Why is Itachi always compared to the Top Tiers?

[Dantee]

I understand that we cannot make definitive assumptions about his fighting style, but I presented a situation in which him doing that for of attack would lead to his victory. We cannot count out the fact that he CAN do that.

Secondly, you are entirely wrong that Itachi's base speed is equal to Minato's. Minato traversed the ENTIRE LEAF VILLAGE without using FTG in less than a second. Itachi has not shown anything near that level.

A fighting style with no eye contact is in fact easier for Minato than other ninja because he can teleport to kunai not within Itachi's line of sight. Another possible strategy, that, knowing Minato's genius, is probable.

And finally, as to Itachi using genjutsu on Minato without eye contact, yes, this could certainly be an ace in the hole. But if Minato has summoned even 1 frog to help him fight (also entirely within the realm of possibility) they can break him out, seeing as how Itachi's non-direct eye contact genjutsu is far weaker than his normal one.

And lastly, yes, I realize Itachi CAN use these things to win. But simply, the fact of the matter is that Minato DOES have the resources and the ability to defend against them. Whereas Itachi has no way of defending himself from an attack appearing out of nowhere from Minato's S/T barrier, and he would similarly have little chance to defend from an attack where Minato uses the radius of FTG, especially since Itachi doesn't know about the radius.

This will be my last post because has their opinions about this fight. I personally think Itachi is just as fast Minato and really you guys might just be overhyping his speed just a bit. His S/T barrier really is useless in this fight since its only used to transfer external attacks and redirect them somewhere else. Secondly Minato has to stay stationary leaving him vulnerable. I don't see this tech being used in a fight.

Minato will have little chance to actually summon and a frog would less likkely help him this fight. More like get in the way because they are not fast enough to hit Itachi and easily suspect to genjutsu. Still ignoring my fact how is Minato breaking out a genjutsu Itachi always starts with in a fight. Minato teleporting to an unknown kunai? Ha if Itachi deflects them all he's aware where they are located.

Touch seals can be seen with the sharigan. Itachi doesn't know about the radius but Minato knows nothing about amaterasu and itachis other genjutsu abilites. You still think he fights like you say he would but there is nothing to back this up.

I'm done here.

 

[LifelessKyuubi]

This went from a debate-able thread about Itachi & several others to ANOTHER ****ING THREAD ABOUT ITACHI VS MINATO 2 DEAD PEOPLE

 

[LifelessKyuubi]

This will be my last post because has their opinions about this fight. I personally think Itachi is just as fast Minato and really you guys might just be overhyping his speed just a bit. His S/T barrier really is useless in this fight since its only used to transfer external attacks and redirect them somewhere else. Secondly Minato has to stay stationary leaving him vulnerable. I don't see this tech being used in a fight.

Minato will have little chance to actually summon and a frog would less likkely help him this fight. More like get in the way because they are not fast enough to hit Itachi and easily suspect to genjutsu. Still ignoring my fact how is Minato breaking out a genjutsu Itachi always starts with in a fight. Minato teleporting to an unknown kunai? Ha if Itachi deflects them all he's aware where they are located.

Touch seals can be seen with the sharigan. Itachi doesn't know about the radius but Minato knows nothing about amaterasu and itachis other genjutsu abilites. You still think he fights like you say he would but there is nothing to back this u

I'm done here.

you need to get off the base NOW no one was faster than minato he DOESN'T have to be stationary to do this to say Itachi is as fast as minato is blasphemy & an insult to the anime/manga you should be forever banned from this sight I'm a minato fan yes but I was Itachi fsn before that their equal in their fields but no matter the facts minato is dead & so is itachi therefore this convo is irrelevant but in my opinion minato takes this with the highest difficulty available youve offended kishi with your blasphemous statements

 

[partha420]

I agree with your list,but itachi>Kabuto.
Some itachi fans think Itachi's speed = Minato's base speed!!
Well,sweet dreams.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Thank you.
And
Minato > itachi speed
Minato > itachi power
Minato > itachi intelligence
Minato > itachi swag

 

[LifelessKyuubi]

Thank you.
And
Minato > itachi speed
Minato > itachi power
Minato > itachi intelligence
Minato > itachi swag

I'm gonna correct you list

Minato>>>Itachi speed
Minato<<<Itachi power
Minato=Itachi intelligence
Minato=Itachi swag <== my favorite lmao

 

[Stark]

I'm bringing Logic..

