Why is itachi even being compared with nagato??

[The Necromancer]

If so then the totsuka blade argument is irrelevant as Nagato has a counter for it

I mean... if orochimaru had a counter for sasuke's genjutsu he would have used it. If he has a counter that he doesn't use it really doesn't matter does it...? Maybe he could shinra tensei the totsuka blade, but he didn't, so that leads me to believe that he couldn't in time which means it's irrelevant.

 

[The Necromancer]

Renningan vs sharingan no match

i like to confirm wasn't it mentioned that gengutsus don't work on reningan eyes

Realllllyyy.... that's why he was caught in one by jiraiya....

 

[OnPoint]

Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, was capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's heads, and has a superior dojutsu to Itachi. The mere statement that Nagato is 'weak against genjutsu' is just simply pathetic, considering sound genjutsu, at this point, seems unavoidable (this not taking into account that Nagato did end up escaping the technique). The Itachi wank brigade can present nothing to suggest Itachi would not be soloed by Chibaku Tensei.

 

[Untitled]

I told you that the fight would have been nearly over the second nagato was hit by amaterasu, meaning CT wouldn't be out. You don't have a counter to tsukuyomi or genjutsu so i don't see the problem here.

Wait so it would be over the second he got him by amaterasu, if he wasnt an edo?

Shinra tensei, the reason he didnt use it till 5 mins later, was because of kabuto.
It doesnt matter if he can or can't counter tsukuyomi :sy:

Its still Rinnegan > Sharingan

 

[The Necromancer]

Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, was capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's heads, and has a superior dojutsu to Itachi. The mere statement that Nagato is 'weak against genjutsu' is just simply pathetic, considering sound genjutsu, at this point, seems unavoidable (this not taking into account that Nagato did end up escaping the technique). The Itachi wank brigade can present nothing to suggest Itachi would not be soloed by Chibaku Tensei.

He didn't escape the genjutsu, jiraiya ended the genjutsu when he thought the paths were dead. Makes logical sense. And (at least in the nagato vs. itachi fight) the fight would have been over the second he was hit with amaterasu which would be before CT was released.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Why is Itachi said to beat Edo Madara and Tobi as well?

Fanboys

 

[the fallen angel]

Realllllyyy.... that's why he was caught in one by jiraiya....

he wasn't caught in sharingan gengutsu but instead in toad sound gengutsu which is supposedly stronger than normal gengutsus

 

[Ryu sannin]

I told you that the fight would have been nearly over the second nagato was hit by amaterasu, meaning CT wouldn't be out. You don't have a counter to tsukuyomi or genjutsu so i don't see the problem here.

has Nagato been affected visual genjutsu???

I mean... if orochimaru had a counter for sasuke's genjutsu he would have used it. If he has a counter that he doesn't use it really doesn't matter does it...? Maybe he could shinra tensei the totsuka blade, but he didn't, so that leads me to believe that he couldn't in time which means it's irrelevant.

you maybe right but I'm still skeptical about this....too bad we won't get to see their fight.

 

[Frikid]

Nagato can kill itachi.

amaterasu can be absorbed , susano can be shinra tensei'd ...

rinnegan > EMS
so tsukiyomi wont work,

nagato is a sensor so even if he falls under a genjutsu he will now it and he will get out of it.

nagato can summon his 6 paths any time ,
boss summons...

i don't think itachi even stand a chance.

 

[The Necromancer]

has Nagato been affected visual genjutsu???



you maybe right but I'm still skeptical about this....too bad we won't get to see their fight.

Nobody's really tried. Just because nobody's used exploding clay or Mokuton on him doesn't mean it automatically wouldn't work. We have no idea until someone tries, so the closest way is to compare to the genjutsu he was caught it. I'm led to believe that the frog song is on a similar scale to a high powered sharingan genjutsu. The rinnegan has NOT been shown to cancel genjutsu in the same way as the sharingan, and even if it could only an uchiha with the same blood as him can cancel his tsukuyomi, which DOES make it a one shot technique on anyone other than sasuke or maybe his parents.

