic!
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the problem

1.its short ranged
2.considering he know about uchiha being genjutsu user he can summon ma and pa on shoulder to break him out of it

the problem is genjutsu is not landing on him since he can keep on running and lets just say if minato tricks itachi to use Tsukiyomi on one of his clone itachi would get in severe disadvantage since he will suffer from backlash of using it
Sasuke put Deidara under Genjutsu from over 200 feet away when he was in flight. I am pretty sure Itachi can do it as well. He doesn't even need Tsukuyomi, a regular Genjutsu is enough. No ninja has any counter for it. None. Also, nautical miles is a larger quantity compared to kilometers. Simply put, a target moves faster in air than it does on the ground.

And how does he summon Ma and Pa, though? It requires a special ritual to summon them. Not to mention he states that he's shit at Senjutsu. You don't think the toads would have given him the option to summon them too like they gave to Jiraiya and Naruto?
 
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The only thing fanfic is minato breaking a visual genjutsu by himself considering that no one has done it before.
No one has ever put Minato in a genjutsu before either.

What's garbage is how you think sensors can counter genjutsu. That's out right retarded.
No you're retarded.

He didn't because he thought Raikage took him out too, but you're too retarded to even comprehend that now huh fuckboy?
Still in denial of the obvious.

Because Minato's reaction speed is faster than instant genjutsu? No you're just retarded. :lmao:
Yeah Minato would just stand there for Itachi to catch him in a genjutsu l

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Lol.

Does this look like a three tomoe to you? Because NB's translation did not say it was a 3 tomoe.
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Lets discuss this in a separate thread.

Btw, I see the other retard is back lol. I saw him crying like a little b!tch begging people to neg me in another forum...:lmao:

How do you reply a lot of people?
The force is strong with me...XD
 
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I can't believe you wasted your time on this degenerate. He is a garden variety Minato wanker in a nutshell: they only weave poorly written fictions and their English is pretty bad as well. They are generally unintelligent and underprivileged fellas. I simply let him have the last word and moved on. The only thing a sane person can do. And can't believe you are such a silly wanker though, Tantulus. Liking this guy's posts is just ... tragic!
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Sasuke put Deidara under Genjutsu from over 200 feet away when he was in flight. I am pretty sure Itachi can do it as well. He doesn't even need Tsukuyomi, a regular Genjutsu is enough. No ninja has any counter for it. None. Also, nautical miles is a larger quantity compared to kilometers. Simply put, a target moves faster in air than it does on the ground.

And how does he summon Ma and Pa, though? It requires a special ritual to summon them. Not to mention he states that he's shit at Senjutsu. You don't think the toads would have given him the option to summon them too like they gave to Jiraiya and Naruto?
He meant finger gen range
 
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It's range limit is meaningless because minato has no intel of it
Minato knows about uchiha being adept in genjutsu since he is the kage of the same village

and two minato's primary offensive techniques is in touching distance. secondly if minato didn't bring ma and pa against "madara" (tobi), it's highly unlikely he'd bring them against another uchiha he knows nothing about.
yes but by the same logic itachi never used finger genjutsu on anyone except naruto

but fine, let's pretend he did bring them. he would have to already be attached to them to be able to break the genjutsu fast enough to prevent tsukuyomi. which is highly unlikely since he has to take the time to summon them.
yes but minato won't be going face to face against him for tsukuyomi nor will itachi rely on it considering we have canonically seen him getting tricked on using genjutsu on kakashi's clone.Minato can blindside him with rasengan or kunai.He doesn't need to make eye contact

again its the same fight were obito didn't use either chakra recievers;genjutsu;mokuton or katons despite repeteadly using them in other fight.Also minato is far faster than jiraya considering he was complemented by tobirama himself

you see to cast Tsukuyomi itachi would at least need to close the distance.
distance between uchiha brothers when Tsukuyomi is or when after its .The second being kakashi who took tsukuyomi thinking he can fend it via sharingan
the point is eye contact from short range the luxary he won't get against minato who can just run away

which again... is still silly. even jiraiya only summoned the toads only after he realize he couldn't beat pain alone. Minato gets no luxury of that. once he's caught by the genjutsu medium, he's immediately vulnerable to tsukuyomi. Also I'm not debating, which is why I didn't involve FTG. i'm simply saying itachi has more effective ways to pull out tsuku, which is very probable against someone with no full intel on itachi.
yes but jiraiya is no fast as minato.nor minato has vast arsenal as jiraiya.He can keep running unlike sm jiraiya whom Itachi beats

secondary yes without FTG amaterasu would end minato easily since Ei needed v2 to dodge it

Edit: yeah i m done debating too since i know this is gonna lead nowhere.
like i am still gonna get the a long ass quote in that neji vs sakura thread potraying 64 palms as something godly that cannot be fended like last 7 or 8 times :dead:
 
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Minato knows about uchiha being adept in genjutsu since he is the kage of the same village


yes but by the same logic itachi never used finger genjutsu on anyone except naruto
finger gen has nothing to do with uchiha. so no, he'll never expect that which is the entire and only point.

