Lel. You didnt get it. And you still pit jer against Sakura when I have repeated over and over that it is pointless given Sakura had the most display of feats.
Im trying to say that she isnt that bad of a Hyuuga. Her Byakugan isnt inferior to Neji or everyone else in the Hyuuga. Her arsenal is the Twin Lion Fist combo with 64 strikes. But then again, it was never fully shown so, wing it. Now tell me another Hyuuga who has that.
Lel 5 jutsu.
Jyuuken is mpre than enough. Does she have time to train for more. I guess she needs to concentrate in Jyuuken.
Being a Hyuuga, she has her Byakugan to complement her Jyuuken. And it is a very efficient jutsu.
Nope, you just speculated yet another nonexistent Hinata.
Dude, if I wanted to I could say "Sakura has been with Sasuke, he could easily train her in her genjustu skills and with Hinata's far eye sight there's no way in hell her genjustu would fail."
You Hinata fans are a special kind of trolls.
The kind that are at godly levels of awful.
The number of feats displayed isn't changing a thing, it only shows Hinata is a fodder with few feats to display.
You Hyuuga fans rely on pure fanfic everytime I see you.
So because Sakura is a greater character you need to bring up bullshit reasons to make her look weaker?
Then you need to grant Hinata more than 8+ years of experience just to have her face off against a war arc Sakura.
And you said it yourself "Man this is a debate." It isn't debatable if you need to bullshit in order to even make the fight fair.
Sakura curbstomps, I'm bored of replying to you now troll.
Return to wanking that clan of yours that fails to survive twigs and rocks.
So because Sakura is a greater character you need to bring up bullshit reasons to make her look weaker?
Then you need to grant Hinata more than 8+ years of experience just to have her face off against a war arc Sakura.
And you said it yourself "Man this is a debate." It isn't debatable if you need to bullshit in order to even make the fight fair.
Sakura curbstomps, I'm bored of replying to you now troll.
Return to wanking that clan of yours that fails to survive twigs and rocks.
Nah Im not pulling her down.
These are my last words in this thread.
Im a Sakura fan, also A Hinata one.
I honestpy think that Sakura beats Hinata 4/5 battles.
This is based personally and with manga panels. Feel free to criticise me.
Sakura had the actual feats. All Hinata has potential, implications and background.
Sadly Im labeled as such you know.
I wish you can know me better.
Maybe these arent my last words really.
Im charging my phone bye
Hinata has the Byakugan, and is incredibly proficient in taijutsu, this makes it much harder for Sakura, as Sakura's main strength is her massive physical prowess, which she can only use in close combat. Hinata has Longer attack range(due to air palm and twin lion fist pretty much doubles her wingspan and can be shot with air palm to take away chakra with a touch)
Surely, Sakura could destroy floor and stumble Hinata into the air but that's most likely not going to happen because Hinata could easily read Sakura Movement with her Byakugan that can see things instantly and also Hinata could see Sakura building her chakra through her fist beforehand.
Once Sakura gets close to Hinata, whoever lands the first hit will most likely dominate the rest of the fight. It's basically super physical strength+medical ninjutsu vs incredibly pinpointed blows and the Byakugan.
From the way I see it, I say Hinata would be the one to strike first. I don't see how Sakura thrashing her arm allow her self to successfully able to strike first by simply charging randomly throwing her punches which leaves her movement wide open.
Hyuga are trained to be aware of the surrounding so they can easily counter sakura slow ass punch with Jyuuken. Jyuuken with 64 palms can attack simultaneously all in a matter of seconds.
Hinata Byakugan makes sure of her reaction time being better and her gentle fist and taijutsu training puts on par with Neji which takes care of her offensive speed. Sakura has always been reckless in most case, any attempt to strike Hinata will allow her movement to be wasted as Hinata with her byakugan can easily detect Sakura.
Most people believe Sakura have great evasive skills, but they are heavenly mistaken as it was already laid out by Lady Byakugan very nicely.
Sakura has failed to evade the following
1. Couldn’t dodge Omoi’s fodder kick
2. Couldn’t dodge A single wooden spike and needed saving from Kakashi
3. Couldn’t dodge Sasuke’s chidori and needed saving from Kakashi
4. Couldn’t dodge Kabuto’s butt, which knocked her out cold
5. Couldn’t dodge a flying rock
Her only good evasive feats are against Sasori’s puppets, and even then, that is undermined by the fact that Sakura essentially had prep time to analyze Sasori’s attack pattern while chiyo controlled her and kept her safe from harm. Otherwise, she would have died instantly.
