Why Minato LEGIT Defeats Itachi

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Kabuto could sense Itachi prepping Izanami by recording lame shit with his eyes for a badly edited motion picture. Yup, he totally did. Oh wait ...

There goes the comment about "sensing" Genjutsu. Shit after shit is posted by Minato wankers. :kd:

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Minato never fought a sharingan user in his life before excluding Obito. Hashirama fought more uchihas then Minato ever did so your excuse is stupid.

So your excuse that Minato falls prey to uchiha genjutsu is fanfic cuz you have no proof and the only uchiha he fought one on one was Obito who couldn't cast a genjutsu and got soloed immediately.

Retard stay retarded

Yup they do, just like you....

Hopeless

Indeed.

Between the time of instant and instant, yes he would. He wouldn't even get a chance to breathe before he gets caught.

Do you have proof?

shurikenjutsu requires chakra so :sdo: hand seal

Yeah Minato can use hand seals with his arms ripped off....

You get destroyed on the fanfic about sensors being able to get caught in a genjutsu retard,

Says the guy who doesn't even know what he's arguing about. This discussion was about Minato and Itachi, not sensor vs sharingan genjutsu dumbass. Your lack of attention to details is showing over and over again.

let him neg you.
All your little fap boys along with you too.

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[Rikudou Tobi]

So your excuse that Minato falls prey to uchiha genjutsu is fanfic cuz you have no proof and the only uchiha he fought one on one was Obito who couldn't cast a genjutsu and got soloed immediately.

That is the most retarded excuse I've ever heard and Obito never casted a genjutsu on him in the first place. It's like saying Jiraiya is immune to genjutsu because he fought Itachi.

Do you have proof?

Do you have proof of Minato being faster than instant?

Yeah Minato can use hand seals with his arms ripped off....

Minato is edo tensei with unlimited stamina and chakra, what kind of fuckshit manga are you reading? The manga only showed hand seals of newly introduced techniques, besides that kishi skipped handseals for almost every edo tensei that was showing old moves.

Says the guy who doesn't even know what he's arguing about. This discussion was about Minato and Itachi, not sensor vs sharingan genjutsu dumbass. Your lack of attention to details is showing over and over again.

It was sensor vs sharingan stupid. My first post is about me laughing at you considering a contract seal is abe to break genjutsus.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

That is the most retarded excuse I've ever heard and Obito never casted a genjutsu on him in the first place. It's like saying Jiraiya is immune to genjutsu because he fought Itachi.

Yep he never casted genjutsu because he knew that he won't be able to catch him in genjutsu. And Jiraiya and Itachi never fought and their situation was entirely different, Itachi never wanted to fight Jiraiya.

Do you have proof of Minato being faster than instant?

Don't you read the manga. His FTG teleportation is instantaneous.

Minato is edo tensei with unlimited stamina and chakra, what kind of fuckshit manga are you reading? The manga only showed hand seals of newly introduced techniques, besides that kishi skipped handseals for almost every edo tensei that was showing old moves.

Here, hold another L...

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Hiruzen used hand seals and we've already seen his fire and earth style techniques.

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All kages used hand seals to cast a barrier around jubi and we've already seen similar technique before

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There are many more if one actually reads the manga...

All the previous hokages and other edo tensei's used hand signs when needed ofc doesn't matter if it was new or old. Anyway Minato lost his arms for quite sometime, so when do you think he weaved the hand signs to teleport away Madara's TSBs using FTG lol?

It was sensor vs sharingan stupid. My first post is about me laughing at you considering a contract seal is abe to break genjutsus.

And I've been laughing ever since reading your retarded fanfics lol. You jump into a discussion and don't know what's being discussed and what's more, you're still delusional...

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yep he never casted genjutsu because he knew that he won't be able to catch him in genjutsu. And Jiraiya and Itachi never fought and their situation was entirely different, Itachi never wanted to fight Jiraiya.

