Why is the Byakugou Overrated?

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Yet again i ask you, why is it wrong for me to assume she has it and it's right for you to assume she doesn't?

Not necessarily, Tsunade has 50+ years of poison experience in a scenario that she has prepared for the unexpected she can very well have an antidote for a poison as all poisons have a category.



indeed case closed.

Are you going to tally that victory?
 

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Yet again i ask you, why is it wrong for me to assume she has it and it's right for you to assume she doesn't?

Not necessarily, Tsunade has 50+ years of poison experience in a scenario that she has prepared for the unexpected she can very well have an antidote for a poison as all poisons have a category.

Because your assumption builds a hypothetical that Tsunade has already encountered said poison and has an antidote ready for that specific poison. 50 years of experience doesn't prevent the making of a new poison, or the combination of multiple old poisons into a new one. I'm not doubting tsunade can make a poison but she hasn't been shown to produce an antidote mid battle or carry antidotes with her.
 

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By definition yes. All poisons effect to human body on a molecular scale. I disagree with the notion that cell division counteracts this.
I see, well if that is how you look at it.

Are you going to tally that victory?

I'm not like that, im older than 12

Because your assumption builds a hypothetical that Tsunade has already encountered said poison and has an antidote ready for that specific poison. 50 years of experience doesn't prevent the making of a new poison, or the combination of multiple old poisons into a new one. I'm not doubting tsunade can make a poison but she hasn't been shown to produce an antidote mid battle or carry antidotes with her.

Well it's a good thing no such character exists at the moment now doesn't it? You are going outside the box now but for my sake it isn't to my disadvantage.
 

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I see, well if that is how you look at it.



I'm not like that, i



Well it's a good thing no such character exists at the moment now doesn't it? You are going outside the box now but for my sake it isn't to my disadvantage.

I doubt she had knowledge on sasori's poisons.
 

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I doubt she had knowledge on sasori's poisons.

But Sakura got it and all missions are reported back to hokage in detail. That's how they keep record of missions completed and intel on akatsuki. But theres no point going back and forth with asumptions on both parts. This discussion has been over clearly.
 

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Well it's a good thing no such character exists at the moment now doesn't it? You are going outside the box now but for my sake it isn't to my disadvantage.

How exactly am I going outside of the box? Unless you believe Tsunade witnessed Sasori's poison before and had an antidote ready.

Edit: Using intel, would mean they had knowledge of the poison. However it doesn't mean Tsunade can produce an antidote on the first encounter, which still refers back to me saying prep/intel would make the poison irreverent for anyone.
 
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But Sakura got it and all missions are reported back to hokage in detail. That's how they keep record of missions completed and intel on akatsuki. But theres no point going back and forth with asumptions on both parts. This discussion has been over clearly.

l meant prior to that.
 

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l meant prior to that.

oh of course not but im talking about current tsunade cuz i mean why not, but yh assumptions on both parts will get us no where now so we might as well not
 

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oh of course not but im talking about current tsunade cuz i mean why not, but yh assumptions on both parts will get us no where now so we might as well not

Then wouldn't that fit within volk's hypothetical?
 

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How exactly am I going outside of the box? Unless you believe Tsunade witnessed Sasori's poison before and had an antidote ready.

Edit: Using intel, would mean they had knowledge of the poison. However it doesn't mean Tsunade can produce an antidote on the first encounter, which still refers back to me saying prep/intel would make the poison irreverent for anyone.

because you said 50 yrs of experience doesn't prevent the making of a new poison(which suggests a new character since the poison users are dead) barring kankuro. of every character that existed in this manga that uses poisons current Tsunade has intel on them by fighting them or as i said in my vs scenario i simply state tsunade has antidote based on sakuras intel on sasori's poison.
 

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Why is Btakugou overrated? Its isnt. Its reason is to heal, and in that aspect its superb.
 

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Then wouldn't that fit within volk's hypothetical?

his hypothetical about new poison? Through which character? The top poison users are dead which is why i said it was outside of the box to suggest it cuz now we're talking about a character that probably doesn't exist.

Which is why i said we should stop now cuz we are all now just going under what if and scenario. And honestly do any of you want to keep that up cuz i don't
 

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because you said 50 yrs of experience doesn't prevent the making of a new poison(which suggests a new character since the poison users are dead) barring kankuro. of every character that existed in this manga that uses poisons current Tsunade has intel on them by fighting them or as i said in my vs scenario i simply state tsunade has antidote based on sakuras intel on sasori's poison.

Which still means they had intel, which means everyone can have an antidote for the poison since the antidote has been found. However even if it is current Tsunade that doesn't mean she has an antidote for a specific poison, unless she knows that she will be fighting said person. This is deviating from the main topic that tsunade can't cure poison within battle.

Edit: My hypothetical is referring to no manga knowledge, not some fantasy character.
 

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Which still means they had intel, which means everyone can have an antidote for the poison since the antidote has been found. However even if it is current Tsunade that doesn't mean she has an antidote for a specific poison, unless she knows that she will be fighting said person. This is deviating from the main topic that tsunade can't cure poison within battle.

That was in the condition of a VS thread when i said that, in the current manga Tsunade doesn't have poison as a threat. But in vs thread i can rightfully say she has antidotes for the top poison characters cuz in the manga she has encountered all through some means

I already said all the way up there making antidotes on the spot would require ingredients.
 

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That was in the condition of a VS thread when i said that, in the current manga Tsunade doesn't have poison as a threat. But in vs thread i can rightfully say she has antidotes for the top poison characters cuz in the manga she has encountered all through some means

I already said all the way up there making antidotes on the spot would require ingredients.

You never posted the link to said versus battle and I never saw it if you did. Also the bold is assumption. When has tsunade been shown to carry antidotes for the top tier poison users?
 

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You never posted the link to said versus battle and I never saw it if you did. Also the bold is assumption. When has tsunade been shown to carry antidotes for the top tier poison users?

No, you aren't understanding are you. There is no VS thread.

I said, all these fight scenarios against sasori,chiyo and hanzo are vs section and they are dead, so they can't have new poison feats. And within the vs thread in rules and conditions if i said Tsunade has an antidote it would be valid because she has already encountered their poisons through some means.

Get it now?
 

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No, you aren't understanding are you. There is no VS thread.

I said, all these fight scenarios against sasori,chiyo and hanzo are vs section and they are dead, so they can't have new poison feats. And within the vs thread in rules and conditions if i said Tsunade has an antidote it would be valid because she has already encountered their poisons through some means.

Get it now?

I have already said that if she has knowledge on the poison, the poison is futile for anyone-including Tsunade herself. I don't see how this has derailed into this, when my initial statement was Tsunade can't make an antidote in battle/regeneration does not cure poison.
 

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lol Byakugou adds no strength to the user. Its regeneration.
 

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I have already said that if she has knowledge on the poison, the poison is futile for anyone-including Tsunade herself. I don't see how this has derailed into this, when my initial statement was Tsunade can't make an antidote in battle/regeneration does not cure poison.

But i had already said she cannot and we still wen't onward i assumed we were on the same page
 
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