In other words, if Sakura has no prep time to analyze the opponents attack pattern, then she won’t be able to avoid them easily.
In fact, Sakura was only able to avoid certain death 13 times due to chiyo saving her ass with her puppetry skills from sasori’s attacks and her having prep time to make 3 antidotes, of which 2 were used on her.
3 times in 265
4 times in 267
1 time in 268
2 times in 269
1 time in 270
1 time in 271
1 time in 273
2 times in 274
Thats a total of 15 fails of Sakura avoiding Sasori’s attacks, adding the fails from the list above, and we’ve got 20 moments where Sakura has failed to use her “super awesome” evasive skills.
However this is where Twin Lion fist can come in handy, according to the databook this technique does not only increase the shape & form increase mid range destructive attack and or block all the chakras point but also sap all the chakra to whom when he/she touch.
Hinata Twin lionfist have both assets in destructive power ( Probably large scale like Sakura) which can do outer damage and gentle fist style that would block all the chakra points and cause inner damage
In Naruto the Last, Hinata got a power-up from Hamura the same way Naruto and Sasuke got a power up from Hagoromo which puts Hinata godly tier and if that's the case, Hinata would easily defeat Sakura by leaps and bound but I digress, I won't lay out as a fact until I see this movie with my own eyes.
Really, im honored to have fellow Hinata fans here who defend her when she is pitted against Sakura. I believe that she can stand on par with Sakura. But really being better over the other is a matter of preference.
Hinata has the Byakugan, and is incredibly proficient in taijutsu, this makes it much harder for Sakura, as Sakura's main strength is her massive physical prowess, which she can only use in close combat. Hinata has Longer attack range(due to air palm and twin lion fist pretty much doubles her wingspan and can be shot with air palm to take away chakra with a touch)
Surely, Sakura could destroy floor and stumble Hinata into the air but that's most likely not going to happen because Hinata could easily read Sakura Movement with her Byakugan that can see things instantly and also Hinata could see Sakura building her chakra through her fist beforehand.
Once Sakura gets close to Hinata, whoever lands the first hit will most likely dominate the rest of the fight. It's basically super physical strength+medical ninjutsu vs incredibly pinpointed blows and the Byakugan.
From the way I see it, I say Hinata would be the one to strike first. I don't see how Sakura thrashing her arm allow her self to successfully able to strike first by simply charging randomly throwing her punches which leaves her movement wide open.
Hyuga are trained to be aware of the surrounding so they can easily counter sakura slow ass punch with Jyuuken. Jyuuken with 64 palms can attack simultaneously all in a matter of seconds.
Hinata Byakugan makes sure of her reaction time being better and her gentle fist and taijutsu training puts on par with Neji which takes care of her offensive speed. Sakura has always been reckless in most case, any attempt to strike Hinata will allow her movement to be wasted as Hinata with her byakugan can easily detect Sakura.
Most people believe Sakura have great evasive skills, but they are heavenly mistaken as it was already laid out by Lady Byakugan very nicely.
However this is where Twin Lion fist can come in handy, according to the databook this technique does not only increase the shape & form increase mid range destructive attack and or block all the chakras point but also sap all the chakra to whom when he/she touch.
Hinata Twin lionfist have both assets in destructive power ( Probably large scale like Sakura) which can do outer damage and gentle fist style that would block all the chakra points and cause inner damage
In Naruto the Last, Hinata got a power-up from Hamura the same way Naruto and Sasuke got a power up from Hagoromo which puts Hinata godly tier and if that's the case, Hinata would easily defeat Sakura by leaps and bound but I digress, I won't lay out as a fact until I see this movie with my own eyes.
Really, im honored to have fellow Hinata fans here who defend her when she is pitted against Sakura. I believe that she can stand on par with Sakura. But really being better over the other is a matter of preference.
That's irrelevant considering it'd all be useless in the end taking into consideration that Sakura would just regenerate anything instantly again.
And again, you're talking about potential while I'm talking about what everything is.
Hinata's real deadly techs require close range, once she even thinks about getting close one punch from Sakura would send her flying farther than almighty push.
