Why is the Byakugou Overrated?

[Joshutsu]

Well since you so condescendingly asked, limbs cannot be regrown. Since the seal's only function is to hasten the effects of the natural enzymes in our body that creates cell division. But alas our body wouldn't naturally regrow limbs since those are human extremities. Organs on the other hand can be regrown by the body naturally to a certain extent I.e. part of your liver(and said extent is vastly extended during the use of that technique.) That's likely why or had her legs reattached to her(which can be done irl just at a smaller extent) instead of growing new legs.

Another thing to note is that the seal doesn't remove old cells or poison. Since neither has anything to do wit cell reproduction. So without an antidote it in fact speeds up the rate in which poison travels throughout the body. Anything else?

Yet Tsunade said it, and it's naruto they don't obey all logic, juubi madara regenerated an arm. And you're proving exactly what im talking about that you all think you can outwit the manga with real world knowledge, also what does poison have to do with now? We already know Tsunade solos poison anyways.


Regrowing limbs would exhaust reserves anyways as stated in a thread of my byakugou analysis. My only peeve is the brain thing because based on manga stated things noone would question that just because they feel it shouldn't because of the 'real life logic'

 

[V h o]

We already know Tsunade solos poison anyways.

How exactly does she "solo poison" without an antidote?

 

[Joshutsu]

How exactly does she "solo poison" without an antidote?

'Queen of elixirs' is what they called her, she made a joke out of chiyo as well. That woman has highest skill in poisons and antidotes i'm pretty sure she would have means to combat poison in battle if she were to become poisoned.

Unless of course you want to tell me she can't about that too because you say so.

 

[V h o]

'Queen of elixirs' is what they called her, she made a joke out of chiyo as well. That woman has highest skill in poisons and antidotes i'm pretty sure she would have means to combat poison in battle if she were to become poisoned.

Unless of course you want to tell me she can't about that too because you say so.

lol I love how you respond in a condescending tone always. Another reason I don't try to talk with tsunade fans. But I digress, if your saying she uses an antidote then sure. However if she doesn't have an antidote then she dies.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yet Tsunade said it, and it's naruto they don't obey all logic, juubi madara regenerated an arm. And you're proving exactly what im talking about, also what does poison have to do with now? We already know Tsunade solos poison anyways.


Regrowing limbs would exhaust reserves anyways as stated in a thread of my byakugou analysis. My only peeve is the brain thing because based on manga stated things noone would question that just because they feel it shouldn't because of the 'real life logic'

Yet tsunami said what? That she can grow limbs? Scan please? Cuz if she flat out said it you should have posted it and left
When did Juubi Maddy regrow an arm? What? Last I checked it was only his legs and it was after he reabsorbed the tree.

Why'd I'd bring up poison? Cuz kh (well known tsunami fan) said the seal counters it in this very thread. When in fact it's the opposite.

As for her regrowing limbs no. She can't. I already explained why. It's not part of the body's natural function to do so. Even on the smallest of scales. She's still a mammal. Not a starfish or lizard.

Edit:tsunade= tsunami. Auto correct screwed me.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

lol I love how you respond in a condescending tone always. Another reason I don't try to talk with tsunade fans. But I digress, if your saying she uses an antidote then sure. However if she doesn't have an antidote then she dies.

Facts. I don't doubt her ability to make antidotes. She just isn't doing it in the middle of a battle.

 

[V h o]

Facts. I don't doubt her ability to make antidotes. She just isn't doing it in the middle of a battle.

That is a possibility also. I've seen fans say her regeneration will counteract the poison, just because a new organ is made.

 

[Joshutsu]

lol I love how you respond in a condescending tone always. Another reason I don't try to talk with tsunade fans. But I digress, if your saying she uses an antidote then sure. However if she doesn't have an antidote then she dies.

My point is you are already assuming Tsunade does now possess means of neutralizing various poisons in a battle because you say she doesn't.

