Why is profanity banned ?

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Eh... I don't think it's a good idea to swear for no good reason. It just doesn't make sense to me, like I understand people get into the habit and stuff, but really... It's kind of like those novels we read in class.. People always trying to preserve the innocence of children because we don't want them to face the cruel world where people don't give a fudge.

just my 2 cents anyway
 

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isnt that a bit like saying kids are going to learn how to drive someday, why not let them do it now? You could say the same thing about drugs, alcohol and well you get the point.

I think its a matter of immaturity and irresponsibility, the lack of knowledge to understand what those words can mean.
Difference is. They can't see the road, or the signs.
One, we want to keep our kids as pure as possible for as long as possible.

These words are all stemmed from insults, and add more "hit" to them.

You piece of poop vs. You piece of SHIT.

What sounds more offensive? These words historically have a bad meaning to them that won't go away instantly. The fact of the matter is, if you teach your kid these words, it's only a matter of time before they either use them in school, or think being a big-mouth is okay which ends in them either getting kicked out of school for the former or getting their ass beat for the latter.

My little cousins swear. Because they speak Arabic, their logic is "it doesn't count if it's in English" which is stupid.

If your kids can't honor the simple rules of etiquette, then how long will it take before their out there doing worse stuff? I mean yeah, kids swear on accident without knowing what it means but that's different than just LETTING them.

Times are definitely a-changing though. In about 15 years or so these words will have no effect or meaning.
Eh... I don't think it's a good idea to swear for no good reason. It just doesn't make sense to me, like I understand people get into the habit and stuff, but really... It's kind of like those novels we read in class.. People always trying to preserve the innocence of children because we don't want them to face the cruel world where people don't give a fudge.

just my 2 cents anyway
The thing is. They do it anyways, when a teacher says stop cussing, they'll stop....then 5mins later they'll do it again without the teacher noticing it and even more after school as freely as possible.
 

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In shorter, more legal versions:

Kid finds cuss word. Kid uses cuss word. Parents ask where they learned cuss word. Parents voice complaint against web site because the kid was very young. Parents call a federal organization. Federal Organization brings up C.O.P.P.A. and ask why an underaged user was registered on your site. Website is now void.
 

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In shorter, more legal versions:

Kid finds cuss word. Kid uses cuss word. Parents ask where they learned cuss word. Parents voice complaint against web site because the kid was very young. Parents call a federal organization. Federal Organization brings up C.O.P.P.A. and ask why an underaged user was registered on your site. Website is now void.
Okay, but samething goes for those people. Why do they make it looked down on, they know they're going to keep cussing and become rebellious. Thus creating us teenagers. The teenager will like the feeling of breaking rules and he'll start doing it some more. Once he grows up and faces the real world, maybe he'll either stop or become bored with it and say it a few times.
 

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Okay, but samething goes for those people. Why do they make it looked down on, they know they're going to keep cussing and become rebellious. Thus creating us teenagers. The teenager will like the feeling of breaking rules and he'll start doing it some more. Once he grows up and faces the real world, maybe he'll either stop or become bored with it and say it a few times.
As far as history will bring it, Religion.

But on the flip side, that's not their say until they become 18 years of age, where they are allowed free reign from parental hold.
 

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As far as history will bring it, Religion.

But on the flip side, that's not their say until they become 18 years of age, where they are allowed free reign from parental hold.
They'll say it a little bit longer then 20, just cause they know no one is saying stop. He won't really have a purpose except for being cool around his friends or menacing around his enemies.
but the word nigger isnt censored:|
Once nigger wasn't looked down on, now it is. Just like nigga. Now we consider them Blacks or African American the more "proper" and "respectful" way.
 

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They'll say it a little bit longer then 20, just cause they know no one is saying stop. He won't really have a purpose except for being cool around his friends or menacing around his enemies.
That is then, however. Beforehand, the 20 year old is a child, which can indirectly put a website on a shutdown for "picking up" language his/her parents do not want him/her to learn yet. It's a slippery slope, but in the experience of having to deal with this situation before, it's not a pretty site when you have Feds knocking on your cybernetic door. It's there as a "shield" of sorts to prevent that sort of thing.

Once nigger wasn't looked down on, now it is. Just like nigga. Now we consider them Blacks or African American the more "proper" and "respectful" way.
Because the origins of the slang was created to be used in a derogatory manner back in the day, due to the (what was then current) issues of Human Displacement.
 
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It's not really banned, just frowned upon though now it's becoming more widely accepted.

Why do we bite our tongues around children? To keep them in the dark until they're old enough to appreciate the repercussions of what the words mean to some people. It's undeniable that there are kids who swear before they can even construct proper sentences. The problem is that they don't understand the depth of the words. I knew a kid, about 6-7 years old, who would string racial slurs and profanity into whatever they were saying when they got mad. They learn that these words have a certain shock value to them and use them without truly understanding their origins.

Should we just not be bothered by profanity? You can argue that if people don't react to the words then they'll lose their impact and people will slowly stop using them. The problem is that people will just cycle onto the next lot of offensive terms.
 

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A lot of reasons:

The forum has kids around and such words are not considered family friendly by most societies. None of the standard forums unless rated 18+ allows that. Some may be lax in making you follow rules because they are still new/small and are trying to get more users and build a community but that's about it.

