Why Kaguya need a host?

[Nagi]

Kaguya is one with the shinju and all the tailed beasts put together in her at first right?

So why the did Kaguya need a host to come back into the open? She should've appear once Madara absorbed them tail beasts into the Ten-Tails.

 

[Rohan]

She was a Spirit, she needed a body in order to interact with the Physical World.

 

[Amazeballs]

Apparently she needed the chakra from the people trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi in order to be revived.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Well she only becomes the juubi when her power is out of control, she needed someone who could concentrate all that power that she held, as her conscious was singular (as the juubi) plus her power was wild. Kaguya herself is the manifestation of all the world's chakra as all chakra belonged to prime kaguya, so in order to sustain such a powerful form, she needed someone who could concentrate all that said power, power madara nearly imploded from taking in a testament to kaguya's power. Think of it this way, hagoromo needed a certain amount of chakra to sustain his corporal form, Kaguya must be the sane that she needs a certain amount of chakra to sustain her fork as well.

 

[Nagi]

She was a Spirit, she needed a body in order to interact with the Physical World.

ah then BZ should've made Kabuto edo summon her. Unless her real body had been destroy.

 

[SSU]

Her real body was in the moon. She needed a host in order to come back to "life"

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

She was a Spirit, she needed a body in order to interact with the Physical World.

She can't even due she's immortal, spirit would imply that she's dead, even though she technically can't die, just like how tailed beast that are technically an extension of kaguya may die but they get reincarnated so they truly cannot die. She also needed someone with the rinne sharnningan like her, kind of like how the rinnegan brings forth hagoromo's chakra, the rinne sharnningsn brings forth kaguya's chakra in a sense, madara already had the body he needed the eye

 

[Ansatsuken]

its because Madara happen to carried Juubi inside his body plus Kaguya still cant stabilize Juubi into human form yet because lack of necessary amount of chakra.

Because of that she need Madara body to gained human form and absorb Chakra from IT. Its after she became Rabbit juubi and absorbed more chakra from IT is when she can turn into human form at will.

 

[Gerkak]

Kaguya is made entirely of chakra, she has no true physical form, she is like orochimaru in a sense. Both beings who need vessels to interact with the material reality

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Her real body was in the moon. She needed a host in order to come back to "life"

You mean the gedo mazou that Madara summoned from the moon to Earth?

 

[Aznkidd]

Because she got sealed away by yin yang seal. So to break the seal or by pass it, she needs a body that contain bijuu, rinnegan.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Wow! there are alot of theories hereLol

 

[Joon]

She was a Spirit, she needed a body in order to interact with the Physical World.

Out of all replied, I agree with this. Black Zetsu - being her will - serves only as a catalyst, thus reviving her to her full form.

 

[Nagi]

Wow! there are lot of theories hereLol

yes indeed.

 

[IndraGripen]

She was a Spirit, she needed a body in order to interact with the Physical World.

Basicly yes...

 

[Ansatsuken]

Out of all replied, I agree with this. Black Zetsu - being her will - serves only as a catalyst, thus reviving her to her full form.

But I think its because she cant stabilize her form yet as Juubi. Madara happen to carried Juubi after Obito and he is the perfect vessel for Kaguya compared to Obito.

Madara is complete sage with proper 6 path attire, two rinnegan, and third eyes on one body and also having half Kurama wheres Obito is different.

The proof that Kaguya can change her juubi form at will is here

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But Kaguya need some amount of chakra to stabilize her Beast form. Same also can be applied to this Juubi

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That juubi is Kaguya beast form and as we know Kaguya is part of that. And logically if Kaguya can change her form at that stage, she not needed human vessel to revive back but only BZ.

But why she cant evolve back to human form?

Its because in that stage she don't have necessary chakra to revive, that's why she need perfect human vessel.

Kaguya can turned into human form at will but he need large amount of chakra to do that

 

[V h o]

Kaguya needed more chakra, kaguya's original form had all chakra beside hagoromo and hamura. So she was drastically weaken and even the juubi couldn't revive in it's full form since it was missing 2 bijuu. Even if kaguya didn't take madara's body she probably couldn't return to her form until she had enough chakra.

 

[Rohan]

ah then BZ should've made Kabuto edo summon her. Unless her real body had been destroy.

The Chibaku Tensei seperated Kaguya's spirit. This spirit was transferred to Black Zetsu. (My reasoning for this is given below). Since, Kaguya's spirit was in Black Zetsu; Kabuto would not be able to Summon her spirit for Edo Tensei. It's similar to how the Hokage's spirits were trapped in the Reaper Death Spirit. They were only Edo Tenseid when Orochimaru freed them from the Reaper Death Spirit. So, Kabuto will have to use many dubious means to separate Kaguya's spirit from Black Zetsu, her will.

She can't even due she's immortal, spirit would imply that she's dead, even though she technically can't die, just like how tailed beast that are technically an extension of kaguya may die but they get reincarnated so they truly cannot die. She also needed someone with the rinne sharnningan like her, kind of like how the rinnegan brings forth hagoromo's chakra, the rinne sharnningsn brings forth kaguya's chakra in a sense, madara already had the body he needed the eye

The Chibaku Tensei seal in the manga separates Yin, The Spirit form Yang, The Body. Chibaku Tensei has only shown to seal Yang, the Body, Never Yin, The Spirit. In Naruto and Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei, The Nine Bijuus and Kaguya were spirits (Yin) and were not sealed away, they separated instead. Only the Gedo Mazou (Yang) was sealed. The same also happened with Hagoromo and Hamura's Sealing. The Yin, Spirit of the Juubi is what made Hagoromo the Juubi's Jinchuriki. This Spirit would then be reforged into the Nine Bijuus.

