Why Jiraiya > Sasuke

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Let me compose a quick counterargument regarding EMS and fatigue:

For those of you saying you aren't able to use EMS for extended periods of time without being fatigued considerably: This is false. Based on what has been shown in the manga so far, EMS does not have the same consequences standard MS has.

I'm going to show a few scans directly from the manga that support this:

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Here we briefly see Sasuke using full Susano'o with no signs of being tired at all; he didn't even break a sweat.

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As shown above, we see Sasuke effortlessly cast a seemingly complete Susano'o once again.

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A few panels later, still no evidence of fatigue.

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And here we see Sasuke using Susano'o yet again in his encounter with Itachi without recovering from his previous usages of the EMS.

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Furthermore, needless to say, we see Madara using EMS/Susano'o seamlessly for almost the entire duration of the battle , , , , , , and still going. No overhead due to EMS use.

As opposed to MS, whereas:

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Itachi after roughly 1 use of Susano'o. Granted that he was sick, but as stated by Zetsu, MS usage was obviously a factor of his displayed fatigue.

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Sasuke stating that his entire body was in pain despite not having full mastery over MS while he doesn't so much as mention Susano'o as of currently.​

So, in conclusion: EMS has not yet shown considerable fatigue like MS has exhibited in the past. It probably has some fatigue to it due to the fact that you're utilizing chakra to keep it active, however the chakra that it exerts is negligible because it isn't significant like MS's.
 
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Let me compose a quick counterargument regarding EMS and fatigue:

For those of you saying you aren't able to use EMS for extended periods of time without being fatigued considerably: This is false. Based on what has been shown in the manga so far, EMS does not have the same consequences standard MS has.

I'm going to show a few scans directly from the manga that support this:

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Here we briefly see Sasuke using full Susano'o with no signs of being tired at all; he didn't even break a sweat.

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As shown above, we see Sasuke effortlessly cast a seemingly complete Susano'o once again.

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A few panels later, still no evidence of fatigue.

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And here we see Sasuke using Susano'o yet again in his encounter with Itachi without recovering from his previous usages of the EMS.

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Furthermore, needless to say, we see Madara using EMS/Susano'o seamlessly for almost the entire duration of the battle , , , , , , and still going. No overhead due to EMS use.

As opposed to MS, whereas:

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Itachi after roughly 1 use of Susano'o. Granted that he was sick, but as stated by Zetsu, MS usage was obviously a factor of his displayed fatigue.

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Sasuke stating that his entire body was in pain despite not having full mastery over MS while he doesn't so much as mention Susano'o as of currently.​

So, in conclusion: EMS has not yet shown considerable fatigue like MS has exhibited in the past. It probably has some fatigue to it due to the fact that you're utilizing chakra to keep it active, however the chakra that it exerts is negligible because it isn't significant like MS's.
He still can't use EMS for 1 hour straight.
 

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I don't see any reason this is worth discussing. There is only one answer: Jiraiya would totally OOOWN Sasuke any ****ing day. The only reason he lost to Nagato is because he didn't have enough intel on him, and he actually sacrificed himself in order to gain intel so that others could stand a chance in a fight against him later. And btw, Naruto = Sasuke is BULLSHIT, the way Naruto is now Sasuke doesen't stand a chance.
 

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I don't see any reason this is worth discussing. There is only one answer: Jiraiya would totally OOOWN Sasuke any ****ing day. The only reason he lost to Nagato is because he didn't have enough intel on him, and he actually sacrificed himself in order to gain intel so that others could stand a chance in a fight against him later. And btw, Naruto = Sasuke is BULLSHIT, the way Naruto is now Sasuke doesen't stand a chance.
Your a fanboy so don't even put your thought on this thread and please leave.
 

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I don't see any reason this is worth discussing. There is only one answer: Jiraiya would totally OOOWN Sasuke any ****ing day. The only reason he lost to Nagato is because he didn't have enough intel on him, and he actually sacrificed himself in order to gain intel so that others could stand a chance in a fight against him later. And btw, Naruto = Sasuke is BULLSHIT, the way Naruto is now Sasuke doesen't stand a chance.
and to say that (the bolded part) is equally bs because we havent seen alot of sasukes new EMS powers
 

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It's funny that this thread is still going. It's common sense Sasuke>Jiraiya, and this is coming from a Jiraiya fan. He's my favorite character, but I don't let that blind me from actually using logic.

It seems some fanboys of Jiraiya and haters of Sasuke like to spit illogical nonsense out with no evidence to back up their statements.

Let's give an example:

Jiraiya wins because he took down 3 paths of pain. Seriously WTF? Konohamaru took down a path of Pain so I guess he's superior to Sasuke right?

Lol fanboys and haters these days just make me want to face palm :sy:
 

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Your a fanboy so don't even put your thought on this thread and please leave.
You are basing that on my avatar/signature, which makes you look stupid since you yourself are defending Sasuke with a Sasuke avatar. Yet I am not naming you a fanboy since I don't wanna lower myself to your level.

My point still stands.

and to say that (the bolded part) is equally bs because we havent seen alot of sasukes new EMS powers
And still we all know that Naruto will prevail in the end.
 
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coming from the guy with sasuke in his ava and sig so your a fanboy so you need to get of the tread
Number 1, its called a thread not a tread you sad pathetic child.
Number 2. Your calling me a fanboy lmao look at yoour name and your awful avatar, let me guess you worship kakashi?
Number 3. Dont tell me to get of a 'tread' as you call it, when you should 'get of' a 'tread' which make no sense at all.
Number 4. you fat troll.
 
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