Why is Itachi always compared to the Top Tiers?

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Minato always starts by scattering kunai? How many battles have we seen with Minato? Who says he can't summon one of the frogs?
In the war he scattered kunai. In his battle A he scattered kunai. Against tobi he scatttered kunai. That's what he does.

Minato summoning a frog. How would that even help. The frog would only get in the way it can't keep up with Itac and I hardly doubt Minato gets the chance to use one.
 

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There is nothing to suggest Minato did shunshin all the way across the village. He did have seals scattered across the village itself no? Also it didn't show an instance of Minato even running. The reason I consider Itachi on par with Minato because both have shown incredible speed feats that put them on top. Only with ftg minato surpasses Itachi.

Moving on you still assume Minato fights like you want him to. He's the analyzing type he doesn't rush. Minato stars by scattering kunai and itachi starts with a genjutsu. This is a manga fact. By that Minato will already be caught ina genjutsu before he does hardly anything.

Again why do you keeep bringing up susanoo. What sense does it make to use this technique against an opponent who can teleport. That is silly and if you think Itachi would waste his chakra on a tech that won't even touch his opponent is sillier.
You keep think Minato fights like A in constant motion. Minato isn't shown to fight like this. He also has to wary not to attack while making eye contact. Assuming he can get out the genjutsu placed on him in the beginning of the fight. Also assuming he can get close to Itachi when all Itachi has to do is stay away from the kujnai
Who is to say that he wouldn't fight Itachi in constant motion the fight hasn't and probably won't happen...but on a side note you can't tell me that Minato CAN'T fight in constant motion because it is definitely within his capabilities and within the realm of possibilities for him to do so against a sharingan user... :cool:

Also we are all going to come up with ideal situations for each character to win; so let's talk about both character's ideal situations.. Itachi's ideal situation is catching Minato with a genjutsu..that's his only chance...however Minato would wreck him and piss on his grave after their confrontation in every other circumstance... U_U
 

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Minato, Prime Hiruzen and DSM Kabuto are just below top tier IMO - they're on Itachi's level. Don't know why Itachi is compared to the rest, however.
 

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In the war he scattered kunai. In his battle A he scattered kunai. Against tobi he scatttered kunai. That's what he does.

Minato summoning a frog. How would that even help. The frog would only get in the way it can't keep up with Itac and I hardly doubt Minato gets the chance to use one.


This link says that you can drop a giant ass toad in an instant...I'm not Einstein but I think an instant is pretty fast U_U
 

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Minato summoning a frog. How would that even help. The frog would only get in the way it can't keep up with Itac and I hardly doubt Minato gets the chance to use one.
He can also summon Ma and Pa, they won't get in the way they'll ride on his shoulders..they also have a genjutsu that even Itachi can't escape :ice:
 

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Who is to say that he wouldn't fight Itachi in constant motion the fight hasn't and probably won't happen...but on a side note you can't tell me that Minato CAN'T fight in constant motion because it is definitely within his capabilities and within the realm of possibilities for him to do so against a sharingan user... :cool:

Also we are all going to come up with ideal situations for each character to win; so let's talk about both character's ideal situations.. Itachi's ideal situation is catching Minato with a genjutsu..that's his only chance...however Minato would wreck him and piss on his grave after their confrontation in every other circumstance... U_U
Really its I'm in no need for troll replies. We don't know much about the limits of his technique so to say he can do something without seeing it is dum. Btw hello Itachi has won every fight with genjutsu so I don't see how its a stretch to say he would win this one the same way.

Not only that his kunai is marked with chakra seals that Itachi can see as colors. He would already be catious of it before it is even thrown. Yeah but whatever Minato fans have clearly overrun this thread. I don't see how anyone with a logical outlook of how both people fight can see this battle in Minatos favor.
 

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Really its I'm in no need for troll replies. We don't know much about the limits of his technique so to say he can do something without seeing it is dum. Btw hello Itachi has won every fight with genjutsu so I don't see how its a stretch to say he would win this one the same way.

