Why Jinchuuriki Obito was better than Jinchuuriki Madara .

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by feats, yes.
by hype no.

Reason: Obito faced weaker opponents while Madara is facing much stronger opponents.
 

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Madara has more power yes but he isn't able to controll it , which makes him look laughable .
Have you noticed that Obito stayed with the ability to create and control the black stuff from the hands? Maybe that's why Madara can't control the black stuff so well

But either way now that he got his new power up he'll be stronger
 

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Not to mention his Gudodamas actually explode unlike Madara's
 

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Lel tldr only a bafoon will believe this bull sh!t . Madz>>>>obito any day obito fapboys damage control fail even zetsu called obito a pathetic failure obito is done a roach that needs to be squashed lel

^ this. These obito fanboys and their damage control

Madara didnt unleash all that bullshit obito did because
1) it was unnecessary. He already solod nardo and sauce. Something that obito coulfnt do woth all that bull
2) minato stole his black balls when he finally found a need for them. Against guy.
 

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it's a manga fact that juubi madara is stronger than juubito, so what's there to discuss?
 

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Klad* I see where you're coming from. However ever since kishi gave him the power of the juubi jin he only showed 2 maybe 3 feats and those are tanking and healing. Kishi did not show us Maddy power because he wanted to show us during the Sasuke & Naruto vs Maddy fight. He held maddy back from both rinnegan eyes and like I said showed no attacking feats. Obito got beat by EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto High Dif. Maddy Solo'd EVERYONE LOW/NEG DIF without being the juubi jin.

Obito got beat by kakashi in kamui verse. Obito sucks at genjutsu and taijutsu his only move that is effective in battle is kamui. Anyways I didn't come here to bash obito he alreadys sucks in my opinion even as the juubi host he's just terrible in general. However Kishi has not shown us any attacking feats because he wanted maddy to show them against Sasuke and Naruto.

Maddy>>>>>O*****o any day
 

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I agree, Madara is nothing but power, Obito was so much more than that. can't wait to see him get creamed, character wise Obito>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maddy, there's not even any competition amongst them in that regard.
 

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Lol , you're the one who got your jimmies rustled by negging me "Hagoromo>Obito"


Just wtf ? You got mad or something ? I didnt even mention hagoromo .

Beacause You once implied Obito > Hagoromo after Obito became Ten tails host and exactly remember it. It was not farfetched that you wanking/hyping Obito by pushing him above Madara will soon try to compare him to Hagoromo.

I know that is the best to prove someone wrong before he/she goes too far.

Now, let me do calm analyze:

Juubito's opponents: BSM Naruto, EMS Sasuke, Minato, Tobirama (I mean main opponents, rest were insignificant)
Juubidara's opponents: former Jinchurki Obito, Minato, 8th Gate Gai , Kakashi and Naruto with Sasuke now.

New Naruto > BSM Naruto
New Sasuke > EMS Sasuke
Minato = Minato
8th gate Gai > Tobirama

now, you get yet Kakashi and weakened Obito as Yin Kurama host.

Well good luck TTH Obito in place of Madara. It should disproves your thread unless you think Obito would do better against Madara's opponents.
 

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Madara might be stronger, but he sucks in comparison to Obito as a villain
 

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Beacause You once implied Obito > Hagoromo after Obito became Ten tails host and exactly remember it. It was not farfetched that you wanking/hyping Obito by pushing him above Madara will soon try to compare him to Hagoromo.

I know that is the best to prove someone wrong before he/she goes too far.

Now, let me do calm analyze:

Juubito's opponents: BSM Naruto, EMS Sasuke, Minato, Tobirama (I mean main opponents, rest were insignificant)
Juubidara's opponents: former Jinchurki Obito, Minato, 8th Gate Gai , Kakashi and Naruto with Sasuke now.

New Naruto > BSM Naruto
New Sasuke > EMS Sasuke
Minato = Minato
8th gate Gai > Tobirama

now, you get yet Kakashi and weakened Obito as Yin Kurama host.

Well good luck TTH Obito in place of Madara. It should disproves your thread unless you think Obito would do better against Madara's opponents.


Send me proof where i said Obito > hagoromo

Also i dont want to destroy my brain cells arguing with you bruh .
 
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Madara’s will pales in comparsion with Obito’s .
Think about it , Obito was at a disadvantage , he had less Bijuu Chakra , and he was missing the most important one , the Kyuubi , but his strong will didn’t let Juubi to take over him , he tamed it and gained control . This alone explains the desire of Obito becoming a Jinchuuriki . In Madara’s case , he had everything prepared , he had all the Bijuu , and he still is not a decent jinchuuriki . Isn’t this ironic ? This explains Obito in character alone is way better than Madara , the latter just focuses on power so much that he for a moment forgets what he’s doing . His arrogance is what makes him weaker than Obito .

