Why Kaguya need a host?

[Rohan]

What about my theory/logic, do you agree?

There is a limit to how much chakra a person can control. Once that limit passes, your body starts to expand and mutate horribly. Notable Examples are : Madara, Obito and Kaguya losing control over Juubi Chakra, Diedara blowing up, etc,etc.

The main reason why Kaguya lost control though was because she had the Nine Bijuus with her. The Nine Bijuus were not perfectly fused into one being, and when Naruto threw external Bijuu chakra sources at her, it created a chain Reaction causing a Mini Chibaku Tensei Effect. They all separated into different beings.

It's true Kaguya was absorbing Chakra from the victims of Mugen Tsukuyomi. But, she had a limit of controlling it. She lost control of all that chakra eventually and was forced to separate from it and form a Massive Gudoudama. In science terms, it would be called the Big Bang Ball, The End/Beginning of a World.

 

[Ansatsuken]

All you saying is speculation bro.

Scan 1. Kaguya reacted to Naruto's Bijuu RasenShuriken which contains the Bijuu chakra.

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You see the chakra flowing out from the crack on the land into Rabbit Juubi body. Kaguya absorb more chakra for stabilizing his beast form my friend.

Scan 2. Only tells of her Kekkei Moru. The Bijuu chakra completely absorb shows that the Jutsu is complete.

BZ said Kaguya managed to stabilize the Bijuu. Kaguya managed to stabilize it because she absorb more chakra to neutralize the effect of Naruto's Bijuus FRS. BZ said it

Here was BZ assumption

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I want to tell you that Kaguya need large amount of chakra for her to change form at will similar like how she need large amount of chakra to neutralize Naruto's attack that destabilize Bijuu.

Scan 3. Nothing in the Manga imply such.

Here I will try to connect it

Juubi in that scan #3 lack very large chakra, not just his/her own chakra but Shinobis chakra also. Because of that Juubi cant combine with BZ(Kaguya Will) to revive Kaguya back at that stages. Its because that Juubi lack massive amount of chakra, BZ knows that. And as the result they must find someone to do the first job that is collect back all chakra using IT . Madara was that person.

And its happen Madara carried Juubi inside his body and there is no need for Kaguya to separated from Madara. She just take control over Madara body instead.

But after Kaguya collected the amount of chakra that necessary for her. She actually never need Madara to change her form.

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This rabbit Juubi just need to spit out Madara from her body and Kaguya still can change her form at will because she already have good amount of chakra to do so.

The key word here is Chakra

 

[Rikodou Mode]

For the same reason Naruto and Sasuke needed Indra and Ashura's chakra to meet Hagoromo

 

[Rohan]

P.S: Something I would like to Add :-

Just like how the Spirit (Yin) is immortal, even the Body (Yang) can become immortal if the God Tree captures everyone into Mugen Tsukuyomi and turns the Target's body into White Zetsus. White Zetsus don't need food, Water, Oxygen, etc and are in a way Immortal.

Even in this case, The immortality stems from the God Tree.

Spirit Immortality : God Tree Fruit.

Body Immortality : God Tree.

 

[SSU]

You mean the gedo mazou that Madara summoned from the moon to Earth?

Yea. That is the body of the 10 tails, and she became apart of it.

 

[Omar19992010]

She needed Infinite Tsukuyomi to happen because that's how she would collect back all her Chakra.

Kaguya= Juubi + All Chakra on the Planet

Madara's the only one who can absorb Chakra from the People in Infinite Tsukuyomi due to him activating it.

She needed Madara's Body so she could absorb all the Chakra from the People in Infinite Tsukuyomi so she could come back.

I hope that's a decent enough answer.

 

[V h o]

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The Chibaku Tensei seperated Kaguya's spirit. This spirit was transferred to Black Zetsu. (My reasoning for this is given below). Since, Kaguya's spirit was in Black Zetsu; Kabuto would not be able to Summon her spirit for Edo Tensei. It's similar to how the Hokage's spirits were trapped in the Reaper Death Spirit. They were only Edo Tenseid when Orochimaru freed them from the Reaper Death Spirit. So, Kabuto will have to use many dubious means to separate Kaguya's spirit from Black Zetsu, her will.



The Chibaku Tensei seal in the manga separates Yin, The Spirit form Yang, The Body. Chibaku Tensei has only shown to seal Yang, the Body, Never Yin, The Spirit. In Naruto and Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei, The Nine Bijuus and Kaguya were spirits (Yin) and were not sealed away, they separated instead. Only the Gedo Mazou (Yang) was sealed. The same also happened with Hagoromo and Hamura's Sealing. The Yin, Spirit of the Juubi is what made Hagoromo the Juubi's Jinchuriki. This Spirit would then be reforged into the Nine Bijuus.