Not only that his kunai is marked with chakra seals that Itachi can see as colors. He would already be catious of it before it is even thrown. Yeah but whatever Minato fans have clearly overrun this thread. I don't see how anyone with a logical outlook of how both people fight can see this battle in Minatos favor.
Well let's see here if I remember correctly Jiraiya taught him the summoning jutsu and he made a contract with the frogs... so yes he can summon frogs and all of them for that matter including Ma and Pa

And that's funny because I dont remember ever SEEING Itachi decisively winning a fight (by himself) at all until he was brought back with Edo..so to say he could win without first seeing it would be dum as you say.. U_U

And also we have seen Minato summon Gamabunta to pin down the ninetails.. U_U

YOUR LOGIC = FAIL
 
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Well let's see here if I remember correctly Jiraiya taught him the summoning jutsu and he made a contract with the frogs... so yes he can summon frogs and all of them for that matter including Ma and Pa

And that's funny because I dont remember Itachi ever decisively winning a fight (by himself) at all until he was brought back with Edo..so to say he could win without first seeing it would be dum as you say.. U_U
Minato has the frog summons. Yes I know this already. Does he use them in a fight no. Rarelt it seems. Would he use it in this fight? Unlikely because he doesn't start with summons and only uses them when he really needs to.

Wow Itachi has never won battles by himself? I think you should reread the manga a bit. I won't further reply to you unless its something worthy.
 

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There is nothing to suggest Minato did shunshin all the way across the village. He did have seals scattered across the village itself no? Also it didn't show an instance of Minato even running. The reason I consider Itachi on par with Minato because both have shown incredible speed feats that put them on top. Only with ftg minato surpasses Itachi.
he appeared on the top of kurama's head and summoned gamabunta, seals cannot be placed mid air, also whenever he uses FTG the kunai or seal is shown always. Hell sometimes they even get a whole panel to themselves

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he didnt use FTG there
 

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the reason for this. Is because "any character who has one shot kill moves (sealing, soul stealing, jintton, boil, haxxed speed with strenght, etc etc) has a chance agaisnt top tiers.

Obviously Rinnegan users are an exception to those that have one shot kill moves that are ninjutsu.
 

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Like it or not, Izanami is Canon, and it k0es ALOT of people in the manga, eye close or not.
He isn't getting a chance to pull it off from anyone in the top tier. He had to get killed a few times to pull it off on Kabuto and he had Sasuke supporting him.
 

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Troll thread deserves troll response;

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Itachi > 10 tails. You mad bro?



Seriously though why itachi fans always fall for troll threads and feel the need to constantly defend a character like itachi who's abilities still remain a mystery, simple because he always pulls something new from the bag. Perhaps when sasuke said he feels itachi's power flowing through him, we might see an ability or technique that sasuke later recognises and pays homage to as itachi's ability. Secondly all his fights has he been hindered with another purpose which isnt to kill and that always makes life harder for himself. The stronger the opponent the higher this task becomes and as kakashi stated against akatsuki member's you might end up killing them because its almost impossible to fight with the intention of not killing a high level opponent. Yet he has succeeded one way or another in all his fights when given these hindrance. Kishi has always shackled him, either by this unknown illness to his battles always being for other purposes
 
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Troll thread deserves troll response;

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Itachi > 10 tails. You mad bro?



Seriously though why itachi fans always fall for troll threads and feel the need to constantly defend a character like itachi who's abilities still remain a mystery, simple because he always pulls something new from the bag. Perhaps when sasuke said he feels itachi's power flowing through him, we might see an ability or technique that sasuke later recognises and pays homage to as itachi's ability. Secondly all his fights has he been hindered with another purpose which isnt to kill and that always makes life harder for himself. The stronger the opponent the higher this task becomes and as kakashi stated against akatsuki member's you might end up killing them because its almost impossible to fight with the intention of not killing a high level opponent. Yet he has succeeded one way or another in all his fights when given these hindrance. Kishi has always shackled him, either by this unknown illness to his battles always being for other purposes
u actually said u should give a troll response
but u end up giving a lot of explanation
u fanboy

@ bold :flaw: wake up kid


Well, actually we don't think he's God. God is one step behid him!!! lol:p
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