This is what I mean when I say Hinata is overrated, Sakura would curbstomp her ass.
Yet you guys say it's debatable, then when you fail to provide any damn reason on how it's debatable you say "Well Hinata has the POTENTIAL to win." From there on out you give Hinata false power ups, and create anything to make Sakura seem weaker, then treat it as officially confirmed "Hinata > Sakura."
If you're gonna create handicaps don't even consider the match debatable. My point, you tell me it's debatable, then you're telling me because the match is soooo unfair and such a large gap in power Hinata needs a handicap.
OVER. RATED.
So you tell me someone who needs a hell lot of handicaps and forms that don't even exist to us as of now, along with speculation on justus that she has, which odds are she doesn't, we both know she has the elements, but what are even the odds she uses them?
Then you create a scene of Sakura using water to battle, just to say Hinata has lighting, tell me, when have you EVER seen Sakura battle with water.
See you're just trying to create disadvantages to Hinata's favor.
You think Sakura is about to chunk rocks when she could simply punch the head off of Hinata, or leave the ground around her feet shattered along with Hinata?
This is what I mean't, how in the slightest can you argue Hinata isn't overrated or that I'm viewing her poorly when YOU need to create many handicaps, create scenes that are super unlikely to happen(Sakura attacking with elements) to create some disadvantages on Sakura's side.
Then you are even willing to say it's debatable, when in truth it's a curbstomp.
And Hinata's doujustu doesn't even offer reaction speed, Sakura reacted to something before Naruto, AND Sasuke could.
Stop bullcrapping.
Naruto/Sasuke too slow to react and saved by clone, the only clone that could react opposed to the many others.
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Sakura able to react and at the least scream, and dodge the attack.
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Naruto~"Sasuke avoid the white hands!" "It'll swallow you up in a second!! And it's too damn fast!!"
Sasuke~" I know."
Now tell me who just reacted to something fast enough to catch Naruto/Sasuke, and dodged it after they failed to even react.
You try to bring Sakura down and give Hinata the most bullshit advantages just to say debatable.
I'm sorry, but that thing about "you're talking about potential while I'm talking about what everything is." is your own bullcrap. In fact, we reached an impasse, since my logic has as much speculation as yours (and my speculation is based on factual data, while yours is based on hype... yes, hype, because it seems under your logic that Sakura has infinite cells and chakra to keep regenerating... lol, give me a break xD).
Anyways, don't be so idiot. I'm not creating disadventages or adventages here, I'm speaking with the databook information.
Both Sakura and Hinata most effective moves can only be dealt in short range (yeah, Sakura could blast Hinata's head with a punch, or Hinata could block Sakura's chakra points so her punches cannot blast a fly), but the nature elements in their arsenal are official information.
If you're so in denial, don't blame me. Blame Kishimoto, since his logic > yours.
Look, Hinata has Jyuuken and Byakugan, superior feats disrupting amd controling and perceiving chakra.
Sakura has yin seal and medical abilities, and best possible chakra control.
So here's the thing. They clash.
Sakura's taijutsu vs Hinata's taijutsu.
Sakura's taijutsu is evasion and power punches. Her strength is a medical skill. With her intelligence, she can determine her opponent's attack pattern and dominant hand or something to adjust and readjust. Her speed is decent.
Hinata's taijutsu the Jyuuken is formidable, with less force exerted, she can land a deadly attack, to the tenketsu or to the internal organs. Her speed is decent..
First hit well whoever makes it gets the upperhand.
Sakura punches Hinata, what are the odds that the Hyuuga can dodge.
Hinata attacks, should Sakura dodge? She can technically heal internal organs right, with creation rebirth.
She should avoid further attacks until she is healed. Healing while further receiving jyuuken attacks wont help regeneration at all.
Wait she has medical scalpel right? It is a nifty thing for medics. And it functions like the jyuuken minus chakra disruption. It is quite deadly if Hinata gets hit. The only way she could counter that is thru Twin Lion Fist or spam Air palms to knock off Sakura anyhow.
Hinata is expected to be versatile here because Sakura can regenerate from her attacks. she must keep on spamming her Jyuken while keeping in check her defense against Sakura's power punch. She still have 64 strikes as finishing move or maybe not.