 

[Stark]

Thank you.
And
Minato > itachi speed
Minato > itachi power
Minato > itachi intelligence
Minato > itachi swag

Saw your last name.. Stopped reading..

 

[partha420]

Thank you.
And
Minato > itachi speed
Minato > itachi power
Minato > itachi intelligence
Minato > itachi swag

correct!!!

 

[FizzyDrink]

This will be my last post because has their opinions about this fight. I personally think Itachi is just as fast Minato and really you guys might just be overhyping his speed just a bit. His S/T barrier really is useless in this fight since its only used to transfer external attacks and redirect them somewhere else. Secondly Minato has to stay stationary leaving him vulnerable. I don't see this tech being used in a fight.

Minato will have little chance to actually summon and a frog would less likkely help him this fight. More like get in the way because they are not fast enough to hit Itachi and easily suspect to genjutsu. Still ignoring my fact how is Minato breaking out a genjutsu Itachi always starts with in a fight. Minato teleporting to an unknown kunai? Ha if Itachi deflects them all he's aware where they are located.

Touch seals can be seen with the sharigan. Itachi doesn't know about the radius but Minato knows nothing about amaterasu and itachis other genjutsu abilites. You still think he fights like you say he would but there is nothing to back this up.

I'm done here.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no way Itachi can cross all of Konoha in under a second. So no, I do not feel as though I'm overrating Minato's speed. I feel as though you are overrating Itachi's.

Minato's S/T barrier is NOT useless in this battle. It works exactly as you say, but he can redirect them wherever he wants. This includes inside of Itachi's Susanoo. That's pretty much an insta-win for Minato. Say Itachi tries to throw a Magatama. That would be the end for him!

And you say that Itachi always starts with genjutsu in a fight? Alright then. Minato starts battles with speed blitzes and throwing his kunai. His attack is faster, and as such, he will take the offensive first, not allowing Itachi to start out with genjutsu. And as I said, he most likely knows about Uchiha ocular genjutsu, so he has all the more reason to spread kunai so he can teleport out of eye-contact. And I'm not saying that Minato will teleport to an unknown kunai, but Itachi certainly won't know WHICH kunai he teleports to.

Did A know about Amaterasu? No. But did he still dodge it? Yes. Minato has that kind of speed, he is fully capable of dodging Amaterasu without knowing about it in the first place. This would come about with his random teleportation to avoid eye contact, or to provide him with a better angle of attack.

 

[DrPhibes31]

Naruto top tier????
Sorry just no....
Naruto for one only has two moves in his arsenal rasengan and shadow clone
Yeah he has a shitload of chakra but he cant take on tobi if it wasnt for kakashi and gai and bee he would be dead by now nah no way

Dude he has Harem no Jutsu that's all he needs .

 

[MystNin13]

I really do agree with your top tier list but i would still put him up there as top 10, and in all fairness...Itachi did defeat Kabuto

 

[ulqui0rra]

This will be my last post because has their opinions about this fight. I personally think Itachi is just as fast Minato and really you guys might just be overhyping his speed just a bit. His S/T barrier really is useless in this fight since its only used to transfer external attacks and redirect them somewhere else. Secondly Minato has to stay stationary leaving him vulnerable. I don't see this tech being used in a fight.

Minato will have little chance to actually summon and a frog would less likkely help him this fight. More like get in the way because they are not fast enough to hit Itachi and easily suspect to genjutsu. Still ignoring my fact how is Minato breaking out a genjutsu Itachi always starts with in a fight. Minato teleporting to an unknown kunai? Ha if Itachi deflects them all he's aware where they are located.

Touch seals can be seen with the sharigan. Itachi doesn't know about the radius but Minato knows nothing about amaterasu and itachis other genjutsu abilites. You still think he fights like you say he would but there is nothing to back this up.

I'm done here.

wou the lil brother of itachi comes to rescue

man are you crying

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[MystNin13]

Well we saw old Hiruzen win against the 1st & 2nd + Orochimaru. People assume that just become Hashirama did not use Tree world that they was not at full power. When if he used it Oro, Hiruzen , and Tobirama would have all fell asleep which was not ideal.

Didnt Hiruzen die in that fight and Orochimaru live?