He tamed the Juubi and gained control, after a phase of him being an out of control beast. Madara subjugated the Juubi the moment he became the Jin. So how exactly is Madara's will weaker?

Obito is way smarter .
Yes , he is way too smarter . Obito knows what he’s doing , and is the best trashtalker in NarutoVerse . He made Naruto cry , twice . [X , and the other when he killed Neji . This alone explains how catchy or tricky he is , he doesn’t rely on power all the time . He also tried several times to shatter the will of Naruto by making him give up . [X] and [X . Has Madara done anything like that ? He didn’t even talk to Naruto about making him give up , or making him cry . He just relies on power and arrogance , which is his worst part and will be his cause of death . By relying too much in power , you become arrogant (he is a perfect arrogant right now) . He thought he was powerful enough to deal with anyone , yet he got owned by Guy , yet he didn’t kill Obito (This will result to his death ; without Obito , Naruto would be dead) . With this being said , if the jinchuuriki right now was Obito , he would’ve end the current battle in matter of minutes .

Lol, no. Your premise is nothing but wrong and the argument to support it is terrible.

Please explain to me how trying to make Naruto give up with his words or making him cry means that Obito is smarter than Madara? Results are all that matters, and we saw Obito's results when he started talking to Naruto, trying to make him give up and shit. He got cut down by his opponent.

On the other hand, Madara skipped all that nonsense and instead decided to take them out by force...his results?

-Naruto lost Kurama.

Madara's method yielded the best results. Are you telling me that relying on power alone to win a fight of all things is a bad character trait? Come on now, that makes no sense.

Madara got owned by Gai? lol, no. Gai may have given him a good beating, but the one who lost in the end was the one who started turning to ash while Madara (Who has regeneration) only lost part of his right side.

Obito would end the current battle in a matter of minutes? I really hope you aren't talking about Current Naruto and Current Sasuke vs Madara. If you are referring to Gai vs Madara, then Obito would have gotten smacked around even worse than Madara did.

-Slower than Madara.
-Not as durable as Madara.
-Overall weaker than Madara.

So tell me, how would he end that battle with little difficulty when a stronger version of himself couldn't do so? Madara's opponents are stronger than Obito's opponents, and Obito's opponents were taken out quickly by SM Madara, while Obito let things get out of control, leading to his defeat.


Obito’s defense was a lot better . X and X . Tanking 4 Juubi Bijuu damas , that Obito

Bijuu Dama=Not Senjutsu. So it gets negated. Obito didn't tank 4 Juubi Dama.


The only reason Obito lost is because Kishimoto decided not to make him a Final Villain , and the lastet chapter foreshadowed that Kaguya might be the FV . The whole Madara’s mini arc is just milking the series . The plot got repetitive , a new Jinchuuriki again , sealing the Bijuus again , etc . Even the series was a lot better when Obito was a jinchuuriki , this alone shows Obito is a greater , beside those I listed .
Obito lost cause he was too weak to beat his opponents.

-The plot did not become repetitive, don't know why you have "etc" there when there is nothing else that was repeated, and even the sealing of the Bijuu was completely different than how it was to begin with.

The series was not better when Obito was Jin, though that's just my opinion, the above is a fact though.

Oh and please don’t say Obito was lucky because he didn’t face 8th Gate Guy . He already was owning a four man team . Two FTG users , a perfect Jinchuuriki and an EMS user . I’m pretty sure Madara would lose to these four .

Madara already picked those guys off before he became the Jin..though it was one at a team, not to mention Obito wasn't owning shit.

-They hit him multiple times, but the first time they landed a hit didn't mean anything as Senjutsu didn't work.

-They evaded/countered all Obito's techniques.

-Naruto and Sasuke finished him off in the end.

If you replaced Madara with Obito, Obito would be dead.

-Gai would have probably killed him via Night Gai since the more durable Madara was almost killed. Madara took a Senpo: Lava Rasenshuriken while Obito got a hole in his back from Rasengan.

-That Lava RS would have killed him (Since a Rasengan put a hole in his back)






Thanks for reading and don’t bash !

Lol, people are obviously going to bash the shit out of Obito when you bashed Madara this whole thread.
 
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This is offtopic, but I couldn't find a single thread on this in the first page and there is no way in Hell I am going to the second. Not worth it.

Did anyone else see the Juubi request to be absorbed?!

OT: Pretty sure Madara has access to everything Obito had, but still retains his own capabilities. Whereas Obito lost his strongest jutsu...
 

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I agree, Obito seemed more intimidating as the Juubi Jin and potential final villain, and is the more interesting character overall.

He had a clear motivation for seeking the Mugen Tsukuyomi and was actually near its completion. Madara on the other hand constantly seems to forget about his plan, and now that he absorbed the tree I really don't kow how he wants to complete it.
 
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