-sigh- If your gonna question the intelligence of Tobi and Hashi that way.. Then same can be said for Minato and Hiruzen..
Hiruzen allowed the leaf to crumble.. he didn't kill oro.. What the hell was he doing when Danzo was planning the genocide.. He knew Danzo was a bad dude... But he supported Danzo.. how was he smart?
Why didn't minato just tell the toad who was really behind the attack? why didn't he?
Smart one. If you can't match a specific power yourself.. no matter how intelligent you are you'll still be weaker.
STRONGEST is about POWER...
Difference between "STRONGER" and special.. Hashirama's chakra is the strongest. And it hasn't been stated even once their mokuton is the same... lmao.
wait when did i question hashi though? the leaf crumbled under hiruzen?(as a kage i think hiruzen has the most successful term no?) and how would hiruzen know of danzos treachery isnt danzos whole charactor about living in shadows?
what about minato?
dude your arguments just prove that you have no arguments, so im going to ignore them, actually i may possibly even put it in my sig so i might not totally ignore them if that makes you feel better.
EDIT: hiruzen didnt kill oro because he was soft, ill give you that, still doesnt make him weak.(maybe a little)
"Smart one. If you can't match a specific power yourself.. no matter how intelligent you are you'll still be weaker.
STRONGEST is about POWER... "
k well this tells me that if you were a shinobi, you would undoubtedly end up like madara obito "stupid sasuke"(after itachi dies but before he meets itachi again) or possibly nagato. if all you value is power your will miss the big picture and fail, as my boy itachi taught me. i mean everything has a weakness and in a fight you need to use your strength to exploit your opponents weakness, thats why a true martial artist is confident against any opponent, because any one can knock someone out but not everyone can see the knock out coming. when you become strong you will think there is no one who can touch you because you are the strongest, and in that scenario, guaranteed you will get touched.
Obito can take him out... S/T is an absolute defense against physical attacks and Hashi hasn't shown any sealing jutsu or genjutsu outside Bringer of darkness which is totally useless against someone who has sharingan
i dont rate obito compared to the top shinobi, kamui is not absolute, actually everyone of his opponents has landed a hit on him.(i made a whole long ass thread why i dont think obito is top class) Also just because hashi hasn't SHOWN anything yet, doesn't mean he doesn't have anything, and in a fight the element of surprise is pretty valuable.
and actually i think madara showed hashis flower world jutsu, which put the 5 kage to sleep, i think that would be effective if used properly.
EDIT: but i guess obito CAN take him out