 

[stich666]

Im sorry did any foget bout the genjutsu sword(one hit binds you to and infinant genjustsu) and ofcourse his shield (witch reflects any attack)....itachi will beat most of that list....obito and nagato are the closest to beat itachi ...im sure thers others

 

[Dantee]

As far as I'm concerned, there is no way Itachi can cross all of Konoha in under a second. So no, I do not feel as though I'm overrating Minato's speed. I feel as though you are overrating Itachi's.

Minato's S/T barrier is NOT useless in this battle. It works exactly as you say, but he can redirect them wherever he wants. This includes inside of Itachi's Susanoo. That's pretty much an insta-win for Minato. Say Itachi tries to throw a Magatama. That would be the end for him!

And you say that Itachi always starts with genjutsu in a fight? Alright then. Minato starts battles with speed blitzes and throwing his kunai. His attack is faster, and as such, he will take the offensive first, not allowing Itachi to start out with genjutsu. And as I said, he most likely knows about Uchiha ocular genjutsu, so he has all the more reason to spread kunai so he can teleport out of eye-contact. And I'm not saying that Minato will teleport to an unknown kunai, but Itachi certainly won't know WHICH kunai he teleports to.

Did A know about Amaterasu? No. But did he still dodge it? Yes. Minato has that kind of speed, he is fully capable of dodging Amaterasu without knowing about it in the first place. This would come about with his random teleportation to avoid eye contact, or to provide him with a better angle of attack.

There is nothing to suggest Minato did shunshin all the way across the village. He did have seals scattered across the village itself no? Also it didn't show an instance of Minato even running. The reason I consider Itachi on par with Minato because both have shown incredible speed feats that put them on top. Only with ftg minato surpasses Itachi.

Moving on you still assume Minato fights like you want him to. He's the analyzing type he doesn't rush. Minato stars by scattering kunai and itachi starts with a genjutsu. This is a manga fact. By that Minato will already be caught ina genjutsu before he does hardly anything.

Again why do you keeep bringing up susanoo. What sense does it make to use this technique against an opponent who can teleport. That is silly and if you think Itachi would waste his chakra on a tech that won't even touch his opponent is sillier.
You keep think Minato fights like A in constant motion. Minato isn't shown to fight like this. He also has to wary not to attack while making eye contact. Assuming he can get out the genjutsu placed on him in the beginning of the fight. Also assuming he can get close to Itachi when all Itachi has to do is stay away from the kujnai

 

[akimofnevis]

I don't really see how you fans can compare Itachi to the all-time greats. He just does not have enough power. In my opinion the Top Tier characters are:

• Nagato
• Tobi
• Naruto
• Hiruzen Prime
• Madara
• Hashirama
• Minato(borderline)
• Kabuto(without edo borderline)

Itachi just cannot defeat any of the characters listed above. Also Itachi never defeated any character of significance without a decent amount of help, along with his poor stamina I don't really see how he can make top tier.

Discuss, no fanboyism.

he defeat nagato, he defeated naruto twice n he recently defeated kabuto , n if he fought the rest of the people on your list he most likely can defeat them

 

[Minator93]

LOL some people actually think that Itachi's base speed = Minato's Base Speed :sy:

 

[Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan]

There is nothing to suggest Minato did shunshin all the way across the village. He did have seals scattered across the village itself no? Also it didn't show an instance of Minato even running. The reason I consider Itachi on par with Minato because both have shown incredible speed feats that put them on top. Only with ftg minato surpasses Itachi.

Moving on you still assume Minato fights like you want him to. He's the analyzing type he doesn't rush. Minato stars by scattering kunai and itachi starts with a genjutsu. This is a manga fact. By that Minato will already be caught ina genjutsu before he does hardly anything.

Again why do you keeep bringing up susanoo. What sense does it make to use this technique against an opponent who can teleport. That is silly and if you think Itachi would waste his chakra on a tech that won't even touch his opponent is sillier.
You keep think Minato fights like A in constant motion. Minato isn't shown to fight like this. He also has to wary not to attack while making eye contact. Assuming he can get out the genjutsu placed on him in the beginning of the fight. Also assuming he can get close to Itachi when all Itachi has to do is stay away from the kujnai

Minato always starts by scattering kunai? How many battles have we seen with Minato? Who says he can't summon one of the frogs?

 

[Arbalest]

Itachi>Minato deal with it for crying out loud.
I agree Sage Mode Kabuto>Itachi.

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Read please...I'm tired of arguing about this
Minato is too fast; can't hit what you can't see and speed kills... end of discussion U_U