Obito never wanted to fight Minato too. Otherwise he would've came with a gunbai fan and use all his other techniques he learned to kill Minato so my Jiraiya/Itachi analogy.
Bold part is a baseless stupid retarded assumption, especially when he put minato's gokage colleague yagura a perfect jinchuuriki in a genjutsu rather easily off panel.

Don't you read the manga. His FTG teleportation is instantaneous.

Don't you read? reaction/striking speed is not FTG.

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Dumbass, and genjutsu is instant.

Here, hold another L...

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Hiruzen used hand seals and we've already seen his fire and earth style techniques.

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All kages used hand seals to cast a barrier around jubi and we've already seen similar technique before

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There are many more if one actually reads the manga...

All the previous hokages and other edo tensei's used hand signs when needed ofc doesn't matter if it was new or old. Anyway Minato lost his arms for quite sometime, so when do you think he weaved the hand signs to teleport away Madara's TSBs using FTG lol?

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Learn to read my post stupid.

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Known of those jutsus the edo hokages did were old at all, they were all newly introduced techniques that showed seals.
And it's clear that I'm right because...
>VOTE Hashirama he used seals to create wood human and wood dragon, but as edo tensei he did not.
>Hiruzen used hand seals for shadow clone shurikenjutsu against Orochimaru but did not as edo tensei. (When he used the 5 element ninjutsu, those five elements had the same handseal so clearly it's different from pre timeskip)
>Minato used seals with ftg prior death, at edo tensei he didn't use any
So using edo tensei as an example is stupid when they don't follow the protocol as a living shinobi does. All former powers are restored to them prior to death regardless of the state they are in.

And I've been laughing ever since reading your retarded fanfics lol. You jump into a discussion and don't know what's being discussed and what's more, you're still delusional...

Well like I said before, retard stay retarded. You can just look at the first page I laughed at you for saying contract seal can break a genjutsu, that already stood for every ocular genjutsu user the manga has.
Of course the dumbass fanfic believer would say sensors negate all genjutsus and would call every manga page posted so far a fanfic. You're retarded, so fucking retarded. I want you to know that, you need to know how retarded you are and the problem here is that you are not getting how really retarded you really are.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Itachi wins high diff. And you are crazy if Itachi was bad in Amatarasu, Every time he used it, it did something useful. Unlike Sasuke.
Sasuke can create more variations with it tough. But it was Itachi who gave him that after all. He used it smarter.

Like i said, Itachi wins high diff. Only because of Susanoo.
Minato got the speed, but almost no high power strength. His V4 Susanoo should counter his FTG Rasengan.

Well Minato in BM Mode is a different story, if he has access to that he could nuke Itachi.

 

[TheLostShinobi]

Itachi wins high diff. And you are crazy if Itachi was bad in Amatarasu, Every time he used it, it did something useful. Unlike Sasuke.
Sasuke can create more variations with it tough. But it was Itachi who gave him that after all. He used it smarter.

Like i said, Itachi wins high diff. Only because of Susanoo.
Minato got the speed, but almost no high power strength. His V4 Susanoo should counter his FTG Rasengan.

Well Minato in BM Mode is a different story, if he has access to that he could nuke Itachi.

-Amaterasu gets dodged
-Tsukyuomi gets dodged via not staring him in the eyes
-Susanoo gets stomped by sound genjutsu

Wat do?

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

-Amaterasu gets dodged
-Tsukyuomi gets dodged via not staring him in the eyes
-Susanoo gets stomped by sound genjutsu

Wat do?

Is this with BM or without?

Minato blast him with BM

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Obito never wanted to fight Minato too. Otherwise he would've came with a gunbai fan and use all his other techniques he learned to kill Minato so my Jiraiya/Itachi analogy.
Bold part is a baseless stupid retarded assumption, especially when he put minato's gokage colleague yagura a perfect jinchuuriki in a genjutsu rather easily off panel.