On Sakura, she is intelligent, and she knows she needs to be cautious fighting a jyuuken user. She could also alter the terrain to her advantage. But really, i think it will affect her too. And Hinata has Byakugan
The odds for Hinata is Sakura's amount of chakra in her seal. Now if internal organs are damaged and mystical palm wont suffice since it is internal, creation rebirth is the only option. And it takes a considerable amount of chakra.
But you need to remember one important aspect : Sakura is recognized as one of the main charackters and Hinata is one of the supporting characters , so for me comparing them is a little bit stupid .And we do not know much about the supporting characters because they do not appear too often in the manga .
I don't see why not, when it was already shown that Hinata's Air Palm is stronger than Choji's strength. She was able to easily deflect the Juubi's hand while Choji was having trouble holding one down, much less pushing it back.
If Choji expands a few of his body parts, which Hinata would be able to see coming, Hinata could counter with an Air Palm, sending Choji's hand or leg flying away whilst damaging said body parts so that he won't be able to use it again properly. In the end, Choji's atacks or not fast, so when up against someone with crazy arm speed, he's got no hope. Let Choji expand into a giant and Hinata has an easy target to Air Palm spam at, and with each air Palm he gets hit with, his odds of winning and ability to fight on will diminish more and more..
im sure she can gentle fist shino while dodging every single bug Lol
These insects pose little to no threat to Hinata. Hinata can either choose to use Air Palm or One Blow Body on them as a ways to kill them. Alternatively, she can simply out run them and head for Shino himself, is that not a possibility?
Unlike Shadow Clone, which uses raw chakra, Insect Clone has a large amount of insects take the shape and form of the user. Due to this nature of the technique, Hinata, thanks to her Byakugan would be able to tell that the clones are insects and not really Shino. This clone, due to being made of insects and not being an actual clone of Shino, is unable to fight, and due to this, it would be a highly risky move for Shino to use, as Hinata could simple identify it as a clone and use Air Palm or Lion Fists as a means to kill a large number of the bugs that are making the clone, in turn weakening Shino’s arsenal.
Shino would never be able to land the insect summoning on to Hinata, as this requires for Shino to engage in close quarters combat in order to work, and in such a case, Hinata would casually be able to pulverize Shino with a Hamura-powered 64 Twin Lion Palms barrage.
Bug Ball is not an issue for Hinata even in the slightest. The only opponent Shino ever used this on was Obito, who stood still as he was fooling around with the Konoha Squad. In Hinata’s case, she could easily out run these insects and head straight for Shino and/or she could blow them away with chakra, or lastly, she could just sit there and let them absorb her chakra until they are full. Hinata will not die from this technique, as Hinata was shown to be able to jump-start Naruto’s KCM using her Rikudo Chakra after he had run low on chakra, indicating her chakra levels are now close to bijuu level.
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im sure her gentle fist will be enough to deal with the 2 headed wolf of kiba.
Depends on whether Kiba could make it into that form on time. But suppose if he did, Hinata would still be able to react and attack accordingly. Hinata was able to react to the Juubi's hand, which blitz'd Kurama and Gyuki in a weaker form, and send it flying and crashing w/ her Air Palm. So her replicating a similar feat if Kiba were to charge at her w/ Fang over fang in this form isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
Can Akamaru even fight any more? Lol
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a high class technique which is enough to kill the likes of kakashi as said by zabuza himself. im sure she will gentle fist haku who is inside the ice and insanely fast Lol
Didn't Initial Kyuubi mode Naruto blitz him? Please, is it really hard for you to understand that that moment was relative to the speed levels of the time? Lol Hinata was able to keep up w/ Neji's speed in the chunnin exams, and we saw how Neji was somewhat able to keep up w/ Initial Kyuubi mode Naruto's Speed in their fight. Add in the fact that Hinata has gotten faster throughout the years, has learned 64 palms, which requires sheer speed, & the fact that she posses Rikudo chakra [which increases her speed and power] all support the argument that Hinata is faster than Haku.
Are those Ice mirrors not made of chakra? Sure, a few Air palms, and the whole thing is gone, as there is no way such weak mirrors are surviving against a chakra-destroying attack that blasted the Juubi's hand away.
of course she can beat temari neg diff right? her twin lions or gentle fist will be enough to tank this right? yea no Lol
If the distance is close, Hinata could out speed Temari and close the gap, allowing for her to attack w/ her gentle fist techniques. If not, Temari has the upper hand and would be the winner in all likelihood.
and this:
tenten who by now has the sage tools(even without them) she would neg iff hinata... no way she gonna doghe tentens weapon. hinata doesnt even have kaiten. rofl
Which drain her chakra in 1/2 a second. What would they do for her? even the Banaa fans's flames would be absorbed by Twin Lion Fists.