:lmao: if sasuke and kakashi can resist sharingan gen, obviously they would counter a much weaker genjutsu. Kabuto had his eyes close the entire match. so no it's no where even remotely the same logic.



yes but minato won't be going face to face against him for tsukuyomi nor will itachi rely on it considering we have canonically seen him getting tricked on using genjutsu on kakashi's clone.Minato can blindside him with rasengan or kunai.He doesn't need to make eye contact




again its the same fight were obito didn't use either chakra recievers;genjutsu;mokuton or katons despite repeteadly using them in other fight.Also minato is far faster than jiraya considering he was complemented by tobirama himself


you see to cast Tsukuyomi itachi would at least need to close the distance.
distance between uchiha brothers when Tsukuyomi is or when after its .The second being kakashi who took tsukuyomi thinking he can fend it via sharingan
the point is eye contact from short range the luxary he won't get against minato who can just run away
So lemme get this straight. minato without any intel on someone suddenly feels the need to bring back up? lolz stop
so hold on. you know minato can't outrun amat but you think he can blindside itachi? lmao stop. susanoo /< blondie dmg
so somewhere in your mind, minato avoiding eye contact saves him from looking at itachi's hand? haha no.
so even thou blind itachi could react to hebi sasuke, you think MS itachi can't react/disrupt thrown tag kunais? lol

lol obito didn't use his ninjutsu because they were worthless to begin with against someone who can use space-time. all minato had to do the entire fight was just not look directly at his eyes and he was good.


:lmao: you cannot be serious...Not only was itachi half assing his fight with sasuke, his vision was complete garbage at this point even thou in part 1 he caught kakashi in tsukuyomi in mid range and in the war arc naruto had to warn B of tsuku despite long range distance. are seriously telling me sasuke and shisui's koto has better range than tsuku?


yes but jiraiya is no fast as minato.nor minato has vast arsenal as jiraiya.He can keep running unlike sm jiraiya whom Itachi beats

secondary yes without FTG amaterasu would end minato easily since Ei needed v2 to dodge it
The point i'm saying has less to do with jiraiya and minato but more so pein and itachi. pein's fight with jiraiya, depite being obviously superior to the sannin was still something for the latter to be able to compete with on his own long enough till he found a strategy which was summon ma and pa. Itachi is different thou. he technically has the techniques to end games in 1-2 moves without the opponent even knowing until it's over. that's the point i'm saying in why minato in this fight gets no luxury without full intel.

Edit: yeah i m done debating too since i know this is gonna lead nowhere.
like i am still gonna get the a long ass quote in that neji vs sakura thread potraying 64 palms as something godly that cannot be fended like last 7 or 8 times :dead:
Really? I understand wank but to compare itachi vs minato to neji v sakura?
especially unlike the latter, Itachi and minato has counters? gg

itachi > minato w/o intel :low-mid diff
minato >= itachi w/ intel. :mid-high diff
edo itachi > minato :low-mid diff
edo minato >> itachi :low diff
edo minato > edo itachi :mid diff
 
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No one has ever put Minato in a genjutsu before either.
Minato never fought a sharingan user in his life before excluding Obito. Hashirama fought more uchihas then Minato ever did so your excuse is stupid.

No you're retarded.
Retard stay retarded



Still in denial of the obvious.
Hopeless


Yeah Minato would just stand there for Itachi to catch him in a genjutsu l
Between the time of instant and instant, yes he would. He wouldn't even get a chance to breathe before he gets caught.


shurikenjutsu requires chakra so :sdo: hand seal

Lets discuss this in a separate thread.

Btw, I see the other retard is back lol. I saw him crying like a little b!tch begging people to neg me in another forum...:lmao:
You get destroyed on the fanfic about sensors being able to get caught in a genjutsu retard, let him neg you.
All your little fap boys along with you too.
 
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