Yet tsunami said what? That she can grow limbs? Scan please? Cuz if she flat out said it you should have posted it and left
When did Juubi Maddy regrow an arm? What? Last I checked it was only his legs and it was after he reabsorbed the tree.

Why'd I'd bring up poison? Cuz kh (well known tsunami fan) said the seal counters it in this very thread. When in fact it's the opposite.

As for her regrowing limbs no. She can't. I already explained why. It's not part of the body's natural function to do so. Even on the smallest of scales. She's still a mammal. Not a starfish or lizard.

Edit:tsunade= tsunami. Auto correct screwed me.

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^ check again, what was before he absorbed the tree itself

and let me tell you something, not because another Tsunade fan says something means it is relevant to me. We are not hive minded. So don't bring that to me or opinions of others to me in such a way again, please.


I'd debate poison further but i remember the amount of people who actually use poison in the manga thats still alive. And if i did care to create a vs scenario i would just put in that tsunade has already made antidotes.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That is a possibility also. I've seen fans say her regeneration will counteract the poison, just because a new organ is made.

It doesn't. It explicitly stated that of old cells aren't removed. So the poison (depending on what it is) will remain in the body. In fact it should spread faster in accordance with the accelerated spread of the new cells.

 

[Joshutsu]

It doesn't. It explicitly stated that of old cells aren't removed. So the poison (depending on what it is) will remain in the body. In fact it should spread faster in accordance with the accelerated spread of the new cells.

my only question remaining for you about the poison thing is. How does poison become fatal? It causes parts of the body to fail and that is what kills you doesn't it?

If byakugou is constantly keeping those body parts functioning would she or would she not be fine from the poison until byakugou runs out even though still in the body? In a scenario she has no antidotes ofc.

 

[V h o]

It doesn't. It explicitly stated that of old cells aren't removed. So the poison (depending on what it is) will remain in the body. In fact it should spread faster in accordance with the accelerated spread of the new cells.

Yes I know.

My point is you are already assuming Tsunade does now possess means of neutralizing various poisons in a battle because you say she doesn't.

I assume you mean does not. If tsunade shows feats of neutralizing a poison in battle then I will agree on it, however as yet I believe she hasn't. Only battle were she might have made antidote mid battle was against Hanzo, yet I believe that wasn't shown. You don't need to redirect your hate/anger towards me for disagreeing with your opinion on tsunade. I know people bash her abilities but as yet a lot of her support arguments are hype based imo.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

My point is you are already assuming Tsunade does now possess means of neutralizing various poisons in a battle because you say she doesn't.

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^ check again

and let me tell you something, not because another Tsunade fan says something means it is relevant to me. We are not hive minded. So don't bring that to me or opinions of others to me in such a way again, please.

Limb=/= organ. Limbs are (third time I'm saying this) extremities or appendages.
Don't get your panties in a bunch since my first post was a slight generalization. I said "most tsunade fans" you took it upon yourself to reply thus joining/becoming apart of said generalization and acknowledged by saying

So you understand it more than us to tell us what cannot be generated?

So don't try to act single minded now that your condescension backfired on you.

 

[Joshutsu]

I assume you mean does not. If tsunade shows feats of neutralizing a poison in battle then I will agree on it, however as yet I believe she hasn't. Only battle were she might have made antidote mid battle was against Hanzo, yet I believe that wasn't shown. You don't need to redirect your hate/anger towards me for disagreeing with your opinion on tsunade. I know people bash her abilities but as yet a lot of her support arguments are hype based imo.

I do not mean her creating an antidote on the spot in what you replied to, i'm specifically referring to her carrying around various poison antidotes. You can't make an antidote on the spot without having medical ingredients.

 

[Joshutsu]

Limb=/= organ. Limbs are (third time I'm saying this) extremities or appendages.
Don't get your panties in a bunch since my first post was a slight generalization. I said "most tsunade fans" you took it upon yourself to reply thus joining/becoming apart of said generalization and acknowledged by saying



So don't try to act single minded now that your condescension backfired on you.