It's not that kids don't learn it. They learn a lot of things- including that not everything is allowed in public, in certain contexts or during the polite conversation.

At the forums we encourage polite and proper conversation. Even if you cannot respect someone's view you must be courteous at least. All of us owe that much to each other as civilized persons. Everyone needs to learn that to keep the forum a nice and neat place to hang out.

Besides, we have members from all kinds of backgrounds and ethnicity. What people find acceptable around the globe differs vastly. Good manners, that are universal are better set of rule to follow in such a case.

In general:

For many- Profanity is the crutch of the conversational cripple. After a certain level of education one should be able to string together a sentence without using cuss words.

It hurts sensibilities of a lot of people- just like racist words do. Their ears are a part of their body and they do not like the words which they deem as trash hurled at them.

You see- adults may use these words but most of them usually learn when to use it and when not to and how to keep it to a minimum. So the word is either ignored or laughed off. But many kids use it just because they think it is cool or just because of the shock value( depending upon the context). And in later stages find it hard to express themselves otherwise- because they never learnt it.
But we humans make it frown upon. As you said once we are more mature, and are able to make a few sentences without using it, why not let other people enjoy the "fun" or "thrill of the moment" if once were older we'll be able to use it as some adults do now. I'm not the type to nonchalantly say a bad word just to seem more cool or menacing. I use it as a way for expressing pain or surprise.
I already covered it all. You need to read my post again.

If your way of having "a thrill of the moment" is not "thrilling" to other people around you then you need to keep it for some other private moment or surrounding. If we are mature then we should not have problem in understanding such a simple thing.
 

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isnt that a bit like saying kids are going to learn how to drive someday, why not let them do it now? You could say the same thing about drugs, alcohol and well you get the point.

I think its a matter of immaturity and irresponsibility, the lack of knowledge to understand what those words can mean.
a few words isn't going to kill the kid or endanger the lives of others
 

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That is then, however. Beforehand, the 20 year old is a child, which can indirectly put a website on a shutdown for "picking up" language his/her parents do not want him/her to learn yet. It's a slippery slope, but in the experience of having to deal with this situation before, it's not a pretty site when you have Feds knocking on your cybernetic door. It's there as a "shield" of sorts to prevent that sort of thing.


Because the origins of the slang was created to be used in a derogatory manner back in the day, due to the (what was then current) issues of Human Displacement.
Even I who think words are just words and think its unnecessary to look down on them. I kinda don't want my kid to learn it, I want him to become intellectual. I can give 2 shits about his friends though, but why do we do so? Why do we feel this way?

It's not really banned, just frowned upon though now it's becoming more widely accepted.

Why do we bite our tongues around children? To keep them in the dark until they're old enough to appreciate the repercussions of what the words mean to some people. It's undeniable that there are kids who swear before they can even construct proper sentences. The problem is that they don't understand the depth of the words. I knew a kid, about 6-7 years old, who would string racial slurs and profanity into whatever they were saying when they got mad. They learn that these words have a certain shock value to them and use them without truly understanding their origins.

Should we just not be bothered by profanity? You can argue that if people don't react to the words then they'll lose their impact and people will slowly stop using them. The problem is that people will just cycle onto the next lot of offensive terms.
Yes, an endless cycle. In 50 years the profanity we know now will probably become another daily basis word. New words are either going to be made to replace those or some words are going to start looking downed on again. So if we know this why even bother? Society is going corrupt us and change us.
 

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Even I who think words are just words and think its unnecessary to look down on them. I kinda don't want my kid to learn it, I want him to become intellectual. I can give 2 shits about his friends though, but why do we do so? Why do we feel this way?
A triumvirate of Religion, Influence, and History mixed together in a melting pot of smut, in all honesty. You take several spiritual societies (not just the super-powerful and super-political Catholic Church [back in the day]) all agreeing that certain words are nasty and shouldn't be said, you bring that powerful influence down upon the people, the generations of parents believe the same thing as well, and you let the melting pot stew for 1.5 thousand years. You have now just enveloped all of society to believe that these words are hot buttons that should be addressed with soapy mouths.

In philosophy, we discuss Lord of the Flies, where those who are put into a place of anarchy have no influences or rules to abide by. Then they all of a sudden say a word that would have been devious against society. Would they think it so? No, they would have considered it just another word.
 

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Even I who think words are just words and think its unnecessary to look down on them. I kinda don't want my kid to learn it, I want him to become intellectual. I can give 2 shits about his friends though, but why do we do so? Why do we feel this way?


Yes, an endless cycle. In 50 years the profanity we know now will probably become another daily basis word. New words are either going to be made to replace those or some words are going to start looking downed on again. So if we know this why even bother? Society is going corrupt us and change us.
I completely agree that current profanity will lose it's impact. As a kid the 'bad words' I was taught never to use were simple ones like ass/bugger/hell. These words have pretty much become perfectly acceptable in everyday conversation.

I don't totally agree with giving up and letting profanity have it's place in life. It would be nice for the words to lose their impact but them being a tad touchy is still quite useful. The reason why I make an effort not to curse around kids is because it is a good way to teach restraint. Teach them to think about whether it is appropriate to say what they were thinking. Kinda like how some of the people who swore their heads off as kids are generally the ones who got physically aggressive first.
 
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