Yeah he unleashed Kurama on Konoha and he wasn't expecting that Minato would engage him lol..... and then he gets soloed. If Obito believed that he could actually catch Minato in a genjutsu, he would've.

Don't you read? reaction/striking speed is not FTG.

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Dumbass, and genjutsu is instant.

You're such an idiot lol. You think Itachi doesn't need to react or think before casting a genjutsu. His reaction or the thought of casting a genjutsu is not instantaneous but the genjutsu when cast is. Same goes for Minato, his reaction is very fast but I never said its instantaneous, its his FTG teleportation that is instantaneous. So while Itachi tries to cast a genjutsu Minato wouldn't simply stand there, he'll definitely try to avoid any eye contact and keeping teleporting randomly..

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Learn to read my post stupid.

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Known of those jutsus the edo hokages did were old at all, they were all newly introduced techniques that showed seals.
And it's clear that I'm right because...
>VOTE Hashirama he used seals to create wood human and wood dragon, but as edo tensei he did not.
>Hiruzen used hand seals for shadow clone shurikenjutsu against Orochimaru but did not as edo tensei. (When he used the 5 element ninjutsu, those five elements had the same handseal so clearly it's different from pre timeskip)
>Minato used seals with ftg prior death, at edo tensei he didn't use any
So using edo tensei as an example is stupid when they don't follow the protocol as a living shinobi does. All former powers are restored to them prior to death regardless of the state they are in.

Nice try but no. So basically you're trying to say that, Kishi only chose to show hand seals for all the new techniques that the edo hokages used. Just explain this to me, Minato lost his arms for quite sometime before he teleported Madara's tsbs here, so when and how do you think did he make hand signs without any hands?

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You're just stupid bro.

Well like I said before, retard stay retarded. You can just look at the first page I laughed at you for saying contract seal can break a genjutsu, that already stood for every ocular genjutsu user the manga has.
Of course the dumbass fanfic believer would say sensors negate all genjutsus and would call every manga page posted so far a fanfic. You're retarded, so fucking retarded. I want you to know that, you need to know how retarded you are and the problem here is that you are not getting how really retarded you really are.

@Bold And I agreed that you're retarded.... So what's the problem now?

Keep the fanfic coming bro.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah he unleashed Kurama on Konoha and he wasn't expecting that Minato would engage him lol..... and then he gets soloed. If Obito believed that he could actually catch Minato in a genjutsu, he would've.

He killed Minato so you can cut that stupid cheeky shit out. Like I said he didn't try to kill Minato, otherwise he would end him with the same genjutsu that ended yagura. When Obito got serious he used more techniques, when he hardly tried he only used kamui to warp people.

You're such an idiot lol. You think Itachi doesn't need to react or think before casting a genjutsu. His reaction or the thought of casting a genjutsu is not instantaneous but the genjutsu when cast is. Same goes for Minato, his reaction is very fast but I never said its instantaneous, its his FTG teleportation that is instantaneous. So while Itachi tries to cast a genjutsu Minato wouldn't simply stand there, he'll definitely try to avoid any eye contact and keeping teleporting randomly..

His genjutsu is casted as face as a mere thought, of course it's faster than Minato's reaction you dumb retard. Look at how you post about Minato's reaction speed being fast when he was touched by Obito 2-3 times. He ain't avoiding any eye contact because he isn't trained to fight without using his eyes.

Nice try but no. So basically you're trying to say that, Kishi only chose to show hand seals for all the new techniques that the edo hokages used. Just explain this to me, Minato lost his arms for quite sometime before he teleported Madara's tsbs here, so when and how do you think did he make hand signs without any hands?

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You're just stupid bro.

Hey stupid, don't ask me a stupid question when you answered it yourself. Read the bold part stupid.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

He killed Minato so you can cut that stupid cheeky shit out. Like I said he didn't try to kill Minato, otherwise he would end him with the same genjutsu that ended yagura. When Obito got serious he used more techniques, when he hardly tried he only used kamui to warp people.

