Why is the shinju not the gedo mazo?

[obito uchiha the wraith]

It is the husk of the husk of the juubi which is literally the definition of the gedo mazo... That being said if the shinju is the husk now why is the gedo mazo in obito?

 

[HiddenSound]

I was under the impression that the Shinju is the original form of the Jūbi.

 

[3MESSIAH]

it`s too late for me to give you an answer to such a complicated question. good night :gn:

 

[Silent Phantom]

it`s too late for me to give you an answer to such a complicated question. good night :gn:

You little tease.

 

[Sir Blades]

What is a shinju.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

My guess is that after Obito became the Juubi Jinchuuriki, when he let out the Juubi to make the God Tree, he only allowed part of it to be freed from his body, yet still be under his control, while the remaing half, had the Bijuu chakra extracted leaving the empty shell once again, the Gedo Mazou, only now it's half as powerful.

Pretty much, it might have split in half and one formed into the God Tree while the other half remained the Juubi's previous form.

Who knows.

 

[slaton02]

Kishimoto f***ed up is my guess.

 

[a banned cartoon]

It's manga, no sense needs to be made. Logic does not apply.

 

[3MESSIAH]

You little tease.

:ilu:


gedo mazou is the shell of the juubi,shinju is the final form of the juubi :gn:

 

[brownbear]

I thought the sage used the rinnegan to seal its body in the moon?

 

[Flawž]

The Shinju tree is the true form of the Juubi. Once the juubi reached full power It was able to unleash it's full form (shinju) without the need of the bijuu's as the flower already bloomed.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

I thought the sage used the rinnegan to seal its body in the moon?

You haven't been reading the manga have you?

Madara already said he broke the Sage's seal and summoned the Gedo Mazou.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

The Shinju tree is the true form of the Juubi. Once the juubi reached full power It was able to unleash it's full form (shinju) without the need of the bijuu's as the flower already bloomed.

The Juubi now never had all of the 8 and 9 tails chakra, so it was never at full power.

 

[Flawž]

The Juubi now never had all of the 8 and 9 tails chakra, so it was never at full power.

It was stated that the juubi could still reach it's true potential even without the complete chakra of the 8 and 9 tails.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

It was stated that the juubi could still reach it's true potential even without the complete chakra of the 8 and 9 tails.

Not necessarily it's "full potential", it was just able to reawaken is all.

It was never at full power.

 

[Flawž]

Not necessarily it's "full potential", it was just able to reawaken is all.

It was never at full power.

Since the juubi was able to spit out the Shinu Tree, It's final phase and still be able to cast Mugen Tsukuyomi, It's safe to say it was able to reach it's full potential.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Since the juubi was able to spit out the Shinu Tree, It's final phase and still be able to cast Mugen Tsukuyomi, It's safe to say it was able to reach it's full potential.

So you're saying that if the Juubi were to absorb the Hachibi and Kyuubi completely it wouldn't be any stronger than it was when it only had a tiny fraction of their chakra?

 

[Flawž]

So you're saying that if the Juubi were to absorb the Hachibi and Kyuubi completely it wouldn't be any stronger than it was when it only had a tiny fraction of their chakra?

The juubi through it's phases was able to recuperate the lost chakra needed from the 8 and 9 tails over time untill finally, reaching it's final form, It's true potential.

You cannot reach your final form unless you have the necessary requirements to do so.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

The juubi through it's phases was able to recuperate the lost chakra needed from the 8 and 9 tails over time untill finally, reaching it's final form, It's true potential.

You cannot reach your final form unless you have the necessary requirements to do so.

Yes it did in fact reach it's final form, however, the final can still become stronger by getting the complete Hachibi and Kyuubi chakra.

And before you say if it can get stronger than it's not final, I'm referring to it's forms. The God Tree is it's final form, and there's no form past that, but that final form can still be enhanced by the remaing Bijuu chakra, without changing it's form at all.

 

[Flawž]

Yes it did in fact reach it's final form, however, the final can still become stronger by getting the complete Hachibi and Kyuubi chakra.

And before you say if it can get stronger than it's not final, I'm referring to it's forms. The God Tree is it's final form, and there's no form past that, but that final form can still be enhanced by the remaing Bijuu chakra, without changing it's form at all.

You don't get it. How can the shinju tree reach it's final form being incomplete?

Answer is that it became complete after a series of transformations.