 

[OnPoint]

He didn't escape the genjutsu, jiraiya ended the genjutsu when he thought the paths were dead. Makes logical sense. And (at least in the nagato vs. itachi fight) the fight would have been over the second he was hit with amaterasu which would be before CT was released.

Totally ignored my point about Nagato's Yin Release, Genjutsu capabilities and superior dojutsu. Typical.

You make no mention of the fact that Kabuto was fully controlling Nagato. Or the fact that Itachi was spamming techniques left right and centre due to his limitless chakra. In what fanfiction did Itachi ever take on Nagato in a 1 vs 1 situation? I question whether he'd even be able to defeat Nagato's summons, considering he'd have to Amaterasu all 7 of them. And this is not even taking into consideration Gedo Mazo. Amaterasu can solo the core? That's why Itachi did it the first time, right? This is the same Itachi who was pushed to his limits by 3 tomoe Sasuke. And you honestly believe he is worth comparing to someone who possesses the power of the Sage of 6 Paths? Really, Itachi has been overrated to shit.

 

[TheSages456]

Nagato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itachi

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Nagato Complete flying with the Juubi with him would solo Itachi+Sasuke+All Uchiha clan easy difficulty

 

[The Necromancer]

Totally ignored my point about Nagato's Yin Release, Genjutsu capabilities and superior dojutsu. Typical.

You make no mention of the fact that Kabuto was fully controlling Nagato. Or the fact that Itachi was spamming techniques left right and centre due to his limitless chakra. In what fanfiction did Itachi ever take on Nagato in a 1 vs 1 situation? I question whether he'd even be able to defeat Nagato's summons, considering he'd have to Amaterasu all 7 of them. And this is not even taking into consideration Gedo Mazo. Amaterasu can solo the core? That's why Itachi did it the first time, right? This is the same Itachi who was pushed to his limits by 3 tomoe Sasuke. And you honestly believe he is worth comparing to someone who possesses the power of the Sage of 6 Paths? Really, Itachi has been overrated to shit.

1. "Kabuto" nearly soloed naruto and bee through nagato using multiple paths at the same time in conjunction after reviving him to his fully functional state. Doesn't really seem like an amature move.

2. He used one amaterasu, fireballs, and susano'o. Not unlimited techniques.

3. Itachi saved naruto and bee alone and besides getting help with one technique he did everything alone.

4. He already handled all of his summons by blinding them all at the same time.

5. He already decided to die by sasuke's hands and was about one day away from dying of sickness anyway.

 

[Gèckö]

oh look another one of these threads

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

People are acting as if Nagato has no knowledge what so ever of Itachi's abilities. As an acting leader of Akatsuki it is not illogical to say that he would have certain amount of knowledge about each member and this includes Itachi.

The fact that Nagato deduced Itachi's possession of Amaterasu from the air pressure just goes to show

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Nagato had prior knowledge about it. Therefore it would also be rather obvious about Itachi prowes in Genjutsu. Itachi using Amaterasu would be useless anyway since Nagato would be priory aware of its use.

Any possible damage done to Nagato's body is mechanically replaced by

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. Asura Path is not just there for attacks but it also provides a good solid defence as well as repairing abilities.

The use of Totsuka Sword and Yata Mirror requires Itachi to bring out Susano and Susano can be dealt with numerous ways.

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would be the ideal counter as you can't fully stop the dogs unless you stop the summoner, which is easier said then done against Nagato.

Does Itachi have good amount of knowledge about Nagato? Well from what we have seen in the manga the only time Itachi was present when an ability of Nagato was used when Deva Path used the body jutsu to hold off Team Guy. Other than that there has been no reference what so ever about Itachi's knowledge on it apart from that Nagato has Rinnegan and maybe myth stories about the Rinnegan.

There are numerous ways how Nagato can counter majority of Itachi's attacks but it can't be said for Itachi when its the other way round.