Buddy, the scan says LIMBS AND ORGANS.

Also what you tried to backfire on me was at your general post about tsunade fans as it concerns us all so i said us. that does not justify you bringing poisons to me under the assumption i agree with other tsunade fans on whether she can regenerate poisons.

However your opinion on what a character we are all defending can regenerate concerns us all but that does not mean i would disagree with everything you say she cannot regenerate which was my point about you bringing up poisons to be in a manner before knowing my opinion on it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

my only question remaining for you about the poison thing is. How does poison become fatal? It causes parts of the body to fail and that is what kills you doesn't it?

If byakugou is constantly keeping those body parts functioning would she or would she not be fine from the poison until byakugou runs out even though still in the body? In a scenario she has no antidotes ofc.

Not all poisons have to result in death. Ex oro's paralysis poison. In such cases she would be paralyzed instantly since the poison acts on the contractions of muscles. After all a contacted muscle is still a functioning muscle.
Even for poisons that are fatal it would depend on the way said poison reaches that conclusion. Is it like aids? Destroying to reproduce? Or is it a nerve agent? Hallucinogen?

 

[Joshutsu]

Not all poisons have to result in death. Ex oro's paralysis poison. In such cases she would be paralyzed instantly since the poison acts on the contractions of muscles. After all a contacted muscle is still a functioning muscle.
Even for poisons that are fatal it would depend on the way said poison reaches that conclusion. Is it like aids? Destroying to reproduce? Or is it a nerve agent? Hallucinogen?

So you disagree that all poisons take noticable effect on humans by affecting some aspect of the human body? And Tsunade can heal anything abnormal within her body.

So even if she cannot remove the poison do you disagree that she cannot avoid the effects of the poison within her body by byakugou constantly keeping whatever the poison is trying to attack and shutdown in good condition as byakugou does until the jutsu runs out?it's a simple yes or no

 

[V h o]

I do not mean her creating an antidote on the spot in what you replied to, i'm specifically referring to her carrying around various poison antidotes. You can't make an antidote on the spot without having medical ingredients.

Yet again that assumes she has the antidote or knowledge of the poison, which still requires prep in order to decipher what the toxin is made out of. If this was the case, we could say everyone has the antidote since they could get one from a medical ninja.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Buddy, the scan says LIMBS AND ORGANS.

Also what you tried to backfire on me was at your general post about tsunade fans as it concerns us all so i said us. that does not justify you bringing poisons to me under the assumption i agree with other tsunade fans on whether she can regenerate poisons.

However your opinion on what a character we are all defending can regenerate concerns us all but that does not mean i would disagree with everything you say she cannot regenerate which was my point about you bringing up poisons to be in a manner before knowing my opinion on it.

Oh wow look at that. Case closed.

I said most not all. You joined the general so our was safe for me to assume.

 

[Joshutsu]

Yet again that assumes she has the antidote or knowledge of the poison, which still requires prep in order to decipher what the toxin is made out of. If this was the case, we could say everyone has the antidote since they could get one from a medical ninja.

Yet again i ask you, why is it wrong for me to assume she has it and it's right for you to assume she doesn't?

Not necessarily, Tsunade has 50+ years of poison experience in a scenario that she has prepared for the unexpected she can very well have an antidote for a poison as all poisons have a category.

Oh wow look at that. Case closed.

I said most not all. You joined the general so our was safe for me to assume.

indeed case closed.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

So you disagree that all poisons take noticable effect on humans by affecting some aspect of the human body? And Tsunade can heal anything abnormal within her body.

So even if she cannot remove the poison do you disagree that she cannot avoid the effects of the poison within her body by byakugou constantly keeping whatever the poison is trying to attack and shutdown in good condition as byakugou does until the jutsu runs out?it's a simple yes or no

By definition yes. All poisons effect to human body on a molecular scale. I disagree with the notion that cell division counteracts this.