More fanfic with lol. Obito got soloed by Minato and ran away.

His genjutsu is casted as face as a mere thought, of course it's faster than Minato's reaction you dumb retard. Look at how you post about Minato's reaction speed being fast when he was touched by Obito 2-3 times. He ain't avoiding any eye contact because he isn't trained to fight without using his eyes.

Again I didn't compare Itachi's genjutsu to Minato's reaction speed dumbass. I'd ask you to read my post again but you're too stupid to understand basic logic lol.

Hey stupid, don't ask me a stupid question when you answered it yourself. Read the bold part stupid.

The bold part doesn't explain how Minato used hand signs without having hands. Can you explain bro or take the L again.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

More fanfic with lol. Obito got soloed by Minato and ran away.

Summoned kyubi and killed his ass at the age of 14.

Again I didn't compare Itachi's genjutsu to Minato's reaction speed dumbass. I'd ask you to read my post again but you're too stupid to understand basic logic lol.

Retard, read a again. A MERE THOUGHT, that's how fast as he can cast the genjutsu. But you're too retarded to properly read the post I made. Fucking idiot.

The bold part doesn't explain how Minato used hand signs without having hands. Can you explain bro or take the L again.

Yes it does fuckboi.
"So basically you're trying to say that, Kishi only chose to show hand seals for all the new techniques that the edo hokages used"
All the old techniques the hokages used in the war did not use hand seals a edo. Edo tensei does not use their chakra and they require every jutsu they had before they die. Hiruzen used no signs for shadow shuriken jutsu and Hashirama used no signs for wood dragon/human as edo tensei.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Summoned kyubi and killed his ass at the age of 14.

Lel, he got soloed by Minato real hard. Do you even read the manga?

Retard, read a again. A MERE THOUGHT, that's how fast as he can cast the genjutsu. But you're too retarded to properly read the post I made. Fucking idiot.

Yeah and all it takes is a mere thought to do FTG teleportation.

Yes it does fuckboi.
"So basically you're trying to say that, Kishi only chose to show hand seals for all the new techniques that the edo hokages used"
All the old techniques the hokages used in the war did not use hand seals a edo. Edo tensei does not use their chakra and they require every jutsu they had before they die. Hiruzen used no signs for shadow shuriken jutsu and Hashirama used no signs for wood dragon/human as edo tensei.

So how did an arm less Minato use hand seals?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Lel, he got soloed by Minato real hard. Do you even read the manga?

He didn't solo him if hiruzen and the whole village helped. And last time I checked, he killed minato. Fact.

Yeah and all it takes is a mere thought to do FTG teleportation.

Not without kneading chakra no. Sharingan is chakra already reflecting in thee eyes, it takes a train of thought to execute it instantly. If minato's reaction and transportation is so instant, minato wouldn't of been touched by Obito 2-3 times with the slowest kamui transportation he has. Nobody beat genjutsu speed in the manga.

So how did an arm less Minato use hand seals?

Like I said, all edo tenseis all use former moves without hand seals. So get that through your thickhead. Explain why Kishi gave edo tenseis that capability. Why did Hashirama needed to use seals for wood dragon/human alive but not in edo tensei?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

He didn't solo him if hiruzen and the whole village helped. And last time I checked, he killed minato. Fact.

Then why did he run off after being soloed by Minato?

Not without kneading chakra no. Sharingan is chakra already reflecting in thee eyes, it takes a train of thought to execute it instantly. If minato's reaction and transportation is so instant, minato wouldn't of been touched by Obito 2-3 times with the slowest kamui transportation he has. Nobody beat genjutsu speed in the manga.

What type of retarded logic is that lol? If genjutsu was that instant and deadly then why did Obito even need to touch him lol. He should've simply used genjutsu on Minato.