 

[Greatsage]

I sense dispair and ignorance in some itachi fans. Lolz

 

[OnPoint]

1. "Kabuto" nearly soloed naruto and bee through nagato using multiple paths at the same time in conjunction after reviving him to his fully functional state. Doesn't really seem like an amature move.

2. He used one amaterasu, fireballs, and susano'o. Not unlimited techniques.

3. Itachi saved naruto and bee alone and besides getting help with one technique he did everything alone.

4. He already handled all of his summons by blinding them all at the same time.

5. He already decided to die by sasuke's hands and was about one day away from dying of sickness anyway.

Is this how you must describe things in order to give Itachi a chance? That Kabuto controlling Nagato is anywhere near as good Nagato acting autonomously? Poor. I explained Itachi would have to use Amaterasu at least 7 times in order to defeat the summons. Blinding them only stopped the shared vision, it did not defeat them. The dog summon will simply multiply if Itachi trys to destroy it, and this will give Nagato more angles of vision. I question if Itachi can even live after using said technique on seven seperate occasions.

No mention of what Itachi will do when faced with Gedo Mazo.

No mention of my point about Nagato and genjutsus.

I'll also add that Nagato uses the chakra rods that transmits chakra to each body. He constantly emits/inserts chakra to and from the bodies, so any low level genjutsu is useless.

Chibaku Tensei solos in any circumstance.

Itachi was pushed to his limits. He was made to use Susanoo etc. I really cannot fathom how you're even suggesting that he could defeat Nagato.

 

[The Necromancer]

Is this how you must describe things in order to give Itachi a chance? That Kabuto controlling Nagato is anywhere near as good Nagato acting autonomously? Poor. I explained Itachi would have to use Amaterasu at least 7 times in order to defeat the summons. Blinding them only stopped the shared vision, it did not defeat them. The dog summon will simply multiply if Itachi trys to destroy it, and this will give Nagato more angles of vision. I question if Itachi can even live after using said technique on seven seperate occasions.

No mention of what Itachi will do when faced with Gedo Mazo.

No mention of my point about Nagato and genjutsus.

I'll also add that Nagato uses the chakra rods that transmits chakra to each body. He constantly emits/inserts chakra to and from the bodies, so any low level genjutsu is useless.

Chibaku Tensei solos in any circumstance.

Itachi was pushed to his limits. He was made to use Susanoo etc. I really cannot fathom how you're even suggesting that he could defeat Nagato.

He's only used gedo mazo once, and that crippled him for life.

If blinding the summons didn't cripple them, then where did they go?

Don't remember what you said about genjutsu, but tsukuyomi is still a one shot and he was captured in jiraiya's genjutsu.

We're talking about nagato, not pain, so there are no chakra rods and chakra rods to not cancel genjutsu.

Chibaku tensei is a problem, but he wouldn't start out with it which gives itachi ample time to beat him any other number of ways before it.

 

[OnPoint]

He's only used gedo mazo once, and that crippled him for life.

If blinding the summons didn't cripple them, then where did they go?

Don't remember what you said about genjutsu, but tsukuyomi is still a one shot and he was captured in jiraiya's genjutsu.

We're talking about nagato, not pain, so there are no chakra rods and chakra rods to not cancel genjutsu.

Chibaku tensei is a problem, but he wouldn't start out with it which gives itachi ample time to beat him any other number of ways before it.

He synced with Gedo Mazo to use the Soul Dragon. GD can reek havoc by itself, Nagato does not need to be connected to it.

Pathetic, Itachi was caught in Tayuya's sound genjutsu and would've been easily defeated if Sasuke was not there to help. And we know Jiraiya's Sound Genjutsu > Tayuya's, as the databook showed. The fact that you are comparing sound genjutsu, which even affects your precious god Itachi, to visual genjutsu, shows me that you're clutching at straws. Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, was capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's minds and has a superior dojutsu to Itachi. Yet you believe he can be soloed by Tsukuyomi when this genjutsu comes from a MS user. Weak.

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All the summons have chakra rods in them, that's how his shared vision summons work.

It. Soloes. It would be worth while comparing Itachi to the likes of MS or EMS Sasuke, not Nagato.