Why is White pride considered racist?

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[Avani 🥉]

Trust me, he isn't. It's his own brand of childish sarcasm.

Yeah-- I wasn't paying attention to the user name. 'Can't keep track of them all, all the time. That said even OP is just a bait. Same cannot be said for some other posting on this topic.

 

[BlacLord™]

Then black pride, pride in sexuality, pride in your appearance in general I guess should apply as well?

I'm not "proud" of being white or bisexual, they are just characteristics of my physiology. In this era, such things as pride festivals are counterintuitive, because they make said groups "stick out" and so don't help the integration process. The final crucial step for LGBT et al. is to be treated no differently from their counterparts.

E.g. kids not needing to "come out" etc.

 

[Edogawa]

Pride is reserved for an achievement. You can't be proud of, for example, for being white because this is genetic influence. This is the problem with your question. Now, why is it considered racist? You will have to return back to school and take history lessons. White pride lead to oppression and genocides of ethnic groups & religious groups, as well as racial separation. It's not socially viewed as racist when said for black pride, because black people don't have history of oppressing and cleansing minorities like white pride.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Outside I am brown inside I am a white girl.

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Seriously, I agree with Edogawa.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Pride is reserved for an achievement. You can't be proud of, for example, for being white because this is genetic influence. This is the problem with your question. Now, why is it considered racist? You will have to return back to school and take history lessons. White pride lead to oppression and genocides of ethnic groups & religious groups, as well as racial separation. It's not socially viewed as racist when said for black pride, because black people don't have history of oppressing and cleansing minorities like white pride.

Silly! racism needs to oppression and genocides, European pride is not racism also black ppl have committed those same crimes sadly

 

[Narushima]

So if you are going to take British empire as "white pride" then I suppose you are also going to take responsibility of 10 million deaths during White Man made famine( literally) in Bengal in 1770 and 4 million deaths by hunger again in 1943 - again because the British government didn't care for dark skinned Bengalies.

"In the first years of the rule of the British East India Company, the total land tax income was doubled and most of this revenue flowed out of the country. As the famine approached its height in April 1770, the Company announced that the land tax for the following year was to be increased by a further 10%.

The destruction of food crops in Bengal to make way for opium poppy cultivation for export reduced food availability and contributed to the famine. The company is also criticized for ordering the farmers to plant indigo instead of rice, as well as forbidding the "hoarding" of rice. This prevented traders and dealers from laying in reserves that in other times would have tided the population over lean periods.

By the time of the famine, monopolies in grain trading had been established by the company and its agents. The company had no plan for dealing with the grain shortage, and actions were only taken insofar as they affected the mercantile and trading classes. Land revenue decreased by 14% during the affected year, but recovered rapidly. According to McLane, the first governor-general of British India, Warren Hastings, acknowledged "violent" tax collecting after 1771: revenues earned by the Company were higher in 1771 than in 1768. Globally, the profit of the company increased from fifteen million rupees in 1765 to thirty million in 1777. Nevertheless, the company continued to suffer financially, and influenced Parliament to pass the Tea Act in 1773 to increase import duties on tea shipped to the American colonies, which contributed to the American War of Independence in April 1775.

The Great Bengal famine of 1770 was one of a series of famines in India under British colonial rule that would continue killing tens of millions of Indians into the late 19th century and beyond."
-Wiki

Don't forget that much of industrial revolution in the West was being financed on the cost of such policies and on the pile of bodies. Not only Britain but other "British colonies like USA also benefited due to British policies in India.


I'm just warming up here. ^^ Be proud sure- but don't expect others to be impressed for a pride like that.

Our imperial legacy was brutal there is no denying that but significantly more so than most other historical empires (after the economic and technological disparity is accounted for)? Not really, to be honest.

The great Khan is estimated to have slaughtered about 10% of the population of the entire world at the time but the Mongol people still take pride in that empire and have erected a statue of its founder in Ulaanbaatar. By contrast, I was told back in history class here in England that Mahatma Gandhi was a great man.

And the British left from the same door they came in - our influence on your way of life was ephemeral, whereas the same cannot be said for those other conquerors of your land, the Muslims.

As for something the British can take pride in, I think there is much to be said, to name one, there are very few other peoples who rival us for per capita contributions to science. In fact I think the Germans and the Ashkenazi Jews are the only serious competitors we have for the title of the most productive people in history.

 

[Itachi Minato]

What the **** is this shit? Being proud for being white? Lol why? You haven't done anything, achieved anything but your proud of being white? Being proud to be a race is just dumb, pride should only be for something that you earnt. And that guy earlier who said the greatest footballer was black, greatest cricketer was black Lmao talking like it's universally accepted. And race had nothing to do with their achievements.

 

[Beatrix]

Eh.

I don't know how I could be proud of such being "white" when that would include people like Donald Trump and the English.

I am - however - proud of being Scottish. Why? Because my country is f*cking beautiful - our history is epic - and many countrymen have made great discoveries, pioneers in invention - science - medicine etc.

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... national pride is easier to understand. It's culture, a main aspect of our social identity.

Being white, to me is on par with me having red hair and grey eyes. Actually, it ranks lower than being a redhead - that's actually more significant. We're an endangered species after all.

 

[Avani 🥉]

Our imperial legacy was brutal there is no denying that but significantly more so than most other historical empires (after the economic and technological disparity is accounted for)? Not really, to be honest.

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I already made myself clear ^.

