Why Juubito is only affected by Sage Tech (Theory)

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

I have done a little research into this and have come to a little understanding as to why Juubito is affected by Sage Tech and not regular ninjutsu.

first off, let's start with the Juubi.

Everybody here should probably already know that the Juubi is the first tailed beast and is said to have created the first chakra that existed (Natural Chakra) Rikudo (So6p) was the first person to figure out how to use his own chakra and invented ninjutsu.

The reason this is a theory rather than just a few facts is simply this.

I am led to believe that the reason Juubito is affected by Sage Tech is because the natural chakra it uses (The chakra the Juubi created) so the way I see it, this is like being struck with your own sword.

I have a few more points that I can't think of from the top of my head but should the right questions be asked, I should be able to clear this point up a little more.

Also would like other theories/contributions to back up or even debunk this theory

 

[Xāvî1]

Because juubi itself uses nature engery

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

Because juubi itself uses nature engery

Haha sorry, I would have included that in the original post but because the Juubi is said to have created natural energy, I figured that would kinda already been implied

 

[Kαmi]

I like it. Basically the only thing that can really hurt the Juubi Jin is energy from the Juubi itself (natural energy) and SM jutsus make use of the natural energy around the user. Makes sense to me, good theory.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I think it's like this. Chakra is mental and physical energy combined. The rest of ninjutsu is manipulating that chakra. I think Obito's jutsu is a kind of reverse creation of all things that disassembles the yin and yang of chakra. The result erases a jutsu to nothingness.

The reason why sage jutsu can't be destroyed by it is because it's yin, yang, and natural energy combined. It's to complex to disassemble.

 

[nandachikara]

I think you are right nature affects nature after all.

 

[Xicer]

I just thought that it was because Obito doesn't have the Sage's body, so he has that weakness.

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

I like it. Basically the only thing that can really hurt the Juubi Jin is energy from the Juubi itself (natural energy) and SM jutsus make use of the natural energy around the user. Makes sense to me, good theory.

Thanks man This also kinda like a prediction too. At first I thought Madara would be the only one able to defeat Juubito (because of Edo) but when it came about that Juubito could kill Edo, I thought about it and now I think it's gonna be Naruto that will defeat Juubito (Who would have thought?)

 

[AlexXx]

and thats how so6p beat juubi. he is a sage so he did meditation till he felt the energy.

or its like with the elemtents: suiton > katon > fuuton > ...
senjutsu -> onmyoudon (obitos black orbs) > ninjutsu ....

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

I think it's like this. Chakra is mental and physical energy combined. The rest of ninjutsu is manipulating that chakra. I think Obito's jutsu is a kind of reverse creation of all things that disassembles the yin and yang of chakra. The result erases a jutsu to nothingness.

The reason why sage jutsu can't be destroyed by it is because it's yin, yang, and natural energy combined. It's to complex to disassemble.

I like this theory but#i can't think of a way to prove this unless we can find out exactly what those black shield things are.

My initial thoughts on them were that they were essentially tailed beast bombs but the Juubi has enough power to manipulate, shape and mould them however he pleases, however, I am not so sure.

 

[oShux]

Because juubi itself uses nature engery

/Thread I kinda thought this was obvious

 

[Kαmi]

Thanks man This also kinda like a prediction too. At first I thought Madara would be the only one able to defeat Juubito (because of Edo) but when it came about that Juubito could kill Edo, I thought about it and now I think it's gonna be Naruto that will defeat Juubito (Who would have thought?)

Who would have thought the main antagonist would be defeated by the main protagonist? Lol mind blowing huh?
I kinda had faith that Naruto (maybe along with Sasuke) would be the one to take down Obito from the start. Minato gave Naruto the power (Kyuubi) to later defeat the masked man he faced. I figured he would use the Kyuubi's energy but it looks like SM works better.
I figured Naruto would take down his parallel and the main antagonist. Since Minato gave the Kyuubi to Naruto to beat Obito and SM works wonders, this might be the only chance to see SM and BM combined together. That's my prediction anyway

 

[AlexXx]

I think it's like this. Chakra is mental and physical energy combined. The rest of ninjutsu is manipulating that chakra. I think Obito's jutsu is a kind of reverse creation of all things that disassembles the yin and yang of chakra. The result erases a jutsu to nothingness.

The reason why sage jutsu can't be destroyed by it is because it's yin, yang, and natural energy combined. It's to complex to disassemble.

its funny, naruto chakra gives life ( turn zetsus into trees and make yamatos wood thingys move) and obito somehow erase life.

 

[Zee Seh]

u got it ryt bro its just like Fire kills Fire.. btw i already figured this much by maself but was too lazy to make a thread ..

 

[YellowFang]

For me, it's obvious since I saw the manga...

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

Who would have thought the main antagonist would be defeated by the main protagonist? Lol mind blowing huh?
I kinda had faith that Naruto (maybe along with Sasuke) would be the one to take down Obito from the start. Minato gave Naruto the power (Kyuubi) to later defeat the masked man he faced. I figured he would use the Kyuubi's energy but it looks like SM works better.
I figured Naruto would take down his parallel and the main antagonist. Since Minato gave the Kyuubi to Naruto to beat Obito and SM works wonders, this might be the only chance to see SM and BM combined together. That's my prediction anyway

I'm loving all of this, in my opinion, the manga is at it's most tense stage yet. As it has already been stated everywhere else, Juubito has a lot more left to show off but it's not been long since Obito got Juubi so looking forward to see what else the manga has to throw at me.

I also read in another thread about the possibility of Minato giving Naruto the other half of the Kyuubi before he dies, I believe this to be a valid prediction as it may very well be key to the story and we may get a glimpse of KSM (Kurama Sage Mode) which would be awesome to see

 

[ballerjordan]

I agree with you.

Read my theory on it, I believe Rikudou may have been a Toad Sage.

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[Sennin of Logic]

I like this theory but#i can't think of a way to prove this unless we can find out exactly what those black shield things are.

My initial thoughts on them were that they were essentially tailed beast bombs but the Juubi has enough power to manipulate, shape and mould them however he pleases, however, I am not so sure.

Was it just the black orbs, or is it contact with Obito's chakra itself? It didn't look like he erased amaterasu through his orbs. Just saying.

 

[rollin]

The attack obito is using is yin and yang; chakra is physical energies(yang)and spiritual energies(yin)
Obitos yin yang attack can't disperse nature energy because his attack is yin yang

 

[xIGOLD FlAsHIx]

Was it just the black orbs, or is it contact with Obito's chakra itself? It didn't look like he erased amaterasu through his orbs. Just saying.

There is no proof that this is Obito's chakra, the coloration for a start is all off.

I'm taking this from the countless times I've seen Naruto perform a Bijuudama There was always Red (Kyuubi) chakra and Blue (Human) Chakra whenever this was performed that created said Bijuudama.

Also @rollin I don't believe it to be Yin and Yang chakra based attack, I say this because Madara can perform Yin and Yang based techniques and in fact I think I remember reading somewhere that Yin and Yang techniques aren't actually chakra types but chakra elements themselves.

I mean, don't quote me on this but I did read that, however, if you were to provide me some solid proof on this then I would be more than willing to accept it for what it is