Kaguya's Spirit, the Rabbit was separated form the Juubi's body the Gedo Mazou during Hagoromo and Hamura's Chibaku Tensei. Kaguya's spirit would then use a medium to form Black Zetsu. The highest probability of the medium is Hamura's Staff, we never knew what happened to it and Black Zetsu behaves and is formed from the same substance as the staffs.

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It's fragemented, he never put it in one post. ).

The God Tree's fruit has immortality as one of it's powers. This power was taken by Kaguya, then inherited by Hagoromo and Hamura and spread to all of Humanity by Hagoromo's Ninshuu. The body is not immortal, because it crumbles away, But the spirit is immortal. So technically, every shinobi has inherited the God Tree's immortality as the Spirit will never die.

Just because you are a Spirit doesn't mean you died. It shows you got rid of material Connections, i.e; The body and attained enlightenment, i.e; Immortality.

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Now back to the main topic, a Major Question rises here if you go by my logic. If the Gedo Mazou is indeed Kaguya's Body why was Madara's body even relevant ?

It's simple. The Gedo Mazou was an Old and shell body devoid of powers. On, the flip side, Madara's body was fresh, young and was very close to Kaguya's power. That's why Black Zetsu stabbed him, Transferred Kaguya's Spirit (Yin) into Madara's body (Yang) re-creating Kaguya (Yin/Yang).

Wasn't Kaguya's spirit inside the holy tree, that came out of the juubi?

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Yea. That is the body of the 10 tails, and she became apart of it.

Wait pause...but the ten-tails is Kaguya herself a notion made by black zetsu, when Kaguya was getting sealed she turned into the mazou, The mazou seems to actually be a depowered form of Kaguya, it's only when the mazou absorbs all the tailed-beast that it becomes the juubi who in itself is just an unstabilized Kaguya.

 

[SSU]

Wait pause...but the ten-tails is Kaguya herself a notion made by black zetsu, when Kaguya was getting sealed she turned into the mazou, The mazou seems to actually be a depowered form of Kaguya, it's only when the mazou absorbs all the tailed-beast that it becomes the juubi who in itself is just an unstabilized Kaguya.

I don't think that Kaguya IS the 10 tails, but apart of it. When she ate the fruit something changed in her and she became a different person. I must have been the juubi "taking over" and eventually she turned into the juubi (part Kaguya/part fruit)

So the way I see it:

Mazou + 9 tailed beasts = juubi (Kaguya un-woken) + ashura chakra (RSM) + Indra (rinnegan) + BZ (her missing piece, the part of her that she separated before she was sealed to get her revenge) = Kaguya

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

I don't think that Kaguya IS the 10 tails, but apart of it. When she ate the fruit something changed in her and she became a different person. I must have been the juubi "taking over" and eventually she turned into the juubi (part Kaguya/part fruit)

So the way I see it:

Mazou + 9 tailed beasts = juubi (Kaguya un-woken) + ashura chakra (RSM) + Indra (rinnegan) + BZ (her missing piece, the part of her that she separated before she was sealed to get her revenge) = Kaguya

I get where you're coming from but you're making assumptions the manga already disproved I'm almost tempted to bring up scans if you forgot already what black zetsu said. Among other things since these are assumptions, this would probably work BEFORE the black zetsu chapter but it's after so...he explicitly said Kaguya was the juubu, Naruto denied this and said that the juubi itself was sealed to. Which black zetsu called him slow basically and said that the juubi was infact kaguya. Saying the fruit and kaguya being seperate entities is like saying the mind awakening pill and kiba are separate entities.........it's an inanimate fruit, even the sage said his mother was corrupted due to power, it's a cliché thing in anime, person wants peace>person obtains godly power to accomplish said goal<person brings about peace<person is praised as a hero>Godlike power and praise go to person's head<Person gets corrupted by power<person uses power for evil<people fear person. That's basically how it goes, many people in to day's society get corrupted when placed in a position of power this is why the sage said that noone should have too much power. The thing that corrupted Kaguya is called narcissism. If you continue to deny I will have to use manga facts and I'm sure you're wise enough not to deny manga facts.

 

[davidou]

Kaguya just waited for Madara's IT to solo Madara. Why?

1/It's a good strategy , let the arrogant and presomptuous guy make the job for you.

2/She wasn't able to take over Madara without the IT chakra.
Madara has Juubi in his corpse , so it's probable that she has no chakra , she could have waited for Madara to release the chakra of the IT to use it to take over Madara.

3/Tobirama:"The best moment for a surprise attack is when the opponent starts to smell his victory."

 

[Seventh Sama]

Seems like she needed a living body in order to be fully revived.