The great Khan is estimated to have slaughtered about 10% of the population of the entire world at the time but the Mongol people still take pride in that empire and have erected a statue of its founder in Ulaanbaatar. By contrast,

The great Khan did those things when he was fighting or at war with those people. Just like you Mongols too have more reasons to be proud of him - his policies as a ruler brought some good reforms to his own people.

By contrast, the famine of 18nth century was not result of a war or natural calamity but economic policy of the British powers and callous attitude towards the natives whose lives meant little to them.

Not that it matter at the moment as I mentioned it in reply to another post.

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I was told back in history class here in England that Mahatma Gandhi was a great man.

I think British made him greater than he was, by turning him in to a singular face for Indian freedom fighters- they used him to push back hardliners who were demanding more civil rights and then full freedom much earlier before him, while Gandhi was quite a loyalist to British Raj for a long time. Some people get classed as great because of their circumstances. But that's another argument and I'm just not one of the Gandhi fans.

And the British left from the same door they came in - our influence on your way of life was ephemeral, whereas the same cannot be said for those other conquerors of your land, the Muslims.

Yea - most of us cannot make up their mind about Britain- they ruined us economically but it's not like the drain started with them and they came as a third party in already ongoing two way struggle. Hard to say how it would have gone otherwise from cultural POV. We probably needed a change in status quo to be able to move forward again, maybe not - still we paid too high price and installments are yet ongoing.

How about you guys stop supporting those fanatical sect of Wahabies that you started supporting back in 18nth century seeing rest of Indians as a threat to your rule? Most of the news we see from UK still is so damn biased and the movie Slumdog Millionaire again only tried to defecate us more. The changes made in the original story mislead, ignoring ground realities and reinforcing certain stereotypes/biased perceptions. Just a reminder of colonial take of the past, just as subtle and polished fooling as ever and a lot of Indians just swallowed it again the same way they ignored the subtexts when making treaties with East India company.

As for something the British can take pride in, I think there is much to be said, to name one, there are very few other peoples who rival us for per capita contributions to science. In fact I think the Germans and the Ashkenazi Jews are the only serious competitors we have for the title of the most productive people in history.

I think you are referring to Europe only.

 

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[LustyLover]

What the **** is this shit? Being proud for being white? Lol why? You haven't done anything, achieved anything but your proud of being white? Being proud to be a race is just dumb, pride should only be for something that you earnt. And that guy earlier who said the greatest footballer was black, greatest cricketer was black Lmao talking like it's universally accepted. And race had nothing to do with their achievements.

People who are attractive haven't done shit as well. Does that mean people shouldn't take pride in their appearance?

Eh.

I don't know how I could be proud of such being "white" when that would include people like Donald Trump and the English.

I am - however - proud of being Scottish. Why? Because my country is f*cking beautiful - our history is epic - and many countrymen have made great discoveries, pioneers in invention - science - medicine etc.

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... national pride is easier to understand. It's culture, a main aspect of our social identity.

Being white, to me is on par with me having red hair and grey eyes. Actually, it ranks lower than being a redhead - that's actually more significant. We're an endangered species after all.

@Bold, I was mainly trying to talk about the cultural/historic aspects behind it like you and it got misinterpreted, although people can be proud of their skin color too if they want. Nothing wrong with that.

My lover is Scottish and I've been there; it's a really beautiful place <3

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[Itachi Minato]

People who are attractive haven't done shit as well. Does that mean people shouldn't take pride in their appearance? Your just lucky you look good



@Bold, I was mainly trying to talk about the cultural/historic aspects behind it like you and it got misinterpreted, although people can be proud of their skin color too if they want. Nothing wrong with that.

My lover is Scottish and I've been there; it's a really beautiful place <3



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Yes, you shouldn't be proud of your appearance. Who the hell walks around saying ' I'm proud I look good'?

 

[Don Drama]

So nobody comment on Chess being a racist game.... I am so disappointed on all of you.

 

[LustyLover]

Yes, you shouldn't be proud of your appearance. Who the hell walks around saying ' I'm proud I look good'?

People with decent self-esteem..

 

[BanGinji]

Thing is, what exactly is it that you're proud of? Most races when they say they are proud its referencing their culture and roots. food, music, traditions etc. White americans have a lot of shameful roots not a very easily recognizable/consistent culture (unless you're referencing pre-american ancestry). So as long as you aren't showing pride in slavery, and native american genocide, Jim crow etc.. then it shouldn't be viewed racist

 

[JStar King]

I'm white and I am so proud of my skin colour. My white skin enables me to handle colder climates better and entitles me to more money at work because everyone knows that white money is better than black money due to being more legitimate. It also allows me to be treated better with the cops because everyone knows that white represents happiness and life and black represents death, which is why a lot of people where white at weddings and black attire at funerals. Lastly, and most importantly, my white skin is more prone to getting skin cancer which incentivises me to stay away from the 3rd world shitholes which make up the bulk of the tropical/warmer areas of the world and stay in the richer Scandinavian countries. So yes, my white skin is something I'm very proud of. White pride FTW!

So you're saying black is the opposite? Plus, do you actually believe in that bullshit? Racist or nah?

 

[shelke]

People with decent self-esteem..

Or none of it, as they have to declare their "pride" consistently.

 

[LustyLover]

Or none of it, as they have to declare their "pride" consistently.

You don't need to declare it consistently, or at all, to be proud of something :lol

 

[shelke]

You don't need to declare it consistently, or at all, to be proud of something :lol

You'll be surprised how display of culture nullifies this notion.