[Theory] Why Jinchuuriki Obito Resembles Rikudou Sennin

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If his sons were creations of the sage just like the bijuus were, why are they not immortal like the bijuus? If they were creations, then there are no true natural humans in the manga currently. They should be immortal creations, able to manifest after death.

Not necessarily since they were fashioned to become humans to assume the roles as Rikūdo's sons. To make them immortal would have been counterintuitive because instead of them being his successors they would be worshiped as gods, Rikūdo didn't want that. The Bijūs were not meant to assume that role, they are Chakra entities, hence they reform when destroyed.
 
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good thread sir!

I'm waiting for the moment when Kishi will reveal more about Rikudo's life...I'll won't be surprised if an asspull will make SO6P belong to any other clan but Uzumaki xd
 
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Obito and Naruto are the reincarnations of the SO6P...btw good theory + rep
 
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I honestly doubt the similarities are because of the seals and techniques used. More likely, it's because of the Sage's lingering influence within the Tailed Beasts themselves. His power created and shaped them, so it's entirely possible that his chakra is still present within them in some form.

To elaborate, we know that the Tailed Beast's will influences the shape and nature of the chakra shroud that is used by their Jinchuuriki. It could be that when the Tailed Beast's will is separated from it's chakra, the lingering traces of the Sage's power influences the form the cloak takes.

But what about Killer B? He's a perfect Jinchūriki of Hachibi and yet he doesn't manifest Rikūdo's appearance when using Hachibi's Chakra, why is that? It's because his seal is different, it's an Iron Armor Seal, not Uzumaki Seal
 

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Well, done Sir Derp Obito the Uzumaki seals are a requiring item in the Manga along with the special quality of the Uzumaki chakra. People have copy and sometime modify the seals to adopt them to their needs But the more complex seals may not only need full understanding to use but maybe also the Uzumaki chakra,Madara and Obito get arrow n this by their combine Senju and Uchiha DNA that gives them a pseudo Uzumaki DNA.
 

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I agree and excellent thread :)

Three possibilites why All Naruto, Minato and Obito resemble The Sage of six paths

1) Uzumaki Sealing techniques or simply same as Sage's used cause Naruto, Obito and Minato to looks like Sage of six paths
2) Sage of six paths devided his remaining chakra and divided placing in each tailed beast, or simply while creating them some of Sage chakra infused with Tailed beasts. Whatever one is right, the point is Sage chakra may be resident in Tailed beasts cause their Jinchurki to resembles Sage of six paths... But here is plot hole: "Why Killer Bee as Perfect Jinchurki of Gyuuki doesn't resemble Sage of six paths..." I have only answer for it, maybe Kurama has the most part of Sage's chakra sealed in it in compare to rest of tailed beasts.

In short, Kurama chakra alone is enough to manifest Sage's appearance on Naruto, and eight tails has not enought to manifest Sage's appearance... However Obito has full Seven tailed beasts so that why he resmbles Sage of six paths to such degree..., besides he has still Nine tails chakra from Kinaku and Ginkaku...

3) Combination of both 1) and 2) is required for shinobi to begin resemble Sage of six paths....

It requires Uzumaki sealing techniques(Specific ones) + Sage's chakra sealed in tailed beasts

Personally I believe in THIRD OPTION TO BE CORRECT,

what do you think guys, Sir Derp Obito ?

Could it work ? It seems that Just using same sealing arts could be not enough as all Uzumaki could looks like Sage of six paths, Same with being just Jinchurki as Killer Bee proves that he doesn't resemble Sage of six paths.

But All Minato, Obito and Naruto used Sage of six paths's sealing techniques + has Sage's chakra sealed in Tailed beast as Jinchurki they are, with Minato just having chakra of Kurama... as exception

Naruto = Has Tailed beast(piece of Sage chakra) + used Sage's sealing technique
Minato= has Tailed beast chakra(piece of Sage chakra) + used Sage's sealing technique
Obito= Has tailed beast(piece of Sage chakra) + Used Sage's sealing technique


CONCLUSION:

Formula is
Sage's appearance= Sage' s sealing techniques + Sage's chakra present in Tailed beasts
 
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i see it more as a "ultimate chakra mode" that could be achieved by anyone with enough chakra emitting from him.. say raikage's etc.. their chakra cloak takes the same shape a 1 tail version naruto had (With a chakra nature woven into it but nonetheless they have the same horn/ear like things sticking out ontop) here is my thread about it:

the markings on the belly are undoubtedly the sealing jutsu's though :)
 
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I'd love to here your genetic explanation as to how the power of the sons is so divided with such accuracy.

It doesn't need an explanation. This isn't the real world. Kishi doesn't put that much thought into defining the intricate rule of universe. This has been shown time after time. Genetics in the Narutoverse don't exist the way they do in the real world.

Story-wise it makes no sense for the sons to have been created and it NOT be stated as such, when he could have just as easily have had actual children.

I don't NEED explanation, when the info is on the manga pages. The reason Derp needs an explanation is because he trying to create alternate interpretation of the things said in the manga to support his various theories.
 

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Not necessarily since they were fashioned to become humans to assume the roles as Rikūdo's sons. To make them immortal would have been counterintuitive because instead of them being his successors they would be worshiped as gods, Rikūdo didn't want that. The Bijūs were not meant to assume that role, they are Chakra entities, hence they reform when destroyed.
Heh, I see.. Well you've thoroughly explained it to me, much appreciative.
 

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But what about Killer B? He's a perfect Jinchūriki of Hachibi and yet he doesn't manifest Rikūdo's appearance when using Hachibi's Chakra, why is that? It's because his seal is different, it's an Iron Armor Seal, not Uzumaki Seal

There are several possibilities. Perhaps the effect I've theorized is only possible with Jinchuuriki that share the Sage's bloodline to some degree. Or the Sage's influence only manifests in the Nine-Tails, and later the Ten-Tails, because only they possess enough of his power for it do so. Though, the most likely is the power of the seals and the degree of separation of it's mind and chakra. Bee's Iron Armor Seal is far weaker than Naruto's Hakke Fuin or Minato's Shiki Fuujin. So the degree of separation between the Hachibi's mind and it's chakra would be less absolute than the divide between the Nine-Tails and Naruto/Minato.

Either way, it makes more sense than it being the design of the seals themselves. I see no reason for the Sage to 'code' his appearance into his Seal Arrays, even if the Hakke Fuin and the Shiki Fuujin were created by him. (Which is doubtful.)
 

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Nice theory! I actually gasped out loud when I saw his form in the latest chapter. lol You cleared up many of my questions.
 
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