Tenten has no feats that would support your bizarre claim of Hinata not being able to dodge her weapons, especially when all of her weapons are shot out of a scroll, meaning as soon as Hinata sees the scroll coming out, she'd know what Tenten is planning, and prepare to dodge or counter. Please support your arguments with actual facts next time
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i guess she can take a puppet master as well right? especially some1 like kankuro. she will just gentle fist his puppets Lol
Please elaborate on how Kankuro could beat Hinata. Because none of his puppets will be staying intact if Air Palm is used on them, as we've seen how easy it is for puppets to break apart and we've seen the destuctive power of Hinata's Air Palm. Puppeteers have been said to be awful in taijutsu, and that already puts Kankuro at a disadvantage against Hinata. With her Byakugan she would also be able to see and know what Kankuto's puppets can do and what they are going to do, another disadvantage for Kankuro, as he depends on surprise to win his fights. Moreover, the chakra strings could easily be destroyed through the properties of gentle fist. If Hinata can simply close the distance and get within range, she can easily out match Kankuro in taijutsu.
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some1 with a mind as weak as hinata has no chance of breaking out of inos mind body jutsu U_U hell she could even control the gold silber brothers
Ino doesn’t even specialize in fighting, much less fighting a Hyuga such a Hinata.
Ino literally has no offensive jutsu that can be spoken of, so claiming she could beat Hinata honestly is ludicrous, as Hinata could no doubt be able to sense when Ino is getting ready for a mind transfer jutsu, and seeing as it’s a linear attack, would be able to easily avoid it, which would leave said Yamanaka wide open for an attack.
Not to mention Shikamaru has already told Ino that her mind transfer won’t work without his Shadow binding.
As for your claim of Hinata having a weak mind .... Well, we both know very well that such a statement couldn't be further from the truth Lol
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so let me get this straight... you seriously think the guy that almost defeated part 1 neji(who is still >>>>>shippuuden hinata) would be beaten by hinata? XD her gentle fist is even useless against him. she doesnt have kaiten as well. she will be NEGGED. Lol and you dare to call me biased rofl you are both HILARIOUS and sad XD
As Neji demonstrated, the webs can easy be destroyed by using Gentle Fist to insert chakra into them, and in turn, destroy them. Gentle Fist, Twin Lion Fists, or One blow Body could all work in Hinata’s favor in getting rid of these webs.
The Cursed Seal increases Kidomaru’s stats by a lot, but aside from that, they do not grant any other power up. And they would not provide much of a threat to Hinata, as Hinata herself has her stats boosted by her Hamura chakra. With that in mind, Curse seal could also be countered through the closing of chakra points, as Neji was able to prevent Kidomaru from accessing the powers of his curse seal by doing just that.
Despite having 4 extra arms, they do not see him to be of any use for Kidomaru, as his Taijutsu is extremely poor. Kidomaru himself has even admitted that he would be unable to fight against someone in close combat if they use Gentle Fist. In which case, Hinata would easily be able to land her 64 Twin Lion palms combo on him with relative ease.
This Spider summoning is not very durable, as Neji was able to explode it with a simple Gentle Fist. As such, it would be possible for Hinata to destroy such a creature with an Air Palm, as her Air Palm has shown to have enough fire power to send the Juubi’s hand flying.
Kidomaru used Golden Skin to keep his body and chakra network safe from Neji’s 64 Palms attack. However, Neji, with his basic 64 Palms attack, was able to heavily damage this layer of skin, as it was shown falling apart afterwards. Hinata, with a Rikudo-chakra enhanced 64 palms infused with the destructive power of Twin Lion Fists, should find absolutely no problem what so ever penetrating the Golden Skin and continuing on to do excess damage to Kidomaru’s body.