Like I said, all edo tenseis all use former moves without hand seals. So get that through your thickhead. Explain why Kishi gave edo tenseis that capability. Why did Hashirama needed to use seals for wood dragon/human alive but not in edo tensei?

Can you pull a DB scan to prove that. I am sure DB won;t miss that about the Edo tensei if that were true.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Then why did he run off after being soloed by Minato?

Because Minato was going to die by his hand, deal. He was too soft anyways, he actually tried in the war unlike he did against Minato and Hiruzen.

What type of retarded logic is that lol? If genjutsu was that instant and deadly then why did Obito even need to touch him lol. He should've simply used genjutsu on Minato.

Well for the past 600 chapter we know that Obito and Tobi needs to touch people to warp into kamui world. Only a retard such as your self would think he needs to touch somebody to cast a genjutsu. Sig worthy stupidity right here.

Can you pull a DB scan to prove that. I am sure DB won;t miss that about the Edo tensei if that were true.

DB has not been translated yet.

Now, Did Hashirama used hand seals for wood dragon/human as edo tensei or not? Are you saying you do not need hand seals for wooddragon/human? :sdo:

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Because Minato was going to die by his hand, deal. He was too soft anyways, he actually tried in the war unlike he did against Minato and Hiruzen.

Yeah he was soft enough to wipe of his entire clan with Itachi....

Well for the past 600 chapter we know that Obito and Tobi needs to touch people to warp into kamui world. Only a retard such as your self would think he needs to touch somebody to cast a genjutsu. Sig worthy stupidity right here.

And only a retard like you won't get the question being asked.

DB has not been translated yet.

Now, Did Hashirama used hand seals for wood dragon/human as edo tensei or not? Are you saying you do not need hand seals for wooddragon/human? :sdo:

How does that prove that "all edo tenseis all use former moves without hand seals."...
So all this has been your fanfic with no proof again.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah he was soft enough to wipe of his entire clan with Itachi....

Soft enough to create a world where Minato, kakashi, and Rin are in it but not the fellow clansmen (family) he killed. Clansmen that with powerful ocular powers and numbers, they are more than a match for minato to handle. Yet, he did it swiftly off panel.
Even with his fight with kakashi he couldn't bring himself to kill him, yet he can take out the mist village along with the 4th mizukage by himself.

And only a retard like you won't get the question being asked.

Only a retard would ask such a stupid queston, because you seem to be the only one that doesn't get the plot to the whole story.

How does that prove that "all edo tenseis all use former moves without hand seals."...
So all this has been your fanfic with no proof again.

Alive uses seal

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Edo tensei no seal

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And dumbass says no proof and fanfic? Stfu

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Soft enough to create a world where Minato, kakashi, and Rin are in it but not the fellow clansmen (family) he killed. Clansmen that with powerful ocular powers and numbers, they are more than a match for minato to handle. Yet, he did it swiftly off panel.
Even with his fight with kakashi he couldn't bring himself to kill him, yet he can take out the mist village along with the 4th mizukage by himself.

That was him being stupid not soft. And you too are stupid for thinking so lol.

Only a retard would ask such a stupid queston, because you seem to be the only one that doesn't get the plot to the whole story.

Look who's talking.
You can't even read the manga properly without inserting your retarded fanfics...

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And dumbass says no proof and fanfic? Stfu

First learn to read bro then jump in an argument.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That was him being stupid not soft. And you too are stupid for thinking so lol.

That's called being soft whether you think it's stupid or not. You're just too retarded to think that he actual attempted Minato's life the moment he tried to warp away minato into kamui world. And he still got killed by him.

Look who's talking.
You can't even read the manga properly without inserting your retarded fanfics...

This is retarded rambling that lacks any value or sense to any argument being made. You're saying that minato being able to get caught in a genjutsu is fanfic? You're retarded you autistic fuckboi.

First learn to read bro then jump in an argument.

Ironic statement, I just showed you all previous hokage in edo tensei not preforming seals when casting their old former jutsus. That's the proof.