Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

[Nagi]

Kakuzu isn't a criminal at all, and was not going to kidnap Naruto and then proceed to kill him. Nope, Kakuzu was brutally outnumbered and was not given a trial; he was innocent.

Man. They did him wrong.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Hold up! Okay I guess we gonna forget the fact that he brutally killed kakuzu with that shuriken rasengan. We just gonna look the other way.

That wasn't out of vengeance and there was literally no other way to beat him, besides, Kakashi finished him off.

 

[HiddenWarrior]

o-o form of justice? no, he wanted to kill Hidan, because he killed Asuma. "justice" would involve law or something. Shikamaru wanted revenge for the death of his teacher, it was personal to him.

Justice involves law or something? Might want to look at the definition of justice.

Wanted revenge for the death of his teacher & was personal? Pretty sure I said that minus the obviously personal part but okay.

Again .. How does it corrupt or threaten to influence a drastic change on Shikamaru by exacting this revenge in which it does Naruto/Sasuke?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Don't make Naruto seem like a saint when he aint. The only reason Naruto didn't kill Nagato was coz of valid talk no jutsu from Nagato. Nagato made Naruto's actions seem hypocrital because Nagato asked him what the difference was between what he did to Konoha for what they did to Ame (destroyed Ame for their wars against Iwa by using them as a battlefield) and what Naruto was trying to do to him because of what he did to Jiraiya (although that was honestly and literally self defense as Jiraiya was the one who invaded and attacked).

That's not why, it's literally because it's just not who he is, do you think Sasuke would give a damn? He'd listen, then chidori Nagato right through the heart.

 

[V h o]

Bringing a gun to the bank is not a crime of premeditated murder. It's a crime called armed robbery

Using/killing with said gun/weapon on someone, while having the option to not bring/use the gun is premeditated murder. Lol

So not only will crook get hit with 1st degree murder but also robbery, and probably other charges.

 

[TrollKing]

Using/killing with said gun/weapon on someone, while having the option to not bring/use the gun is premeditated murder. Lol

So not only will crook get hit with 1st degree murder but also robbery, and probably other charges.

I'm simply telling you how the law works. Of course not lot of people won't agree, and that's why I stay away from the law perspective

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hold up! Okay I guess we gonna forget the fact that he brutally killed kakuzu with that shuriken rasengan. We just gonna look the other way.

Didn't Kakashi deliver the killing blow?

 

[V h o]

I'm simply telling you how the law works. Of course not lot of people won't agree, and that's why I stay away from the law perspective

ROFL that butchered version of your "law" isn't the law we practice in this world.

 

[TrollKing]

ROFL that butchered version of your "law" isn't the law we practice in this world.

Well it is. If you really believe in justice, then good luck with that hope of yours

 

[V h o]

Well it is. If you really believe in justice, then good luck with that hope of yours

Lol yet your "law" considers a man who brought and used a weapon on someone, not premeditated murder. Then again your "law" doesn't even agree with reality's term of innocence. lel

 

[Nagi]

Didn't Kakashi deliver the killing blow?

Yeah someone said that. That damn kakashi will never let Naruto get his hands dirty. He want to be Naruto's dirty hands.

 

[TrollKing]

Lol yet your "law" considers a man who brought and used a weapon on someone, not premeditated murder. Then again your "law" doesn't even agree with reality's term of innocence. lel

Innocent until proven guilty. If a murderer is not convicted for forever reason. He's considered as innocent. Pretty clear. It doesn't matter if you insist he's a murderer

 

[V h o]

Innocent until proven guilty. If a murderer is not convicted for forever reason. He's considered as innocent. Pretty clear. It doesn't matter if you insist he's a murderer

Guess the dead body isn't enough evidence for you, nor the DNA or fingerprints or eye witnesses. Not like the court isn't going to be examining the body or crime scene. Lol

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Yeah someone said that. That damn kakashi will never let Naruto get his hands dirty. He want to be Naruto's dirty hands.

Oh, I'll get some hands dirty

Haha, I'm tired

 

[Migster257]

False. Kakashi talked shit about Sasuke's revenge even when it was just about Itachi, you know, when he tired Sasuke up with ninja wire and gave him a bs speach after Sasuke's first encounter with the sound 4.

That's because Sasuke was being stupid. He wanted to kill Naruto, as a matter of fact, tried to. He wanted to go after Itachi at that point, in which he was weaker than a pebble.

 

[Migster257]

Didn't Kakashi deliver the killing blow?

Good thing he did. Can't let Naruto take the honor of Kakashi's work.

 

[TrollKing]

Guess the dead body isn't enough evidence for you, nor the DNA or fingerprints or eye witnesses. Not like the court isn't going to be examining the body or crime scene. Lol

Before court, all are innocent. And in real world, Its a lot more complicated than your "perfect evidence"

 

[V h o]

Before court, all are innocent. And in real world, Its a lot more complicated for your "perfect evidence"

Lol evidently so, everyone is tried before the courts, this case would be no different. However cameras, fingerprints on gun, his robbery, the dead body in the bank, etc. would be enough evidence to tie and convict this murder and robbery to the crook. lel

 

[spade3dg]

Don't make Naruto seem like a saint when he aint. The only reason Naruto didn't kill Nagato was coz of valid talk no jutsu from Nagato. Nagato made Naruto's actions seem hypocrital because Nagato asked him what the difference was between what he did to Konoha for what they did to Ame (destroyed Ame for their wars against Iwa by using them as a battlefield) and what Naruto was trying to do to him because of what he did to Jiraiya (although that was honestly and literally self defense as Jiraiya was the one who invaded and attacked).

More of a saint than that emo kid he likes so much.

Naruto decided against revenge before he talked to Nagato. When he talked to his papa inside the CT. Nagato didnt change his mind, just confirmed what he thought was right. Minato asked him how he could end the cycle. That was before he beat the deva path. He was deciding how to end the cycle of hatred and revenge before talking to Nagato. (Simplified for you)

Youre acting like Naruto went on a quest for vengeance. Nope. He wanted revenge, but he didnt act on it. So how can you bring him up?

 

[TrollKing]

Lol evidently so, everyone is tried before the courts, this case would be no different. However cameras, fingerprints on gun, his robbery, the dead body in the bank, etc. would be enough evidence to tie and convict this murder and robbery to the crook. lel

If you still on the middle aged hero, the robber will not be charged with premeditated murder. Premeditated murder apply to those who knew who to kill. A robber never know who he gonna kill, he will have to determine if he suppose to kill the person or not. If you accuse him of ready to kill whoever, its not entirely correct. Because if he is certainly going to kill, there will be no reasoning involved in his part and he will just kill the guy as soon as he sees him which is cold blooded murder.

I can hold a gun, premeditated to kill somebody; however I encountered someone else, there I got attacked and the fire off accidentally and gets that guy killed. This is for sure not a premeditated murder. But it is according to you