As for arrows and daggers, These things will not even be factored into a fight in such a case. Kidomaru was only ever able to prepare these traps for Neji due to the fact that he moved outside of Neji’s field of vision while he was being distracted by the Spider Summoning [which Hinata could one shot with air Palm in mere seconds] so that Neji would be unable to see and chase after him. Neji’s field of vision back then was 50 M, Hinata’s current is 10 KM. So unless Kidomaru is planning on running 10 KM away and shooting tiny ass daggers from that distance, as I said in the beginning, these daggers and arrows of his will not factor into a fight between them.
Even if Kidmaru tries to use such things at a close distance, Hinata will easily be able to repel them with Air Palm, just as she did to the Wooden Spike and the Juubi’s arm, in a fashion similar to what Neji did with One Blow Body, and proceed to use 64 Twin Lion Palms on him
And keep in mind that Kaiten was useless in that fight for the most part. Also keep in mind that Kidomaru was only able to fight the way he did because of Neji's short Byakugan vision, which Hinata surpasses him in.
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its pretty obvious hinatas gentle fist will be enough to deal with this
I see no reason as to why it wouldn't? Didn't Kiba do the EXACT same thing? Merging w/ Hinata would only lead to her being able to effortlessly close their chakra points due to them being close to her. Then it's Game over. Do they have any other way to win other than that?
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cause im sure her gentle fist will have any effect on them too.
You're assuming Tayuya would have enough time to play her flute and summon those things on time. You're also assuming those things pose an actual threat when even a kid shikamaru, who had hardly any battle feats, was able to counter them. Even if she were to summon them, Hinata can avoid them w/ her flight abilities and kill all of them one by one through using Air Palm or Twin Lion Fists on them.
Also, what do you even mean by gentle fist not having any effect on them? Are you even aware that gentle fist can't be tanked? Lol
Are you even debating at this point, or are you just randomly bringing in character jutsus and asking how Hinata counters? But Yes, I do think it would be possible for Hinata to counter this. Notice how Jirobo has lifted the rock with both arms, and has thus left himself WIDE open? Yeah, that's not exactly the smartest move to do against someone who can crush your heart w/ one attack. Especially from a distance.
Even if he were to throw the rock, do you really think Hinata wouldn't be able to tell what Jirobo is planning to do and get out of the way on time? FFS, simple running TOWARDS where Jirobo is standing after he throws the boulder would keep her safe from getting hit.
Or she could blast it away w/ Air palm just as she did w/ the Juubi's arm.
BTW, WTF did that boulder even accomplish?
when nejis gentle fist couldnt get through kidomarus spider armor you really think hinata is able to beat this? XD XD bro youre beyond HELP. it tookt the combined effort of naruto, lee and gaara and even then they kinda lost XD youre hilarious really
False point, Neji's regular 64 palms was in fact able to do damage to the Golden Skin of Kidomaru's. Hinata's basic 64 palms was shown to have enough fire power to leave scars on the chest of the Juubi clones highly-durable skin. Add in Lion Fists & Rikudo chakra to her 64 palms combo, and it's easy to see how her fire power would increase by a massive amount. Kimimaro's organs aren't tanking gentle fist, as it was already explained that gentle fist can't be tanked. And with how bad his health is, such attacks would have much more devastating effects on him then they would to other shinboi.
Keep in mind that Gentle Fist has the potential of killing with one or two hits.
Hinata is like the most overrated character in Naruto.
I believe she has said "Naruto-Kun" like every panel besides around 2-3 that she has gotten.
Then there's the fact she only has two feats.:|
Learning a passed down justu in her clan that requires great chakra control.
And, wait... Did I say two?
This seriously makes me wonder if you guys are joking when you say "Hinata vs Sakura is debatable."
But I do give the benefit of doubt considering Hinata can probably cut off Saruka's regeneration and super strength via chakra enhanced attacks, with her lion fists.
Do you people seriously believe this?
I'm no Saruka fapboy, but Saruka has shown speed that can keep up with Sasuke/Naruto only lagging behind barely, if you think that's slow keep in mind these two keep up with Madara's speed, which remotely kept up with 8th Gated Gai's speed.
And well attack power that's pretty much crushing anything.
Manga fact if you have your chakra sealed off you can’t used it unless you have a tailed beast in you to open your chakra points Naruto VS Neji establish that fact in the chuning exams. Also Naruto with His Wind Rasenshuriken establish that to against an Akauski member when He severed all chakra connections on a microscopic level that Tsunade said can’t be repaired.