Kaguya's Spirit, the Rabbit was separated form the Juubi's body the Gedo Mazou during Hagoromo and Hamura's Chibaku Tensei. Kaguya's spirit would then use a medium to form Black Zetsu. The highest probability of the medium is Hamura's Staff, we never knew what happened to it and Black Zetsu behaves and is formed from the same substance as the staffs.

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It's fragemented, he never put it in one post. ).

The God Tree's fruit has immortality as one of it's powers. This power was taken by Kaguya, then inherited by Hagoromo and Hamura and spread to all of Humanity by Hagoromo's Ninshuu. The body is not immortal, because it crumbles away, But the spirit is immortal. So technically, every shinobi has inherited the God Tree's immortality as the Spirit will never die.

Just because you are a Spirit doesn't mean you died. It shows you got rid of material Connections, i.e; The body and attained enlightenment, i.e; Immortality.

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Now back to the main topic, a Major Question rises here if you go by my logic. If the Gedo Mazou is indeed Kaguya's Body why was Madara's body even relevant ?

It's simple. The Gedo Mazou was an Old and shell body devoid of powers. On, the flip side, Madara's body was fresh, young and was very close to Kaguya's power. That's why Black Zetsu stabbed him, Transferred Kaguya's Spirit (Yin) into Madara's body (Yang) re-creating Kaguya (Yin/Yang).

 

[Joon]

But I think its because she cant stabilize her form yet as Juubi. Madara happen to carried Juubi after Obito and he is the perfect vessel for Kaguya compared to Obito.

Madara is complete sage with proper 6 path attire, two rinnegan, and third eyes on one body and also having half Kurama wheres Obito is different.

The proof that Kaguya can change her juubi form at will is here

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But Kaguya need some amount of chakra to stabilize her Beast form. Same also can be applied to this Juubi

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That juubi is Kaguya beast form and as we know Kaguya is part of that. And logically if Kaguya can change her form at that stage, she not needed human vessel to revive back but only BZ.

But why she cant evolve back to human form?

Its because in that stage she don't have necessary chakra to revive, that's why she need perfect human vessel.

Kaguya can turned into human form at will but he need large amount of chakra to do that

All you saying is speculation bro.

Scan 1. Kaguya reacted to Naruto's Bijuu RasenShuriken which contains the Bijuu chakra.

Scan 2. Only tells of her Kekkei Moru. The Bijuu chakra completely absorb shows that the Jutsu is complete.

Scan 3. Nothing in the Manga imply such.

The Juubi/Shinju and Kaguya are the same being. When Madara absorb the Shinju/Juubi, he became part of that being, although, retaining his consciousness and not that of Kaguya's. Black Zetsu "erased" Madara's consciousness and replace it with Kaguya's (being her will).

The chakra being gathered from Infinite Tsukuyomi was already connected to Madara. When Kaguya took over she continued the absorption and gain chakra above his.

 

[Ansatsuken]

The Chibaku Tensei seperated Kaguya's spirit. This spirit was transferred to Black Zetsu. (My reasoning for this is given below). Since, Kaguya's spirit was in Black Zetsu; Kabuto would not be able to Summon her spirit for Edo Tensei. It's similar to how the Hokage's spirits were trapped in the Reaper Death Spirit. They were only Edo Tenseid when Orochimaru freed them from the Reaper Death Spirit. So, Kabuto will have to use many dubious means to separate Kaguya's spirit from Black Zetsu, her will.



The Chibaku Tensei seal in the manga separates Yin, The Spirit form Yang, The Body. Chibaku Tensei has only shown to seal Yang, the Body, Never Yin, The Spirit. In Naruto and Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei, The Nine Bijuus and Kaguya were spirits (Yin) and were not sealed away, they separated instead. Only the Gedo Mazou (Yang) was sealed. The same also happened with Hagoromo and Hamura's Sealing. The Yin, Spirit of the Juubi is what made Hagoromo the Juubi's Jinchuriki. This Spirit would then be reforged into the Nine Bijuus.

Kaguya's Spirit, the Rabbit was separated form the Juubi's body the Gedo Mazou during Hagoromo and Hamura's Chibaku Tensei. Kaguya's spirit would then use a medium to form Black Zetsu. The highest probability of the medium is Hamura's Staff, we never knew what happened to it and Black Zetsu behaves and is formed from the same substance as the staffs.

(Here' are some links if you are interested in this viewpoint :

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It's fragemented, he never put it in one post. ).

The God Tree's fruit has immortality as one of it's powers. This power was taken by Kaguya, then inherited by Hagoromo and Hamura and spread to all of Humanity by Hagoromo's Ninshuu. The body is not immortal, because it crumbles away, But the spirit is immortal. So technically, every shinobi has inherited the God Tree's immortality as the Spirit will never die.

Just because you are a Spirit doesn't mean you died. It shows you got rid of material Connections, i.e; The body and attained enlightenment, i.e; Immortality.

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Now back to the main topic, a Major Question rises here if you go by my logic. If the Gedo Mazou is indeed Kaguya's Body why was Madara's body even relevant ?

It's simple. The Gedo Mazou was an Old and shell body devoid of powers. On, the flip side, Madara's body was fresh, young and was very close to Kaguya's power. That's why Black Zetsu stabbed him, Transferred Kaguya's Spirit (Yin) into Madara's body (Yang) re-creating Kaguya (Yin/Yang).

What about my theory/logic, do you agree?